The thing about our current cap situation that tends to be ignored mostly by the ani-Benning crowd is how we have almost every contract off the books the next 2 seasons. I won't derail this thread more by going through every contract that will be replaced internally but just for example, Pearson, Sutter, Edler, Beagle etc most likely get replaced within.Canucks are up against the salary cap. We are talking about 20% escrow for next season. No home town discount coming from anyone. The typical 10% is now out the window from the past couple of years.
need to find some cap savings somewhere.
$20 mill in Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, Sven, Lu recapture and Spooner buyout.
if there is cap savings to be found that’s one of the places. Better chance of Demko playing well then finding a $1.5 mill Dman to take over for Tanev as an example.
While it's true he isn't a star yet this was his rookie season and up until Marky was injured his numbers were simalir to to Marky's. I've always been a Marky guy and the last 10 games with Demko were pretty tough to watch, but the kid never once got rattled or lost his confidence. All young goalies need that experience to get better and the last game against the Isles he was fantastic. Keep in mind the Nucks play a style that pushes the game and often causes a lot of high danger chances against them.I wouldn’t classify Demko as one of the Canucks stars. He’s a backup with good numbers in the minors but meh numbers in the big show. He wouldn’t bring much in a trade and he wouldn’t bring any cap savings
I keep hearing about this cap crunch we're in yet as of now we haven't lost a single player of our own and we're able to add TT Myers and Ferland. If you look at what comes off the books (70mill) in the next 3 seasons, were in a pretty damn good situation considering guys like Podz, Hog lind, Rathbone, Woo, Joulevi will most likely be replacing them.I agree, especially in light of the $20 mill in bad contracts that they have on the books. Plus they owe big extensions to Hughes and Petey in a year's time when Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, Luongo cap hits are still on the books for another $15 million.
A bunch of other teams need to unload contracts. After moving Madden and a 2nd, along with a 1st and 3rd for Miller, the Canucks can't afford to move more draft picks.
And I believe that you stand a much better chance of getting close Markstrom level production from Demko than bringing in another low cost Dman like Benn to replace Tanev.
In light of the economic realities, players know that what they sign for is only going to be 80% of what they end up with before taxes. $5 mill becomes $4 million, not $4.5 mill based on prior couple of year's escrow amounts.
I keep hearing about this cap crunch we're in yet as of now we haven't lost a single player of our own and we're able to add TT Myers and Ferland. If you look at what comes off the books (70mill) in the next 3 seasons, were in a pretty damn good situation considering guys like Podz, Hog lind, Rathbone, Woo, Joulevi will most likely be replacing them.
As for this season, if Benning wants to resign Tanev, Marky and TT, he will need about 8-9 million on top of the 17 mill we will already have. LE I'm confident will be gone, (6mill) letting Stech, Motte and Fanta walk is another 4 mill. Butter if he cant be traded can be bought out saving 3 mill.
Finally Baer and his 3.5 mill will be terminated its already rumoured hes going to Europe. So in those scenarios thats almost 20 million extra. So finding the extra money really isn't that
Why is Loui Erikson (magically) gone?
IMO, to dump Loui will cost Demko as sweetener.
He very well could develop into a legit starter. I was just commenting on the topic of the thread. Which was the Canucks are considering moving one of their stars. Demko isn’t one of them yet.While it's true he isn't a star yet this was his rookie season and up until Marky was injured his numbers were simalir to to Marky's. I've always been a Marky guy and the last 10 games with Demko were pretty tough to watch, but the kid never once got rattled or lost his confidence. All young goalies need that experience to get better and the last game against the Isles he was fantastic. Keep in mind the Nucks play a style that pushes the game and often causes a lot of high danger chances against them.
Having a guy like Marky who has a 940 save% in games over 40 shots is why they could get away with it. Demko is similar but he is prone to losing focus, I think he breaks out next year and a decision can be made at the trade deadline.
