Red Wings trade Datsyuk's contract to fall back in ghe draft and miss Chychrun, Fabro and Stanley to get Cholowski and use that cap space to sign Frans Nielsen. Thank you Ken Fn Holland.
Confirmed Buy-Out [DET] Frans Nielsen
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golffuul
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Classic Kenny. He was too used to being surprised by Hakan's picks and being able to buy whatever Free Agents he wanted. I remember he made the promise that he was going to retire when Lidstrom did. Poor guy should have.
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And he got Hronek with that extra pick, when he trades down and "misses Chychrun for Cholowski". Also missing Fabbro or Stanley is very questionable miss, if you get Hronek with that deal.
Better story to be told without that.
I’d rather have Chychrun than both Hronem and Cholowski
Such BS. More Kenny brainwashing of the fans. The old trade back and hope. If you can't be good be lucky. Hronek was luck. If they thought he was so good they would have taken him with one of their first two picks. They still could have taken him and Chychrun. I'd prefer my team rely on actual scouting than luck. Glad you enjoyed that Nielsen contract too.
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The sad thing is, I remember an interview with him from the late 2000s where he talked about copying the Patriots model and he said "pay to keep your star players, don't overpay for your role players and be prepared to let them walk"
Alas he forgot this - or more likely ownership forced his hand with their desire to keep the playoff streak going
Looks more like Yzer doing him a solid rather than playing on the fourth line or in the press box.
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OgeeOgelthorpe
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Afredsson actually looked pretty good in his time with the Wings. It just happened in a season when Zetterberg was injured for half of it. It's too bad we didn't get him until his final season in the league.
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Yeah...was a bad year for that. He also kind of started off well and then kind of disappeared. I just expected him to be able to carry a line a bit better than he did. And at least his was just a 1-year UFA deal and not like some of the other deals.
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I mean, he was pretty old. And his production tapered off around the same time that Zetterberg was injured.
I didnt mind the trade back strategy so much when the Wings we a deep, contending team and they just wanted/ needed to get one player out of the draft as Holland put it. I'll ignore that strategy also lead to draft decisions like Sheehan over Kuznetsov for now. But by this time the team and prospect pipeline were pretty dry of high end talent now that the 2011 draft was officially a giant bust. The team needed to have QUALITY player in the draft to start rebuilding. They needed to use their scouts for What They pay them to do, evaluate the talent and take the best player available. If the scouts thought Chychrun, Fabro, Stanley and Cholo were all about the same then fire every single scout you have.
It was time to start the rebuild not hang on by your finger tips.
golffuul
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Those Isles teams he was on during the first part of his career were really bad teams. They didn’t start making playoffs towards the end of his tenure there lol.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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With the Frans Nielsen buyout, I wonder if Yzerman has a deal in place for either Eric Staal or Bobby Ryan on a one year deal. Could possibly see either one happening.
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I'm not a Wings fan but I think taking the stance of continuing the playoff streak as justifiable.
The particular moves he made, however, are not justifiable. And it was pretty clear then and increasingly clear now in Edmonton that he is not capable of being a GM in the modern salary cap era.
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The problem I had with the entire thing was, he did this mess. Signed people trying to hang on. And then in the last couple years of Lidstrom/First year of the new stadium. He did NOTHING. It was just baffling.
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Your math isn't quite right
Frans got a $1.5M signing bonus on July 1st / this year's covid version of July 1st (not sure if those dates changed?) so he was only owed $1.5M for the duration of the season.
A buyout for a player of Nielsen's age necessitates the player receive 2/3 of the remaining salary, so he will receive $1M of the remaining $1.5M he was contractually signed up for.
At this juncture, Nielsen can either PTO/ sign an NHL minimum contract if any club wants him, or he can go back to Europe (read: closer to home.) All of these situations likely mean he will make more than $500k, and potentially if he is in Europe he could actually move the needle in a game, depending on which league he is playing in.
It might not be some sort of humanitarian act done by Yzerman, but it probably works out better for Frans Nielsen overall.
ManwithNoIdentity
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Really want Bobby Ryan back, haven’t heard a peep out of him or his camp so I’m seriously wondering if he’s pondering retirement
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Number1RedWingsFan52
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Same here, I guess retirement could be a possibility. Pretty sure Filppula is.
FissionFire
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Why though? Ryan started out great but his production fell off a cliff the final 3/4 of the season. He has 4 goals in the first 3 games, and 3 goals in the last 30 games. He was not good for us at all.
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