Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Markov never looked like the primary star, but everything went downhill when he wasn't there. He made everyone on his team better, he really was the general on the ice. His actual skills were very good, but he tended to think the game well enough that he didn't need to do much out of the ordinary. Every now and then he'd make an impressive move, or wire a shot when the time was right, and he could have done it more often, but he almost always chose the correct low risk play.

It's really hard to evaluate his ceiling because he was so very effective without having to push or take chances. I'm not sure he was top 5 or even top 10 in the league depending on how you categorize, but he was the one of the best #2 D.
Markov was easily a top 10 d most years. He's been erased from the conversation by not playing very many full seasons at his peak. Basically 3-4 years of what would have been his peak were lost to injury then the half lockout. A lot of d have that golden period between 29-33 years old where they finally managed to put together their skill and their experience without constant mistakes; and Markov missed damn near all of it. He still came back as a 1D. 08-09 was a glimpse of what to expect. A 60+ point dman who ate huge minutes and could handle any situation. Literally a Lidstrom lite. He never relied on having good team mates either like you could argue for neidermayer who produced less than Markov in better situations.
 

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Markov never looked like the primary star, but everything went downhill when he wasn't there. He made everyone on his team better, he really was the general on the ice. His actual skills were very good, but he tended to think the game well enough that he didn't need to do much out of the ordinary. Every now and then he'd make an impressive move, or wire a shot when the time was right, and he could have done it more often, but he almost always chose the correct low risk play.

It's really hard to evaluate his ceiling because he was so very effective without having to push or take chances. I'm not sure he was top 5 or even top 10 in the league depending on how you categorize, but he was the one of the best #2 D.
Markov was definitely a top 20ish dman in his prime. So he was either a "weak" number 1 or a very strong number 2. Considering he never tried to break the bank with his contracts he was a very valuable player to have.
 

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Markov was definitely a top 20ish dman in his prime. So he was either a "weak" number 1 or a very strong number 2. Considering he never tried to break the bank with his contracts he was a very valuable player to have.
In his prime he was top 10 easily. He didn't get the attention because he was not flashy, but he was oh so efficient.
 

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In his prime he was top 10 easily. He didn't get the attention because he was not flashy, but he was oh so efficient.
He truly never got the respect he deserved. I don't like how his career ended, he was a great player for this team for well over a decade. 990 games played...should have played 1000 in a Habs jersey. He was a top 10 D in this league, everyone who played with him looked like stars.
 

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Markov never looked like the primary star, but everything went downhill when he wasn't there. He made everyone on his team better, he really was the general on the ice. His actual skills were very good, but he tended to think the game well enough that he didn't need to do much out of the ordinary. Every now and then he'd make an impressive move, or wire a shot when the time was right, and he could have done it more often, but he almost always chose the correct low risk play.

It's really hard to evaluate his ceiling because he was so very effective without having to push or take chances. I'm not sure he was top 5 or even top 10 in the league depending on how you categorize, but he was the one of the best #2 D.
Of course he was very good or very efficient, without the flashy moves. I try to think outside the box and find what his real value among the league. I don't remember he was at the all star game, it was Koivu. I liked Koivu but I think Marky was a better player playing at his position. It's hard to evaluate. Top 5 is maybe too much, between top 5 and top 10 is okay for me.

To return with Rein, he may end up being one of the most efficient D to neutralise a opponent with the timing and the way he moves so quick. And other aspects of the game too, he can be a complete D for any situations except maybe a PP specialist.

edit : if we start a thread with other nhl teams/fans, they will bring their list of best underated D, so Marky will one of others, depending on the year, he was 15th to 20th at worst. He had few years of injury too. The list of habs fans or the list of entire league, ? ...
 
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In his prime he was top 10 easily. He didn't get the attention because he was not flashy, but he was oh so efficient.

He was playing 25 minutes a night against top lines, making partners like Komisarek look like good defenseman and getting guys like Souray/Streit paid by setting them up non-stop on the PP for one-timers.

Despite this, he hardly ever got any consideration for the Norris while Souray would get votes. It wasn't until like 2008/2009 that he finally got some consideration and finished 6th back to back years.

Easily one of the most under appreciated players in the league in the last couple of decades.
 

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He was playing 25 minutes a night against top lines, making partners like Komisarek look like good defenseman and getting guys like Souray/Streit paid by setting them up non-stop on the PP for one-timers.

Despite this, he hardly ever got any consideration for the Norris while Souray would get votes. It wasn't until like 2008/2009 that he finally got some consideration and finished 6th back to back years.

Easily one of the most under appreciated players in the league in the last couple of decades.
At this point what could the Habs do to honor him?
 
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He truly never got the respect he deserved. I don't like how his career ended, he was a great player for this team for well over a decade. 990 games played...should have played 1000 in a Habs jersey. He was a top 10 D in this league, everyone who played with him looked like stars.

The way Markov career ended is a black eye for the organization. Probably the only time i was ashamed of my team.
 

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Markov was so underappreciated league wide. Definitely a top 10 d-man.

As many mentioned, defensively, we was so efficient that it didn't look like he was doing much. He was so smart in his positioning and anticipation of the play.

A lot of pundits are as bad as the average fan in regards to rating defensemen... It requires a good understanding of the game to do so properly.

So instead, they only rely in raw stats, not unlike how the Selke is selected...
 

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At this point what could the Habs do to honor him?
I'd like to think he could have some sort of asst position with the team, much like what our other retired players used to do - like ambassadors who hang around the rink and meet fans etc.... Scouting in Russia? I'm not even sure where he lives.


yeah but can he score on short side? lol
 

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Are people less worried now ?

we'll see what next season brings as he needs time to adjust to the smaller ice. He's had some ups and downs but so far overall he's looked a good bit better then I thought he would. I know some at the time were saying he was going to go directly to the Habs when he came over and I said that sounded like a terrible idea so I'm really glad how they are handling him so far.
 

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Are people less worried now ?
Was never worried. People were saying he was playing bad but when I watched the games I didn't see what others did. He's playing how I thought he would. He will be on the Habs by December next year.
 
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we'll see what next season brings as he needs time to adjust to the smaller ice. He's had some ups and downs but so far overall he's looked a good bit better then I thought he would. I know some at the time were saying he was going to go directly to the Habs when he came over and I said that sounded like a terrible idea so I'm really glad how they are handling him so far.

I think he will be even better in the NHL too, the bad moments have been him running around a bit too much in the defensive zone because the team itself isn't very good at executing the man on man defense system. Often having to quickly identify one threat and go to another one in a vastly different position and the second one being the adjustment you're talking about, gets himself positioned too high in the neutral zone and is allowing a bank pass to create an opportunity behind him.
 

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