Oskar Man
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Dave Hakstol Part III
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Oh enough of this trash already. Time's up. We want progress. There's been none.
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The Sixers were doing something new and exciting. Losing ground to them was ok, because Hockey was still more buzz worthy before Embiid and Simmons started playing. But when the Phillies, in their doldrums are passing the Flyers for juice, the hockey team is in trouble. This isn't the Phillies team ascending and descending from the zenith of 2008, this is a bunch of shlubs and 3 or 4 good players on a bad team. Sure the Phillies dominate in summer, but by September, when it was clear they were a joke team, Flyers teams of yore would pick up the slack in the conversation. Not this bunch of losers though. The random folks I see on the street, I give a Go Flyers if they're wearing gear, aside from my mumbling, maybe half give any acknowledgement. It's as if the other half are wearing something just because it's clean, and not really to affiliate with said branding message.Fans don’t effect the employment of those guys whatsoever.
Hextall might not care in a sense but if enough people stop showing up he’s going to feel the effects of that from his superiors who do absolutely care about that.
All the propaganda spun from this organization isn’t some giant coincidence. They know they’re losing juice with each passing year of mediocrity.
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I think Hextall expects the Flyers to be like the Jets and be a top 10 team once enough talent has been acquired and added to the roster. Chevy and Maurice were basically treated as a joke until last season, with Chevy only making the playoffs once in his first six years as Winnipeg's GM.
List of Winnipeg Jets seasons - Wikipedia
But Hextall is banking on Hakstol, not Maurice, being able to turn things around from mediocre to great, and it's hard to envision that working out for him.
List of Winnipeg Jets seasons - Wikipedia
But Hextall is banking on Hakstol, not Maurice, being able to turn things around from mediocre to great, and it's hard to envision that working out for him.
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freakydallas13
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Honk : Communication is the key coaching attribute.
Ghost : I have no idea why the coach kept scratching me.
Honk defence force : HoNk Is A gOoD CoAcH.
Ghost : I have no idea why the coach kept scratching me.
Honk defence force : HoNk Is A gOoD CoAcH.
deadhead
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The advantage for Winnipeg, 8 1st rd picks on their roster drafted since they went to Winnipeg, drafted between 2011-2017.
Inherited Byfuglein (2011), Wheeler (2011), Chariot (2009), Little (2006) from Atlanta when they moved
signed Kulivov (2017), traded a 4th rd pick for Morrow (2018)
traded Evander Kane, Zach Bogosian and Jason Kasdorf for Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, Joel Armia, Brendan Lemieux and St. Louis' 1st round pick in 2015
I don't know if Maurice's career inspires confidence.
1st six years in Har/Car, didn't break 90 points, knocked out of playoffs 4th and 6th season in 1st rd
7th year lost in finals, missed playoffs his 8th year, replaced by Lavi in 9th season and they won the Cup.
2 years Toronto, missed playoffs
back to Carolina, replacing Lavi (who missed playoffs 2 straight seasons).
went to conference finals, missed playoffs two years, replaced in his 3rd season
Win: missed playoffs first year, lost in 1st rd 2nd year, missed playoffs for 2 years, then lost conference finals
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freakydallas13
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You can't judge Maurice, his roster wasn't perfect. He had no choice.
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I ****ing hate his guts so much.
LegionOfDoom91
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The Hakstol era is the first in my 25+ years as a fan that I know the season is over before it starts. Even in prior seasons where I know we weren't legit contenders, I at least had hope for a surprise round win or two.
Between 1995 and 2012, the Flyers won 18 Playoff series. Since? 0.
Striiker
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Imagine defending his coach.
Imagine being that ignorant.
Imagine being that ignorant.
FlyerNutter
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I’ve seen some folks on here defend him. Which is their right. Nothing wrong with that.
You can’t be serious and tell me that Hakstol hockey is something a person finds exciting though. We are watching paint dry for the last few years.
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Yeah there is a big difference between banking on a guy like Maurice who had already taken a mediocre Hurricanes team to the Stanley Cup Finals in 2002 and then again to the Conference Finals in 2009, and banking on a college coach that failed to win a National Championship in 11 years behind the bench.
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Always excuses.
Hakstol is right with Sanheim, he needs to be more physical, he's not going to be Hagg or Myers, but he shouldn't get pushed around the ice or knocked down on a regular basis, especially in the D-zone. This ain't junior hockey, playing against 16-19 year olds.
This has nothing to do with offense, it has to do with understanding if you don't play strong, teams will target you on the forecheck, people study film, and if they think they can knock you off the puck, the good forechecking teams (like Vegas) will come at you all night.
And guess what, people cheat in the NHL, players are trying to make a living and looking for an edge, so you'd better be prepared.
It's more fun to just skate down the ice, but Momma told you there'd be shifts like this, there'd be shifts like this your Momma said.
Hakstol is right with Sanheim, he needs to be more physical, he's not going to be Hagg or Myers, but he shouldn't get pushed around the ice or knocked down on a regular basis, especially in the D-zone. This ain't junior hockey, playing against 16-19 year olds.
This has nothing to do with offense, it has to do with understanding if you don't play strong, teams will target you on the forecheck, people study film, and if they think they can knock you off the puck, the good forechecking teams (like Vegas) will come at you all night.
And guess what, people cheat in the NHL, players are trying to make a living and looking for an edge, so you'd better be prepared.
It's more fun to just skate down the ice, but Momma told you there'd be shifts like this, there'd be shifts like this your Momma said.
reminder that Paul Holmgren was on the job for 6-years, inherited the literal worst team in the NHL but was always aggressively building a team to compete every year, missed the playoffs 1 time, won 7 playoff series, reached 2 Conference Finals, and a Cup Final.
This will be Ron Hextall's 5th year and the only thing he's won is a Top 3 lottery spot.
There's no telling how much of Homer's madness was actually Ed Snider's desire to contend, but when Ed Snider died so did this organization's competitive spirit.
This will be Ron Hextall's 5th year and the only thing he's won is a Top 3 lottery spot.
There's no telling how much of Homer's madness was actually Ed Snider's desire to contend, but when Ed Snider died so did this organization's competitive spirit.
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Hurricane28
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Bill seems to forget that Hakstol referred to him as a "Top 3 Defenseman" at the Town Hall a couple years back, AFTER his AHL stint.
FlyerNutter
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I hail from the ‘Buzz. I used to like Meltzer’s stuff a lot more. He’s got good knowledge on prospects but more and more he avoids any kind of negative opinion escaping his mouth. I get it, but he’s lost a bit of an edge for me. Moved a bit too much to the homer side of things.
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