Dark Side of the Ring - Viceland show

[alko]

Next week I guess people learn Taker is a racist, bigoted, redneck. Though I figured people already knew that.

Never heard or read such things. But hey, im in Slovakia. Wrestling here isnt a topic.

 

[Megahab]

I honestly think they changed Rick Steiner's kids name because of this show. Steiners apparently have a ton of dirty laundry.

The weird thing is that he's still dressed like the Steiners, has a siren in his theme like his uncle, and the commentator even made a dog faced gremlin reference last week.

 

[Bowski]

Hmmm....

Dark Side of the Ring: Rob Van Dam Looks to Clarify Ric Flair Comments

LOL, marble mouth Flair admits he's a human PoS with the cheating/drinking/debauchery/etc. for decades.
But never...would he ever...forcefully advance on a woman!

Give me a break for anyone still believing this vile geezer's garbage. A "Legend" that hasn't drawn flies to crap since the early 90s.

 

[GKJ]

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

LOL, marble mouth Flair admits he's a human PoS with the cheating/drinking/debauchery/etc. for decades.
But never...would he ever...forcefully advance on a woman!

Give me a break for anyone still believing this vile geezer's garbage. A "Legend" that hasn't drawn flies to crap since the early 90s.

Missy Hyatt's book backed up the whole Flair is gross narrative that's happening now.

 

[CDJ]

I honestly think they changed Rick Steiner's kids name because of this show. Steiners apparently have a ton of dirty laundry.

WWE finally removed the Flair "Wooo" from the opening eye catch, so basically everyone seemingly has distanced themselves from him.

Well except that insurance company he did ads for.

Next week I guess people learn Taker is a racist, bigoted, redneck. Though I figured people already knew that.

next episode is about kanyon, Taker better not have been a vile homophobe..

 

[Megahab]

LOL, marble mouth Flair admits he's a human PoS with the cheating/drinking/debauchery/etc. for decades.
But never...would he ever...forcefully advance on a woman!

Give me a break for anyone still believing this vile geezer's garbage. A "Legend" that hasn't drawn flies to crap since the early 90s.

Are you denying that Flair is a legend?

 

[Emperoreddy]

Man a good chunk of the internet was ready to cancel Taker because he was allegedly going to be outed as homphobic in the Kanyon episode and it didn't happen.

 

[Del Preston]

Kanyon's was a sad episode.

 

[GKJ]

They seemed to think Cena was the biggest dick for saying what he did, and it was only because Cena being the top guy burying him, Ric doing the same thing came across more sad.

 

[eXile3]

Why doesn't the WWE use the triple cage? I know it was late WCW but those matches were so chaotic. Seems like a missed opportunity.

 

[GKJ]

Why doesn't the WWE use the triple cage? I know it was late WCW but those matches were so chaotic. Seems like a missed opportunity.

They just use the full cell, which if guys end up on top then it’s basically the same thing. If they had a triple cage, you know what would happen.

 

[CDJ]

Jericho being like “Chris is one of those guys nobody talks bad about” like 10 minutes after ric flair and John cena were burying him on Stern is kinda funny (he was probably right but f*** cena for punching down)

Also this show is trying to kill Ric Flair

feel bad for James Mitchell, DDP, Luke Hawx, Brian Cage, and the Bucks. He clearly meant a lot to them

 

[Megahab]

Why doesn't the WWE use the triple cage? I know it was late WCW but those matches were so chaotic. Seems like a missed opportunity.

I always thought the triple cage is such a cool gimmick (WCW just used it terribly), but I think the reason WWE hasn't used it is because it would just make the HIAC look weak.

That's just what I think. I haven't read about any actual possible reasoning for not using it.

 

[eXile3]

I always thought the triple cage is such a cool gimmick (WCW just used it terribly), but I think the reason WWE hasn't used it is because it would just make the HIAC look weak.

That's just what I think. I haven't read about any actual possible reasoning for not using it.

