NFL: Deshaun Watson unhappy with Texans and has asked for a trade

[Blitzkrug]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans sold him a fake bill of goods with that extension.

They already straight up lied to him once when they said he'd have a say in hires when he didn't.

I don't blame Watson. If the Texans are dumb enough to hand control over to a f***ing preacher then players have every right to ask out. JJ Watt was the heart of that franchise and is like the ideal leader of a team and even he's fed up.

 

[TheAngryHank]

The key is what would be an acceptable return?

Not only that it must be a return from a team that Watson approves.
Its ugly from every direction , He signed his deal so play it out or retire.Unless someone ponys up something crazy but I dont see it.

 

[Blitzkrug]

I strongly dislike the "he signed the deal so now he's stuck here forever" logic. Sometime shit changes and the place you thought would be fine to spend your career ends up being a shithole.

The Texans could easily fix this if they fired their jackass preacher/GM but they choose not to. Therefore, Watson has a right to ask out.

 

[Halladay]

I strongly dislike the "he signed the deal so now he's stuck here forever" logic. Sometime shit changes and the place you thought would be fine to spend your career ends up being a shithole.

The Texans could easily fix this if they fired their jackass preacher/GM but they choose not to. Therefore, Watson has a right to ask out.

Sure, I agree with you but the Texans also just cant give him away because he wants to go.

 

[The Burdened]

I strongly dislike the "he signed the deal so now he's stuck here forever" logic. Sometime shit changes and the place you thought would be fine to spend your career ends up being a shithole.

The Texans could easily fix this if they fired their jackass preacher/GM but they choose not to. Therefore, Watson has a right to ask out.

Absolutely 100% it's his right.
and the Houston Texans have the right to decline his trade request. They are under no obligation.

He has no leverage. Let him retire and pay back millions.
They were trash with him and will be trash without him

 

[c9777666]

IT'S HAPPENING

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I strongly dislike the "he signed the deal so now he's stuck here forever" logic. Sometime shit changes and the place you thought would be fine to spend your career ends up being a shithole.

The Texans could easily fix this if they fired their jackass preacher/GM but they choose not to. Therefore, Watson has a right to ask out.

I strongly dislike a player asking for trade and then demanding team honor a NTC list

If you demand trade you should not have right to dictate what team your sent to

If I was Texans ownership I would advise him that we were unable to meet a trade request to any of his desired locations and that until he expands list we cant move forward with trade talks

 

[Blitzkrug]

This organization is screwwwwwwwwed.

 

[c9777666]

Are we sure DeShaun Watson is THAT good?

 

[Voight]

Are we sure DeShaun Watson is THAT good?

uh yes..... arguably the best young QB after Mahomes

 

[Halladay]

Apparently Cal McNair won't be at the press conference today. Clown organization.

 

[StreetHawk]

I strongly dislike a player asking for trade and then demanding team honor a NTC list

If you demand trade you should not have right to dictate what team your sent to

If I was Texans ownership I would advise him that we were unable to meet a trade request to any of his desired locations and that until he expands list we cant move forward with trade talks

There’s the business side of things in that once he signed that deal and with the guaranteed money he signed for it is extremely difficult to move that contract for the team given the amount of dead cap. Ryan, Wentz, Goff, Rodgers and co are in the same boat for guys who have been rumoured to maybe be moved.

 

[c9777666]

How are you capable of being THAT awful of a poster?

for a guy who was 4-12, you’d think he had a 2018 Mahomes type season based on the gushing

 

[kanuck87]

Are we sure DeShaun Watson is THAT good?

How good do you think he is?

 

[Blitzkrug]

They also said they "have a plan and clear vision for watson" in the press conference and it starts with honest and open communication.

That might be just the most tonedeaf thing i've heard in a long time given a good part of this was started by not properly communicating with Watson as he found out about organizational moves over social media...

 

[93LEAFS]

There is no winning this as the Texans. How successfully do you think your team is going to be if the QB doesn't show up to learn the new offensive system until he gets docked in actual game checks (I know he gets fined for missing training camp)? What type of tone does that set for your organization? If you are trading him, don't you want to move on when you know his value is high, and you know the actual draft picks you are getting slot wise? Honestly. Watson could just take the training camp fines, show up a day before the season, and say I don't know the terminology or any of the playbook.

Feel bad for Texans fans, but the organization so horribly botched this it is ridiculous.

 

[HisIceness]

As Urinatingtree put it in his "Houston, the city that sold their soul", the succubus still tortures the local sports fans for that tainted World Series title.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

They also said they "have a plan and clear vision for watson" in the press conference and it starts with honest and open communication.

That might be just the most tonedeaf thing i've heard in a long time given a good part of this was started by not properly communicating with Watson as he found out about organizational moves over social media...

Posturing

 

[StreetHawk]

There is no winning this as the Texans. How successfully do you think your team is going to be if the QB doesn't show up to learn the new offensive system until he gets docked in actual game checks (I know he gets fined for missing training camp)? What type of tone does that set for your organization? If you are trading him, don't you want to move on when you know his value is high, and you know the actual draft picks you are getting slot wise? Honestly. Watson could just take the training camp fines, show up a day before the season, and say I don't know the terminology or any of the playbook.

Feel bad for Texans fans, but the organization so horribly botched this it is ridiculous.

They don’t want to appear weak in their position. They need to extract maximum value for Watson plus they will get hit with a dead cap charge so they may also want Watson and the other team to work out a situation where Watson returns some of his signing bonus and the acquiring team then gives him that SB back to make Watson whole and thus lessen Houston’s dead cap charge.

 

[Troy McClure]

I strongly dislike a player asking for trade and then demanding team honor a NTC list

If you demand trade you should not have right to dictate what team your sent to

If I was Texans ownership I would advise him that we were unable to meet a trade request to any of his desired locations and that until he expands list we cant move forward with trade talks

I think we don't know enough about where it is Watson would waive his no trade clause to go to say whether it matters at all.

 

[StreetHawk]

I think we don't know enough about where it is Watson would waive his no trade clause to go to say whether it matters at all.

NFL trades are also about cap hits and dead money. Fortunately, for Houston, his dead cap for 2021 to them is only $5.6 million, which eases the burden on them. At the end of the day, Houston needs a list of 3-5 teams that he will accept a trade to. Both sides have to be reasonable in order to complete a trade.

Watson can't come to them and say Miami or bust for example. And Houston, I wouldn't just look at draft picks, I'd eye a player who has a year or two left on their rookie contract, in addition to a couple of first round picks.

 

[Troy McClure]

I strongly dislike the "he signed the deal so now he's stuck here forever" logic. Sometime shit changes and the place you thought would be fine to spend your career ends up being a shithole.

The Texans could easily fix this if they fired their jackass preacher/GM but they choose not to. Therefore, Watson has a right to ask out.

I agree. There's always been a very strong anti-player sentiment among fans who are jealous of how much players make, but the old "honor your agreement" stuff is a strange stance to take here when Texans ownership clearly isn't holding up its end of the agreement.

The owner lied to Watson about how the team would be run. Whether it is smart to bring your young QB into GM search discussions is one thing, but failing to honor your promise to that QB about involving him in the GM search is going to piss him off. As will lying to that QB about the role a shady motivational preacher will have in running the team. Watson is right to want out. Texans ownership didn't honor their agreement with Watson, so he has every reason to want out.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Apparently Cal McNair won't be at the press conference today. Clown organization.

The Texans and Eagles are the laughing stocks of the league. Both franchises are an absolute mess.

 

[DoyleG]

Possibility of the Texans asking price.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I could see a team paying price in picks but two young starting defenders seems too much