Player Discussion David Krejci V

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UncleRico

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This is one of the dumbest/most pointless arguments I’ve seen in the bruins forum in a long time. I guess when you’re the best team in the league, fans will start finding anything to argue about.

At least I got a good laugh out of some of these posts.
 

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I don’t see why we need to put down one elite Bruin to prop up another elite Bruin, that’s just me though

They’ll both be in the rafters. I think Bergeron is the better overall hockey player but offensively they do different things well

I hope somebody didn’t say Bergeron has a bad shot though, that’s just absurd. He’s not a weapon of mass destruction like Pastrnak is but he’s pretty damn good at shooting the puck when he’s healthy

That's because the poster is agenda driven, and has to do this to make his point: DK is getting screwed and deserves Marchand and Pasta more than Bergeron. Which is what he's really saying in a very roundabout way. Bergy is a pedestrian player without his line mates, has bad hands, and a weak shot. DK doesn't, so give DK Marchand and Pasta. :laugh:
 

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That's because the poster is agenda driven, and has to do this to make his point: DK is getting screwed and deserves Marchand and Pasta more than Bergeron. Which is what he's really saying in a very roundabout way. Bergy is a pedestrian player without his line mates, has bad hands, and a weak shot. DK doesn't, so give DK Marchand and Pasta. :laugh:
I don’t agree that Bergeron has a bad shot, I think it’s pretty good and Bergy knows how to use it. I also think Krejci is the better playmaker and Pastrnak and Marchand could benefit playing with Krejci.
 
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you think bergeron has good hands??
and a good shot?? he has everything else but those 2 he does not have

He has gotten high end at the quick shot from the bumper, but you are right that outside of that shot his shot is weak. But, he has certainly gotten very good at that quick shot from the bumper on the PP.
 

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I think you missread everything in my post, if that's the conclusion you get. I did put it into perspective, Seguin didn't play with Bergy when he was a rookie, same with Pasta who didn't played with him in his two first years. In fact, the 1st season they both play with Bergeron they outscore him. I also did write rookie Marchand, because he did play with Marchand when he was a rookie and for that reason, I gave the edge in Qola to Krejci that year. What I showed is Bergy had better teamates almost all the time ...


Krejci also had alot of defensive responsability at the time the Bruins were contender, playing on the pk and in the last minute of a game with a one goal lead.

Other than that, while Bergy as slow down this year (hoping due to injury) and while he is defenitly less creative than Pasta, Marchand, Krejci, Seguin, his IQ and work ethic have made him a consistent point producer for the Bruins since the begining of his career and in those though years when there weren't much talent to help him, he did produce and he did lead the team, something Coyle wouldn't be able to do, unless we are really bad.

To me both Krejci and Bergeron are/were 1a and 1b. Krejci is like a 90 offense 80 defense, while Bergeron is a 80 offense 100 defense.
While i see things over the years differently than you, i agree on your conclusion. My point is that Bergeron is a very good o player, my pov was not to compare DK career with PB but simply to invoke that Bergeron on the second line would make his way and add his similar 60-70 points on a 82 games season if Cassidy played him in a o game not only shut down.
Last point as i said last year, robing Jim for James does not make sense so swapping DK and PB would not add anything especially if you want to split offense. I would love Pastrnak on DK line with Debrusk and Bergeron and Marchand having the tough assignement comes the PO.
 

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That's because the poster is agenda driven, and has to do this to make his point: DK is getting screwed and deserves Marchand and Pasta more than Bergeron. Which is what he's really saying in a very roundabout way. Bergy is a pedestrian player without his line mates, has bad hands, and a weak shot. DK doesn't, so give DK Marchand and Pasta. :laugh:
Well written, this was essentially my reading of all the DK fans agenda to which i tried to respond since last year. You responded like i would have loved to .
 
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Krejci is a pass first 2 way playing making center. Hes never been a great goal scorer even though hes gotten over 20 goals a few times lately. Bergeron has scored 30 or more 3 of the last 5 years, excellent playmaker but I think Krejci has the edge there. They go very well together as a 1 2 punch as evidenced by 3 finals runs. If you can get them both surrounded by talent on both their wings, they can make a 4th finals run. If they ignore the top 6 RW need again, it will cost them
 
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I don’t agree that Bergeron has a bad shot, I think it’s pretty good and Bergy knows how to use it. I also think Krejci is the better playmaker and Pastrnak and Marchand could benefit playing with Krejci.

See, I disagree. Not because Bergy is better than DK or vice versa. Simply speaking, I know what Bergy is with Marchand and Pasta, and that's one of the best lines in all of hockey. It's dominant. Would it be significantly better or worse with DK there instead? Who cares, really? We already know what those guys are together. Rather than making drastic changes or potentially weakening a key advantage for this team, why not focus on getting a wing to play with DK and JDB instead?
 

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See, I disagree. Not because Bergy is better than DK or vice versa. Simply speaking, I know what Bergy is with Marchand and Pasta, and that's one of the best lines in all of hockey. It's dominant. Would it be significantly better or worse with DK there instead? Who cares, really? We already know what those guys are together. Rather than making drastic changes or potentially weakening a key advantage for this team, why not focus on getting a wing to play with DK and JDB instead?
I don't disagree. If they got a legit top 6 RW I wouldn't be bitching about it lol. I do like seeing Krejci gel with Pastrnak, he's a fun player to watch when he has someone to click with.
 