It's kind of like a HIAC and a ladder match since the belt is on top. WWE would need to acknowledge that WCW came up with a good idea which I guess is a long shot.

 

[Ozz]

Kanyon was a fave of mine in WCW, but I never cared for anything he did in WWF which is weird since I'm "a WWF guy" and tended to prefer that over everything no matter what. People put Kanyon down for being a mid-carder at best, but that's precisely why he was so amazing. I and many others at the time, surely many of you here, watched WCW primarily for that stuff over. Mortis was awesome, Kanyon and the Flock period was even better, the programs w/Benoit, Eddie, Jericho, etc. were top-tier. So what if Kanyon couldn't have elevated himself to elite/main event status like Jericho, Eddie, and Benoit. And who's to say he couldn't have? Maybe he couldn't have, but even still that's not a bad thing at all.

 

[GKJ]

Kanyon was a fave of mine in WCW, but I never cared for anything he did in WWF which is weird since I'm "a WWF guy" and tended to prefer that over everything no matter what. People put Kanyon down for being a mid-carder at best, but that's precisely why he was so amazing. I and many others at the time, surely many of you here, watched WCW primarily for that stuff over. Mortis was awesome, Kanyon and the Flock period was even better, the programs w/Benoit, Eddie, Jericho, etc. were top-tier. So what if Kanyon couldn't have elevated himself to elite/main event status like Jericho, Eddie, and Benoit. And who's to say he couldn't have? Maybe he couldn't have, but even still that's not a bad thing at all.

It’s not inherently bad and you’re not wrong, but at that time everyone was doing everything they could to get to the top, and he’s a guy who was 6’4” so people were probably telling him as much as well.

 

[Megahab]

Kanyon was a fave of mine in WCW, but I never cared for anything he did in WWF which is weird since I'm "a WWF guy" and tended to prefer that over everything no matter what. People put Kanyon down for being a mid-carder at best, but that's precisely why he was so amazing. I and many others at the time, surely many of you here, watched WCW primarily for that stuff over. Mortis was awesome, Kanyon and the Flock period was even better, the programs w/Benoit, Eddie, Jericho, etc. were top-tier. So what if Kanyon couldn't have elevated himself to elite/main event status like Jericho, Eddie, and Benoit. And who's to say he couldn't have? Maybe he couldn't have, but even still that's not a bad thing at all.

It was a time in wrestling where guys in all levels of the card were over. Compare it to now, where you're either in the main events or you're not, at least in WWE.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Kanyon was a fave of mine in WCW, but I never cared for anything he did in WWF which is weird since I'm "a WWF guy" and tended to prefer that over everything no matter what. People put Kanyon down for being a mid-carder at best, but that's precisely why he was so amazing. I and many others at the time, surely many of you here, watched WCW primarily for that stuff over. Mortis was awesome, Kanyon and the Flock period was even better, the programs w/Benoit, Eddie, Jericho, etc. were top-tier. So what if Kanyon couldn't have elevated himself to elite/main event status like Jericho, Eddie, and Benoit. And who's to say he couldn't have? Maybe he couldn't have, but even still that's not a bad thing at all.

I liked Kanyon in WCW with the flock and DDP and all that. Only vaguely remember Mortis though for some reason. But I was an absolute mark for Alliance MVP Kanyon during the Invasion.

And not everybody needs to be at the top of the card, he could have stayed in the midcard and that would have been fine. IC title, Tag Teams, etc. And also could have been that floater to throw in multiman World Title matches when you needed an extra guy and wouldn't look out of place.

Injuries and being a WCW guy (and also probably his bi-polar/mental health) probably hurt him with WWE more than anything. The only guys I can think of that came over from WCW/ECW in the initial invasion/buying of those companies that weren't buried after that was angle over were Booker T, RVD and maybe The Hurricane.

 

[Megahab]

I was a big fan of Kanyon. I don't think he was ever going to be a main eventer but could have been a solid mid carder in WWE. I remember randomly wanting an Edge vs. Kanyon feud in 2003. I think this was before Edge got hurt but Kanyon was close to returning.

