Player Discussion Danton Heinen II
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No big deal that you called him a 3rd rder not to me thats for sure maybe to your buddies though.
Some of your buddies have an air of superiorioty that i despise. At least if
Was somewhat deserved. Anyhow you seem to agree with it hence my other post to you..
If any poster cares i urge you to go back in this thread and try being objective and see how some cannot resist instigating with their disgusting blows .. Im not one to lie down when facing that approach.
Like i said .. When its not reciprocated especially after many frequencies
I do not
You chose a post of mine which wasnt adressed to you but to one where me being humble isnt an option
Im more vindicative then i am humble
Have i been humble with you?
To be honest with you, I don't care about what was said between you and anyone else. As for buddies, I agree with what I agree with, same as you. There are definitely people here who I find myself in far more agreement with than others. I am sure you feel the same way. It's a different perspective. I don't think I've ever made a habit of taking shots at you, but when you said Danton Heinen is talentless I thought that was off the rails. Disagree if you want, argue that you'd rather have Jake Virtanen, fine, but if you want to put your opinion out there, especially when it's over the top like that, it will get responses. Anyway, we can agree to disagree about Danton Heinen- but that's as far as it needs to go.
Dr Hook .this post you've written cannot be said in any more humble fashion.
Agreeing or disagreeing is fine that's what these forums are for but as I mentioned no need to call out a person or name calling . That's bullying imo.
If I proposed a trade between a
Player and an other there's no need to get offensive because it might turn out not to be as ridiculous at it may appear.to one.
That's all !
Btw .. since you mentioned I strongly disagree that a trade of JV for Danton is over the top. It might be to you and that's fine .
My point on JV although he started real slow is he's a talented player who is a very good skater and shooter . He is also having till this point a better season than Danton. I do think he has much more upside than Danton and might be some reason why JV was a high pick .I also understand that Danton had agood first half of last year but it's quite clear that he is severely struggling and having a very hard time getting on track. And that's the question and you may not agree.. fine
But the question might be is Danton in a slump? or did he simply have a good start to his career?
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GloryDaze4877
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They had 5/6 prospects in the lineup, 110+ points and made it to the second round of the playoff.
Not a single thing I have said is a personal attack. You can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but everything I said is the truth. I don’t really feel like it, but I can probably go back and find your posts.
You repeatedly talked about how poor the B’s prospects were.
You repeatedly said that they didn’t have NHL prospects.
You took shots at several prospects, including DeBrusk and Heinen.
Judging from your posts at the time, I would guess that you rarely watched these prospects play and were going by stats for the most part.
Then when these kids started hitting the NHL and performing well, you said nothing, or in the case of DeBrusk, minimalized the previous negativity and jumped on his bandwagon. In Heinen’s case you had been so negative about him, you clammed up when he was doing well.
This year, he’s struggling and you are all over him and posters defending him. When people give you crap, you fall back on this BS about it being personal and people needing to be more humble...WHEN YOU WERE THE ONE THAT STARTED THE DIALOGUE TO BEGIN WITH.
No, I don’t trade Virtanen for Heinen at this point. You would be selling low on Heinen and high on JV. First 20 games he had 8g/2a. Next 10 games he had 2 assists until he had 1g/1a vs the Preds the other night. His shooting % is high at 13.2%.
I wouldn’t be against the B’s acquiring him to be a Bottom 6 RW because I like his physical game and he’s RH, but not for Heinen.
I see Heinen as a high end 3rd line player on a good team that can fill in Top 6 if necessary. He’s probably going to be a 2-1 assist to goal guy and could put up anywhere from 30-60 points depending on his linemates and minutes. He’s not a kid that can drive a line, but if you put him with skilled linemates he will do well. If a team is going to use him in a defensive role, he would be fine. I think he has the skill set to be killing penalties if that’s how you are going to deploy him (as a defensive guy).
If I had to make a comparison, I would say PJ Axelsson with more offensive ability.
Glorydaze lets be honest ..how often have i said. Oh what a tool to you etc .. For ex. I will retaliate though but here' s the thing and i Realize these are just forums but nevertheless... Now i dont know if you have kids but imagine your child in a class who says something where 3 or 4 classmates disagree and go on to using names wtv
And being offensive... Not cool at all
And then it turns out that what your child is saying isn' t farfetched at all. If you read the past posts you will never find any one of them where i STARTED with the insults. I do hit back ..though
Now i can safely say that we are all bruin fans ...right? I would want nothing more then danton bjork etc
Scoring 100 pts a piece .
As far as Debrusk..come on how many times do i have to say it ...how many
The guy has really impressed me and i hope he keeps it up and although i judged him fast which imo is no big deal.. Until now im flat out wrong .i am wrong wrong. I went on what i had read and it did not excite me. Heck i was wrong on Senyshyn ...i thought he may be the most dynamic of them all and i also felt DS may have pulled a genius move. Ive said it so many times
As for Danton , we obviously dont agree one iota on him but i am not going call you names wtv. You say your piece i say mine. No i did not see him play but i know someone well in Col who has. Again i wish the guy can score 50 pts consistently ..heck that would give us at least more depth but i dont think he has what it takes. You obviously do not agree ..fine just no need to use insults.or possibly be condescending is there ?