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See, I disagree. Not because Bergy is better than DK or vice versa. Simply speaking, I know what Bergy is with Marchand and Pasta, and that's one of the best lines in all of hockey. It's dominant. Would it be significantly better or worse with DK there instead? Who cares, really? We already know what those guys are together. Rather than making drastic changes or potentially weakening a key advantage for this team, why not focus on getting a wing to play with DK and JDB instead?
I definitely miss the Lucic Krejci Horton line. As fun as the current Bergy line is to watch, that Krejci line could score on opposing teams or just demolish them physically.
 
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When I went to a game last year I watched Krejci and Marchand make cross ice passes and one timers after warm up. I’m not sure how long they’ve been doing this but it looked like they both work on one timers quite a bit.
Interesting you brought this up

krejci ended Friday warmups off to left side taking 2 cross iced passes and burying them then skates off

looks like a ritual
 
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Krejci is not better overall than Bergeron but offensively he is. Not by much but he is. And a hurt Bergeron of course.

Here’s the thing about Bergeron that you can’t say about DK. 50% Bergeron with 2 scrubs equals the best 3rd line in the NHL. That would be my argument for keeping DK on the first. That and it being a better playoff fit IMO.
 

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You know what.

I'm a little ticked off at David.

It has now become very obvious whether it's the playoffs, or Begeron is out or we're down two goals late and he isn't happy with that and this guy just flips a switch and it's done.

How long has this guy been sandbagging it?

We need to get this guy performing all the time!


Total joke I do not doubt the clutch man.
 

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See, I disagree. Not because Bergy is better than DK or vice versa. Simply speaking, I know what Bergy is with Marchand and Pasta, and that's one of the best lines in all of hockey. It's dominant. Would it be significantly better or worse with DK there instead? Who cares, really? We already know what those guys are together. Rather than making drastic changes or potentially weakening a key advantage for this team, why not focus on getting a wing to play with DK and JDB instead?

Agree on both points, but I do think it's also good to be reminded, not that there was ever much doubt, that put Krejci on that top line and it's still very effective. Not because he should or shouldn't be there in Bergy's place, but because it's just good to know that if it's required in the spring then that combo should do just fine. Of course that creates other headaches down the lines, but Coyle certainly helps to alleviate those somewhat.
 
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DarrenBanks56

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God damn. i love krejci.
He made it look so easy when he gained the zone on that power play goal. When the first unit couldnt get in the zone at all.
Then that pass to Backes. Silky soft hand on that guy. Please get him a player once Bergy comes back.
 

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God damn. i love krejci.
He made it look so easy when he gained the zone on that power play goal. When the first unit couldnt get in the zone at all.
Then that pass to Backes. Silky soft hand on that guy. Please get him a player once Bergy comes back.
I was watching the game at a friends house last night and we were both asking why isn’t Krejci on the top unit. I was saying he’s one of the best at carrying the puck into the zone and the top unit can’t even get it in. Sure enough the second unit comes out with Krejci and gets it done.
 
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God damn. i love krejci.
He made it look so easy when he gained the zone on that power play goal. When the first unit couldnt get in the zone at all.
Then that pass to Backes. Silky soft hand on that guy. Please get him a player once Bergy comes back.
Yeah like we all haven’t been saying that for awhile.Lol
 

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I wonder since DK can still get it done even with an anchor playing on his RW that the Bruins haven't been and aren't all that urgent about getting a real RW for him. I mean, what's the hurry when DK keeps putting up assists and the odd goal???

:dunno:
 

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bergeron has horrible hands and a horrible shot. but the guy is so smart. if he actually had good hands and a shot he would be the best player in the league.
with krejci linemates bergy prob gets similar to coyle numbers

So horrible that he'll end his career with over 400 goals and over 1000 points... despite losing about 3 seasons worth of games due to concussion/recovery and lockouts.
 

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I wonder since DK can still get it done even with an anchor playing on his RW that the Bruins haven't been and aren't all that urgent about getting a real RW for him. I mean, what's the hurry when DK keeps putting up assists and the odd goal???

:dunno:

when they face the Tampas, Washintons and St Louis type teams in the playoffs, I think they'll need the 2nd line producing .Against the top teams, if the 1st line struggles it's a huge disadvantage and liability for boston to not have that top 6 RW. They can beat up on bad teams with 1 line but when it matters they'll need 2 IMO
 
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David Krejci is one of the most underrated athletes in Boston sports. You must follow hockey inside and out and you will understand what I’m saying. Goes about his business puts up his points doesn’t complain who is on his line. He won’t embarrass any teammate or media person. I always get a good laugh when they say let’s trade DK and get second line scoring. My response who’s placing the second line center. My other thought would be if Bergeron is out for any amount of time who can they bring up on the first line too. I thought DK wouldn’t be a fit on the first line because of his speed but I’ve been proven wrong. Not the first time and won’t be the last time. This is just my opinion. I’m sure some people will agree or disagree which is fine as well.
 
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