 

[Megahab]

I liked Kanyon in WCW with the flock and DDP and all that. Only vaguely remember Mortis though for some reason. But I was an absolute mark for Alliance MVP Kanyon during the Invasion.

And not everybody needs to be at the top of the card, he could have stayed in the midcard and that would have been fine. IC title, Tag Teams, etc. And also could have been that floater to throw in multiman World Title matches when you needed an extra guy and wouldn't look out of place.

Injuries and being a WCW guy (and also probably his bi-polar/mental health) probably hurt him with WWE more than anything. The only guys I can think of that came over from WCW/ECW in the initial invasion/buying of those companies that weren't buried after that was angle over were Booker T, RVD and maybe The Hurricane.

I think Booker T was buried for a while. He stayed over because he was entertaining/funny but from the invasion angle in the summer of 2001 until about May 2002, Booker T was presented as a weak goofy guy.

And then he really started getting over and had breakout superstar/top guy written all over him but then they had him feud with Christian instead.

 

[Voight]

LOL, marble mouth Flair admits he's a human PoS with the cheating/drinking/debauchery/etc. for decades.
But never...would he ever...forcefully advance on a woman!

Give me a break for anyone still believing this vile geezer's garbage. A "Legend" that hasn't drawn flies to crap since the early 90s.

I'm sure Flair did worse things in the 70s/80s when he was one of the top wrestlers in the world and people were more likely not to give a crap when it came sexual assault.

 

[Ozz]

It was a time in wrestling where guys in all levels of the card were over. Compare it to now, where you're either in the main events or you're not, at least in WWE.

That may be, but I very much disliked many of the most popular wrestlers in both WWF and WCW. Not sure what my point is there, I guess I'm saying I didn't just like Kanyon (and other less-than-notables of the time) for no real reason. I don't recall too many giving a crap about Mortis back in the day, that's for sure. Those dark characters were always instant faves for me, plus he could wrestle like crazy too.

 

[Bowski]

Are you denying that Flair is a legend?

Legend in his and many people's minds sure. Longevity helps that narrative.
Tell me, how many PPVs did you purchase because you just had to see the latest iteration of the same old match that slimebag wrestled? Chops, WOO, fall face down, WOO, try to go to the ropes...etc.

Sure, beating up his own clothes promos were entertaining, but who actually paid to see that horsecrap?
He stuck around forever for all of WCW's lowest moments, was a big fat nothing in WWF/E beyond his initial push.

Today, he is nothing but a pathetic vile sleazebag of a man that hasn't quite had his Ron Jeremy (another "legend") moment yet.

But back on topic, what does scumbag Flair still have against Kanyon after all of these years?

"I wasn’t a huge Kanyon fan as a worker," like he was The Great Khali or Giant Gonzales in the ring.

Sure, Kanyon wasn't top of the card, but a very solid wrestler when needed.
I would rather see the Flatliner one more time than drunken chops from a half-dead mummy.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Legend in his and many people's minds sure. Longevity helps that narrative.
Tell me, how many PPVs did you purchase because you just had to see the latest iteration of the same old match that slimebag wrestled? Chops, WOO, fall face down, WOO, try to go to the ropes...etc.

Sure, beating up his own clothes promos were entertaining, but who actually paid to see that horsecrap?
He stuck around forever for all of WCW's lowest moments, was a big fat nothing in WWF/E beyond his initial push.

Today, he is nothing but a pathetic vile sleazebag of a man that hasn't quite had his Ron Jeremy (another "legend") moment yet.

But back on topic, what does scumbag Flair still have against Kanyon after all of these years?

"I wasn’t a huge Kanyon fan as a worker," like he was The Great Khali or Giant Gonzales in the ring.

Sure, Kanyon wasn't top of the card, but a very solid wrestler when needed.
I would rather see the Flatliner one more time than drunken chops from a half-dead mummy.

On behalf of Half-Dead Mummy Enterprises, I'm sorry he refused to give you an autograph when you were a kid.