Right now and for a very long time he has not produced that is a fact
I know that Danton did well in the AHL and had a good half season and you'r e thinking well he's proven he can do well in the Nhl. I am on the other side in thinking that its more then a slump.
Pj was a liked player in Bos ..He played hard every game but he was a 4th liner on a good team and he was a better skater than Danton. Danton does have more offensive skills but lacks the tools imo to be able to carry that very skillset out.
For the record i am not saying that Virtanen will be a star but he does have some intetesting tools that warrant imo taking a chance on.. Never know he can fly in beantown
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rocketdan9
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Heinen will get his wish and play with a give and go center (Cave). Plus is familiar with Backes
He needs to pot one soon to build his confidence/avoid being a scapegoat
GloryDaze4877
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I’m glad Heinen is on the “2nd line” tonight, but honestly, with that personnel it looks more line a 4th line.
When will these injuries end?
Mainehockey33
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Actually, I think it looks close to the
Heinen-Nash-Backes line of last year. I’m not writing them off yet, I think Cave might be a good fit for Heinen.
rocketdan9
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Heinen played witth and Succeded with Backes last season. All of a sudden they are strangers?
And cave might not be as good as Riley Nash(experience factor) but is similar. His passing is quite capable (give and gos)
Heinen needs to realize he is the best player on this line and carry it a little. He needs to want it
GloryDaze4877
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You misunderstood what I was saying. I was talking about the line as a whole, not just because Heinen has to play with Cave and Backes.
Heinen did have some success with Backes and Nash and Schaller last season, but not vs Top 6 competition. If that line was being trotted out as a 3rd line, I would be more confident. I like Cave, but on a good healthy team, he’s a 4th line player or an AHLer.
We shall see. I hope they do have some chemistry.
I don't know about you guys but for me it's a matter of will Pastr March DK and Jake get points I actually am at the point where these are the only guys I look too as far as forwards
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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Ironically if heinen was on another team... alot of 7d would be posting lets take a chance on him... try to get him here cheap
Also ironically... the longer he struggles the more im in favor to keep him. I imagine his trade value is dropping alot now
And his chances at a big contract are dwindling as his struggles magnify too
As an elc contract... hes ok...
So now since i feel his value for trade and contract arent significant... im going to suggest hes not a priority to trade
Also ironically... the longer he struggles the more im in favor to keep him. I imagine his trade value is dropping alot now
And his chances at a big contract are dwindling as his struggles magnify too
As an elc contract... hes ok...
So now since i feel his value for trade and contract arent significant... im going to suggest hes not a priority to trade
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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Hoping heinen (and donato) get a ton of their confidence back after picking up a multi point game against toronto tonight
Props to heinen on his goal too... was slick
I was thinking of lines tonight and we might just be a single player away from solid
If healthy we love our first line bergeron, pastrnak, marchand
I say backes/kuraly have solid chemistry... throw nordstrom with them and i trust them at playoff time to hold their own
Im willing to go with heinen/karlsson/donato/bjork and maybe smith as a (4th line) if we let them have offense freedom. Theres enough guys here we should find at least 1 with a pulse.
Just leaves 1 hole... find a 3rd member of the krecji/debrusk line and we can do this
Of course this requires everyone to be healthy... depth is very shallow
Props to heinen on his goal too... was slick
I was thinking of lines tonight and we might just be a single player away from solid
If healthy we love our first line bergeron, pastrnak, marchand
I say backes/kuraly have solid chemistry... throw nordstrom with them and i trust them at playoff time to hold their own
Im willing to go with heinen/karlsson/donato/bjork and maybe smith as a (4th line) if we let them have offense freedom. Theres enough guys here we should find at least 1 with a pulse.
Just leaves 1 hole... find a 3rd member of the krecji/debrusk line and we can do this
Of course this requires everyone to be healthy... depth is very shallow
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The only thing about that line you can trust in the playoffs is you can trust they won't score any goals.
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finally got rewarded tonight - he's been working hard and deserved better of late. hit the post early on and
i thought it was gonna be another long night for him. good stuff. really like this player.
i thought it was gonna be another long night for him. good stuff. really like this player.
rocketdan9
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Very nice goal...Like I said earlier, he needs to play skillful / fancy his game up a little.
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GloryDaze4877
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I only saw some of the 3rd because my son’s HS hockey team had it’s opener at 6pm.
Their home rink is the Mullins Practice Rink (at UMass Amherst) and it was crazy last night because UMass was playing Quinnipiac and the rinks are about 50 yards apart.
From the little I saw, it looked like Heinen was with JFK and Donato, not Cave (and Backes)...and the assist was from Donato. When did Cassidy switch up the lines?
Nice goal by Dan. Rushed the puck out of his own end, down the boards and deaking out a D man and Anderson. Hope this starts a streak. Donato a big asset to that line.
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