Rumor: David Pagnotta: Leafs exploring market for cost effective top 6 forward.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

On his latest article on TFP's website David Pagnotta mentions the Toronto Maple Leafs are are early in the process of checking the market for a cost effective top 6 forward.

I'm not sure what that means, does it mean cap hit wise? most top 6 forwards are paid decently that's why they are top 6 forwards so retention is probably required especially so early in the season.

Does it mean asset wise? Top 6 forwards can be had for a discounted price, Taylor Hall from Buffalo to Boston immediately comes to mind, but generally they come with decent asset cost.

There are 2 guy that could fit the bill here.

Kane and Garland and maybe even just Garland.

Kane won't cost assets because he's a free agent but we don't know what he wants in terms of money.

Garland is a guy we know Vancouver wants to move, we know Vancouver is willing to retain and Garland probably won't cost a ton.

Plus Doan for sure, and possibly Treliving would know him from their days in Arizona.

Personally I think a top 6 forward is the wrong area to look at, the Leafs are 4-2, in all 4 of their wins, they scored a minimum of 4 goals, goal scoring isn't an issue.

Their issue they can't get a save from Samsonov, I'm not sure how a top 6 forward helps Samsonov pull his head out of his ass.

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[JianYang]

I really think they need to somehow find a top pairing dman. Preferably a #1 although those don't grow on trees.

It's the most significant move that they can make to help elevate them from simply being regular season warriors.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I really think they need to somehow find a top pairing dman. Preferably a #1 although those don't grow on trees.

It's the most significant move that they can make to help elevate them from simply being regular season warriors.

I don't disagree I'm keeping an eye on Carolina Brett Pesce would be a great addition.

 

[Peasy]

Why look at forwards when their D looks like garbage lol

 

[Jumptheshark]

LOL

all clubs are looking for a cost affective FWD--high performance low cost

I thought the Leafs were already tight against the cap and spent their LTIR money?

 

[StickShift]

Cost effective forward to me means making $1,000,000 or less.

Turn someone else's trash into treasure. Think a retread like Bunting or Kase--or a veteran like Spezza or Simmonds.

 

[Al4tdsBundy]

I don't disagree I'm keeping an eye on Carolina Brett Pesce would be a great addition.

Pesce is injured. Expected to be out long term

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Why look at forwards when their D looks like garbage lol

I'm not blaming the defense for Samsonov having an 831 save%.

831 is NEVER a defense problem, 831 means you aren't making enough saves.

 

[General Fanager]

I really think they need to somehow find a top pairing dman. Preferably a #1 although those don't grow on trees.

It's the most significant move that they can make to help elevate them from simply being regular season warriors.

Unless one of the big 3 is on the table The Leafs dont have the assets to get one of those. Also strike Tavares for obvious reasons so it has to be Marner or Nylander.....

 

[bossram]

David Pagnotta is not a legit source. He just throws stuff out and once in a while he's randomly "right".

 

[phillipmike]

Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews for league minimum.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

On his latest article on TFP's website David Pagnotta mentions the Toronto Maple Leafs are are early in the process of checking the market for a cost effective top 6 forward.

I'm not sure what that means, does it mean cap hit wise? most top 6 forwards are paid decently that's why they are top 6 forwards so retention is probably required especially so early in the season.

Does it mean asset wise? Top 6 forwards can be had for a discounted price, Taylor Hall from Buffalo to Boston immediately comes to mind, but generally they come with decent asset cost.

There are 2 guy that could fit the bill here.

Kane and Garland and maybe even just Garland.

Kane won't cost assets because he's a free agent but we don't know what he wants in terms of money.

Garland is a guy we know Vancouver wants to move, we know Vancouver is willing to retain and Garland probably won't cost a ton.

Plus Doan for sure, and possibly Treliving would know him from their days in Arizona.

Personally I think a top 6 forward is the wrong area to look at, the Leafs are 4-2, in all 4 of their wins, they scored a minimum of 4 goals, goal scoring isn't an issue.

Their issue they can't get a save from Samsonov, I'm not sure how a top 6 forward helps Samsonov pull his head out of his ass.

What kind of forward? A ~one-dimensional scoring one, or a ~one-dimensional defensive one?

Also, why does TOR need another forward? I thought they were looking for defense?