When they have Dipietro in the system who will be 22 when seattle enters the NHL?I'm curious. Are people forgetting Vancouver can trade a minor asset to Seattle to keep them from picking Demko, or do they not think he's worth it?
You are banking on too much. Sutter, a buyout leaves them with a cap hit of $2 mill next season and another million the year afterwards. He would count $4.3 mill against the cap so if you are eating $2 mill in a buyout plus his replacement would make close to $1 mill the net savings on him is likely $1.3 mill against the cap next season. If you buyout roster players, the net savings needs to include replacement cost.I keep hearing about this cap crunch we're in yet as of now we haven't lost a single player of our own and we're able to add TT Myers and Ferland. If you look at what comes off the books (70mill) in the next 3 seasons, were in a pretty damn good situation considering guys like Podz, Hog lind, Rathbone, Woo, Joulevi will most likely be replacing them.
As for this season, if Benning wants to resign Tanev, Marky and TT, he will need about 8-9 million on top of the 17 mill we will already have. LE I'm confident will be gone, (6mill) letting Stech, Motte and Fanta walk is another 4 mill. Sutter if he cant be traded can be bought out saving 3 mill.
Finally Baer and his 3.5 mill will be terminated its already rumoured hes going to Europe. So in those scenarios thats almost 20 million extra, so finding the extra money really isn't as doom nd gloom.
A Thatcher Demko trade is inevitable before the expansion draft in my opinion.
If we're doing it closer to the draft itself, he will have played another season and I would hope we'd be out of cap troubles and be seeking a package of picks/prospects in return.
If we were to do it now, it'd be incredibly tricky as we'd need another backup, one that likely costs more than his low 1.05m.
So were adding cap while we desperately need to dump it.
Because of this, we'd need to attach a high salaried player along with, which diminishes his value.
If Grubauer, with a better established record, and Orpiks 5.5 mill buyout gets a 2nd, maybe drop a round.
I'd shoot for around a 3rd, if we attach Brandon Sutters 4.375 million.
But then we need a backup, and theres no decent UFA's.
So now were trading a 2nd for Linus Ullmark type and paying him 1 mill more than Demko.
We just traded a 2nd for a 3rd and 3 mill capspace. Thats the tricky were gonna have to deal with if someone wants Demko now.
Markstrom is not the answer in net. Never has been. He's a backup and he's 30. Canucks should commit to Demko at 24 and see if he can be the man in net.
He's been better and better since he came to Vancouver. Not sure what you're talking about. I just think that the Canucks are better off not paying big bucks for him and giving Demko a go. Maybe you sign a cheaper veteran backup for 1-2 years in the meantimeMarkstrom is not the answer in net. Never has been. He's a backup and he's 30. Canucks should commit to Demko at 24 and see if he can be the man in net.
I would only offer a 3rd.
Markstrom is the better goalie, so I could see why Vancouver fans would be looking at Demko's value.
Uh, the Sabres aren't trading their 25 year old starting goaltender...especially when they have nobody else ready for the job.A Thatcher Demko trade is inevitable before the expansion draft in my opinion.
If we're doing it closer to the draft itself, he will have played another season and I would hope we'd be out of cap troubles and be seeking a package of picks/prospects in return.
If we were to do it now, it'd be incredibly tricky as we'd need another backup, one that likely costs more than his low 1.05m.
So were adding cap while we desperately need to dump it.
Because of this, we'd need to attach a high salaried player along with, which diminishes his value.
If Grubauer, with a better established record, and Orpiks 5.5 mill buyout gets a 2nd, maybe drop a round.
I'd shoot for around a 3rd, if we attach Brandon Sutters 4.375 million.
But then we need a backup, and theres no decent UFA's.
So now were trading a 2nd for Linus Ullmark type and paying him 1 mill more than Demko.
We just traded a 2nd for a 3rd and 3 mill capspace. Thats the tricky were gonna have to deal with if someone wants Demko now.