Post-Game Talk: DD starts Danault in OT, we lose again

[Runner77]

Both times they've done it.. Danault has lost the draw.

What's the value of winning a draw in OT when possession changes hands so often?

 

[WeThreeKings]

What's the value of winning a draw in OT when possession changes hands so often?

None unless you think you're gonna score on your first possession with... BYron

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Man everyone not because you lose the faceoff OT mean you will lose OT. The puck shift multiple times. If we can't manage to breakout a 3v3 play or save a puck just to regain a possession just because we lost the faceoff is beyond dumb.

You should always send your best player out there. There is a reason why Winnipeg dont send d-man on OT because they all suck. Simple as that , they use the best stuff win or lose the faceoff.

 

[Runner77]

None unless you think you're gonna score on your first possession with... BYron

You can get the best of both worlds by using KK, who is now very good on draws and who is a player who can produce offence. How is that not the go-to solution?

 

[expy]

Danault isn't good at math. Passing it back to Price was best option instead of leaving Petry with three Jets ready to take off. LOL

It's not rocket science.... The Habs were even doing this back to last year or the year prior.

 

[WeThreeKings]

You can get the best of both worlds by using KK, who is now very good on draws and who is a player who can produce offence. How is that not the go-to solution?

Their go to solution includes a guy who can't even get claimed on Waivers.. I don't have an answer.

 

[Stive Morgan]

We had 9 OT losses in 71 games last season.

We have 8 in 29 games so far

So nearly 1/3 of our games are OT losses lmao

 

[sandysan]

Ok there...let's pretend that Byron and Danault are better options then carry on...

petry is clearly a good option if winnepeg is going to go with three forwards.

of those more " talented" which ones are as good as dano and byron defensively ? or, is iw we but up our not as good best against their much better best and hope ?

that's the new plan ? put out your best players regardless of context and hope?

 

[SirClintonPortis]

We see it often with other teams, I don't know why our players don't have the instinct of sending the puck back in our zone to Price which they can then line change and keep possession

Not compatible with the grinding philsophy of this team. Be smart like Rafalski? It's a one-way ticket OFF this team.

But slow pylons with puck over glass, icings, and fights where the player gets himself first? Sign them up long term.

 

[angusyoung]

Danault isn't good at math. Passing it back to Price was best option instead of leaving Petry with three Jets ready to take off. LOL

Why not? I don't see why they never do that.Price is good with passing and can handle a puck. Even way back when I played I'd do that if no options at times,surprised the shit out of the goalies at first

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

We had 9 OT losses in 71 games last season.

We have 8 in 29 games so far

So nearly 1/3 of our games are OT losses lmao

You don't like the fact we are in playoff because of an old outdated points system

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

petry is clearly a good option if winnepeg is going to go with three forwards.

of those more " talented" which ones are as good as dano and byron defensively ? or, is iw we but up our not as good best against their much better best and hope ?

that's the new plan ? put out your best players regardless of context and hope?

How about play to win like the other team and not worry about how good they are defensively like the other team and maybe we win some OT games like the other team

 

[angusyoung]

I think a distinction needs to be made in terms of this game vs. most games since DD has been named head coach.

Some posts are focusing on Byron and Danault having had no responsibility for the outcome of this game as if this somehow justifies their use in OT. Or even, how Danault having scored a goal in regular time, somehow now means that he should have been used in OT (maybe as a reward or on the theory that he's likely to score again).

This should be distinguished from general view suggested by several posts that defense-first players like Danault, should never be used in OT and how those deployed in OT should own scoring ability, good possession stats and speed -- with the coach favoring those players who possess all or most of these attributes.

That would be a rather paltry list though.

 

[swimmer77]

OT is so miserable now that for giggles and laughs I'd like to see them pull Price for an extra attacker when they get possession.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Every time we lose in OT it reminds me of John Carlson's golden goal against Canada at the 2010 WJC

If we don't score on our first chance, it's an odd-man rush coming back our way which usually goes in

 

[Runner77]

Their go to solution includes a guy who can't even get claimed on Waivers.. I don't have an answer.

That waiver allusion is not really founded since Byron is not being claimed on account of bloated contractual terms. If the guy was paid what he was worth on a short deal, he would have been claimed.

Regardless, I agree that his deployment in OT is sketch.

You can’t lose an OT without your best players having hit the ice.

 

[Runner77]

That would be a rather paltry list though.

Paltry relative to some other teams? Sure. But use your best early and often — if you’re going to win or lose, it makes much more sense for them to be involved in the outcome.

 

[angusyoung]

Paltry relative to some other teams? Sure. But use your best early and often — if you’re going to win or lose, it makes much more sense for them to be involved in the outcome.

Habs list would be paltry,not many that are fleet of foot with the ability to handle the puck effectively.

 

[Runner77]

Habs list would be paltry,not many that are fleet of foot with the ability to handle the puck effectively.

I don’t like their roster construction but it doesn’t change the fact that you can’t lose a game in OT without the Habs having deployed their best players.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

OT is so miserable now that for giggles and laughs I'd like to see them pull Price for an extra attacker when they get possession.

That would be amazing!!

 

[BLONG7]

I don’t like their roster construction but it doesn’t change the fact that you can’t lose a game in OT without the Habs having deployed their best players.

This..............!!!
Now, to get this across to Dom and Burrows!

 

[CHfan1]

OT is so miserable now that for giggles and laughs I'd like to see them pull Price for an extra attacker when they get possession.

That would be amazing!!

Unfortunately, as per the NHL rules, the Habs would lose the extra point if the other team scored into the empty net.

 

[Subban signed e5]

or dumb the puck behind the d

Pretty much anything but what he did lol, I know it will come off as sour grapes, but the 3V3 OT is hockey at its worst, its not even fun to watch, I much prefer the old method

 

[Simarino]

What's the value of winning a draw in OT when possession changes hands so often?

I really don't see what's the big deal with the opening draw, there's pretty no offense generated when the game is settled and everybody got his man in the D-zone.. I see this 3 on 3 OT more as a counter attacker game, that's when you can the get odd man rushes or breakaway, not by winning the opening faceoff.

 

[sandysan]

How about play to win like the other team and not worry about how good they are defensively like the other team and maybe we win some OT games like the other team

We DID play to win, we had control and had a grade A chance before winnepeg had meaningful possession.

What you are complaining about is that hellebyuk stopped a great tip by petry, rather than letting it in.