 

[Oddbob]

On his latest article on TFP's website David Pagnotta mentions the Toronto Maple Leafs are are early in the process of checking the market for a cost effective top 6 forward.

I'm not sure what that means, does it mean cap hit wise? most top 6 forwards are paid decently that's why they are top 6 forwards so retention is probably required especially so early in the season.

Does it mean asset wise? Top 6 forwards can be had for a discounted price, Taylor Hall from Buffalo to Boston immediately comes to mind, but generally they come with decent asset cost.

There are 2 guy that could fit the bill here.

Kane and Garland and maybe even just Garland.

Kane won't cost assets because he's a free agent but we don't know what he wants in terms of money.

Garland is a guy we know Vancouver wants to move, we know Vancouver is willing to retain and Garland probably won't cost a ton.

Plus Doan for sure, and possibly Treliving would know him from their days in Arizona.

Personally I think a top 6 forward is the wrong area to look at, the Leafs are 4-2, in all 4 of their wins, they scored a minimum of 4 goals, goal scoring isn't an issue.

Their issue they can't get a save from Samsonov, I'm not sure how a top 6 forward helps Samsonov pull his head out of his ass.

Cost effective! You then mention 3 player who are not even close to cost effective, which means low cap hit/pay.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

David Pagnotta is not a legit source. He just throws stuff out and once in a while he's randomly "right".

Good point. He got like two things in a row correct and ever since then has been elevated as a source. I'm not so sure about him either.

 

[BCNate]

On his latest article on TFP's website David Pagnotta mentions the Toronto Maple Leafs are are early in the process of checking the market for a cost effective top 6 forward.

I'm not sure what that means, does it mean cap hit wise? most top 6 forwards are paid decently that's why they are top 6 forwards so retention is probably required especially so early in the season.

Does it mean asset wise? Top 6 forwards can be had for a discounted price, Taylor Hall from Buffalo to Boston immediately comes to mind, but generally they come with decent asset cost.

There are 2 guy that could fit the bill here.

Kane and Garland and maybe even just Garland.

Kane won't cost assets because he's a free agent but we don't know what he wants in terms of money.

Garland is a guy we know Vancouver wants to move, we know Vancouver is willing to retain and Garland probably won't cost a ton.

Plus Doan for sure, and possibly Treliving would know him from their days in Arizona.

Personally I think a top 6 forward is the wrong area to look at, the Leafs are 4-2, in all 4 of their wins, they scored a minimum of 4 goals, goal scoring isn't an issue.

Their issue they can't get a save from Samsonov, I'm not sure how a top 6 forward helps Samsonov pull his head out of his ass.

I think a third team would need to be involved in any Garland deal. The only reasons the Canucks are looking to deal him are to open up cap space, or re allocate resources from the wing to D. The Leafs can't really offer either of those outcomes

 

[capfit9]

 

[gdsmack267]

Heard Jeff Carter is great at faceoffs

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Cost effective! You then mention 3 player who are not even close to cost effective, which means low cap hit/pay.

That's my point cost effective and top 6 forward don't usually go together that's why they are top 6 forwards.

Garland could become a cost effective top 6 forward depending on how much Vancouver ends up retaining.

 

[Breakers]

I've seen enough


they're clearly targeting kerfoot in arizona

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Cost effective forward to me means making $1,000,000 or less.

Turn someone else's trash into treasure. Think a retread like Bunting or Kase--or a veteran like Spezza or Simmonds.

That's not a thing that exists outside of ELC's

Heard Jeff Carter is great at faceoffs

Top 6

 

[MrHeiskanen]

LOL

all clubs are looking for a cost affective FWD--high performance low cost

I thought the Leafs were already tight against the cap and spent their LTIR money?

Dallas is not.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Bertuzzi
Domi
Knies

Aren't enough?

 

[Habbietat]

Sean Monahan at 50% is 1 mil. for .8ish ppg and 60% fo, can play wing, great for faceoff coverage in defensive zone, penalty killer, cant get much better rate then that, looks healthy and UFA at end of year

 

[Breakers]

Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Bertuzzi
Domi
Knies

Aren't enough?

I mean 5 of those are legit top 6 players
so I get what you're saying.

 

[TheDoldrums]

This makes no sense. Any reasonable evaluation of the team would easily conclude that defensemen will be their targets in trades. They have Robertson and McMann on the Marlies already pushing for promotions. Pagnotta is a hack.