Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] Tyler Bertuzzi re-signs with the Red Wings (1 year, $3.5M) - Arbitration Award

[Michoulicious]

Talk about damaging relationship with a key player to save 200 k. Not sure I get it from Detroit, to be honest.

 

[Tetsuo]

If Bert is out it's because he doesn't want to be there, not because Detroit doesn't want him. And there's no indicators of that.

He likely went to arbitration because he got devalued due to corona killing the cap. It's a good deal for both sides. Detroit has to pay less money this year, Bert gets another year to prove his worth, and likely has more negotiating power next year.

Nearly all RFAs that go to arbitration leave within a year. Wouldn't shock me if it Bert follows the trend. This deal is a pretty good dip below market value for a player of Bert's production according to EvolvingHockey, as the AAV his team was after is pretty reasonable all things considered.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Talk about damaging relationship with a key player to save 200 k. Not sure I get it from Detroit, to be honest.

Bert's ask was $4.25M, and I seriously doubt it hurts the relationship.

Players and teams both understand that corona has seriously f***ed things up. If anything, it buys Tyler a year to have a better season and for the league to recover.

 

[Ishad]

Nearly all RFAs that go to arbitration leave within a year.

[Citation Needed]

 

[Pia8988]

Bert's ask was $4.25M, and I seriously doubt it hurts the relationship.

Players and teams both understand that corona has seriously f***ed things up. If anything, it buys Tyler a year to have a better season and for the league to recover.

league is flat next year as well.

 

[nbwingsfan]

One Loui Eriksson coming right up

Will gladly take a couple of your 1st round picks

 

[Henkka]

Its a short buyout period that opens... it opens after the arbitration... like a couple days later

Frans Nielsen, anyone?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

league is flat next year as well.

More contracts expire. More teams signing players for less. More money. We'll also know what the new US TV Deal will be by then.

In Detroit's scenario, in particular, Marc Staal ($3.2M) is gone. Filppula ($3M) is gone. Helm ($3M) is gone. Weiss' buyout ($1.66M) is gone. Those guys are likely replaced by ELC players.

That's about $8M - $9M in savings alone. Doesn't factor in if they also replace Nemeth or Glendening with ELCs.

 

[Henkka]

league is flat next year as well.

Short deal gives a better chance for Bertuzzi to prove himself, than the struggling season in a "League-worst-for-while" Team season.

It was not fair (for any Detroit player) to negoatiate a possible career contract after that mess of a season.

They could still be dead last, but not as abysmal as they were. So much pure dead weight is gone.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Seems a very unnecessary step to take when said young player deserved his asking price. 1 year deal. I wouldn’t have risked any potential bad blood like this.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Bert's ask was $4.25M, and I seriously doubt it hurts the relationship.

Players and teams both understand that corona has seriously f***ed things up. If anything, it buys Tyler a year to have a better season and for the league to recover.

The league is flat cap next season already. There’s no upside to this for the player. I have no horse in this race but if this comes back to bite the club I’d be really upset if I was part of the fanbase

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The league is flat cap next season already. There’s no upside to this for the player. I have no horse in this race but if this comes back to bite the club I’d be really upset if I was part of the fanbase

Addressed this just above. #58.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Frans Nielsen, anyone?

I don't see Detroit doing it.

I'd have to look up the rules, but based on the buyout calculator, it looks like the buyouts only relieve the team of player salary and not their signing bonuses. So even if they bought him out, they'd only save $1.3M on the $8M he's owed. As opposed to Abdelkader, where they saved $3.2M. Yzerman more or less said that Abdelkader's buyout was purely a money move.

 

[Michoulicious]

Bert's ask was $4.25M, and I seriously doubt it hurts the relationship.

Players and teams both understand that corona has seriously f***ed things up. If anything, it buys Tyler a year to have a better season and for the league to recover.

Arbitration hearings are no fun. It does hurt relationships.

Just pay the man.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Arbitration hearings are no fun. It does hurt relationships.

Just pay the man.

Just pay the man is a concept that ends with you having a bunch of overpaid players.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The league is flat cap next season already. There’s no upside to this for the player. I have no horse in this race but if this comes back to bite the club I’d be really upset if I was part of the fanbase

Detroit alone is gaining like $9M in cap space next season with no one important to re-sign.

The Wings were a dumpster fire and its very likely Bert has an even better season next year now that we have a semblance of an NHL hockey team now.

He likely gets an even bigger contract next season.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Arbitration hearings are no fun. It does hurt relationships.

Just pay the man.

Dubas, is that you?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Dubas, is that you?

Because Dubas avoided arbitration with Mikheyev, you think he would come on the board and piss and moan about Bert going to arbitration?

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Addressed this just above. #58.

I suggest referring to previous posts by "time posted" rather than "#" as the number changes if posts are deleted.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Because Dubas avoided arbitration with Mikheyev, you think he would come on the board and piss and moan about Bert going to arbitration?

"Just pay the man" has seemingly been his life motto

 

[Leaf Fans]

"Just pay the man" has seemingly been his life motto

No, deciding not to go to arbitration is a normal thing in the NHL. Of course Dubas has to pay his players like all GM and all employers generally.

 

[cheesymc]

Hope it really created bad blood and a bigger chance he gets traded (to my team haha).

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Talk about damaging relationship with a key player to save 200 k. Not sure I get it from Detroit, to be honest.

Bertuzzi filed for arb. What are you on about? This wasn't Detroit's call to go before the arbitrator. If you're Bertuzzi and you think the arbitrator is going to give you closer to 4M, why would you settle for 3.5M from the team?

This is a regular negotiation event... and let's be honest, I don't think Tyler Bertuzzi was in the room for this. Pretty certain his agent fielded this. Damaging the relationship isn't seeing through an arbitration case. It would be cutting his minutes or not putting him in the best place to succeed. Tyler's uncle played here. He's played here a couple years. He knows what Detroit and Yzerman are about.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Hope it really created bad blood and a bigger chance he gets traded (to my team haha).

At least you are an honest man.

But yeah, I don't foresee any possible bad blood from this. Bertuzzi thought he had a strong arbitration case for 4M. The contract negotiations probably made it clear to him that wasn't going to happen unless it was eating a couple years of UFA in the COVID world. So he figured his comparables could carry the day and get him that now. Based on the result, they couldn't.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

No, deciding not to go to arbitration is a normal thing in the NHL. Of course Dubas has to pay his players like all GM and all employers generally.

Also... going to arbitration is a normal thing in the NHL. So I don't understand the litany of "OMG TYLER BERTUZZI HATES THE WINGS NOW BECAUSE THEY WENT TO ARBITRATION ooooohhhh spooky"

I would be willing to bet a decent sum of money that Tyler wasn't even in the room for it. He probably worked with his agent and his agent said this is your best way to maybe get a 4M contract this year. This is the way you have a chance at the most money.