Daniel & Henrik Sedin Thread - Part III (MOD Notice Post # 53)

[y2kcanucks]

They proved him wrong.

In the regular season sure. But it's the same old disappearing acts in the playoffs over and over again.

 

[Alan Jackson]

The Perry/Getzlaf line has already produced 2/3rds of the goals the Sedins produced at even strength, and they're only 23 minutes into the series.

The same Perry and Getzlaf that combined for 3 goals and a -10 in last season's second round loss to the Kings?

 

[Proto]

The same Perry and Getzlaf that combined for 3 goals and a -10 in last season's second round loss to the Kings?

He expects the Sedins to perform like the best players in the world at every given moment, selectively choosing his list of favourites for each day, week, or series.

Ovechkin had 5 in 7 in round 1 but Caps fans weren't raking him over the coals for being a loser.

 

[y2kcanucks]

The same Perry and Getzlaf that combined for 3 goals and a -10 in last season's second round loss to the Kings?

Explains why they lost. Their best players weren't their best players in that series.

 

[Alan Jackson]

Explains why they lost. Their best players weren't their best players in that series.

Can you explain Toews' and Kane's stats in the Hawks most recent cup run?

 

[Alan Jackson]

Explains why they lost. Their best players weren't their best players in that series.

It also explains that good players don't always produce in a playoff series. The best players in the league cannot live up to your expectations for the Sedins.

 

[Maline]

Again, you keep saying they showed up and everyone else didn't. How can that be true when their production was either matched or exceeded by everyone else? There's no logic to it.

We had 3-0 and still managed to lose. We scored 4 goals, and still managed to lose.
How many goals against did the Sedins have ?....Not counting empty netter.

Now tell me, did really the others show up ? No they didnt. And again, Miller did a Luongo special, but I guess thats something you and me got used to while he was here

 

[Maline]

Explains why they lost. Their best players weren't their best players in that series.

You dont say...And according to your own logic the Sedins should always produce and be best

 

[Jyrki21]

Imagine if everyone on this site waited for a meaninglessly small data sample that "proved" some thing they'd talked about endlessly, and then posted about it 200 times in one thread. This place would be a mess.

Minus four, people.

MINUS FOUR.

I always said Amonte should have been 2nd in Calder voting in 1992. Always.

 

[God]

Can you explain Toews' and Kane's stats in the Hawks most recent cup run?

No man, that has nothing to do with the Sedins because Toews and Kane are different people and all analogies are red herrings.

 

[Zarpan]

It also explains that good players don't always produce in a playoff series. The best players in the league cannot live up to your expectations for the Sedins.

Yep, that's really it. He posted after game 5 that he had expected the Sedin line to produce preferably 5 ES goals at that point.

This season there were exactly 0 forwards who were on the ice for 1+ ES goals for per game. That's during the regular season too.

Thus y2kcanucks' expectations for the Sedins are that they should produce in the playoffs at a level better than any forward managed to average during the regular season.

 

[Maline]

Yep, that's really it. He posted after game 5 that he had expected the Sedin line to produce preferably 5 ES goals at that point.

This season there were exactly 0 forwards who were on the ice for 1+ ES goals for per game. That's during the regular season too.

Thus y2kcanucks' expectations for the Sedins are that they should produce in the playoffs at a level better than any forward managed to average during the regular season.

Its not only that. If a team scores 5 goals on us, its expected that the Sedins score 6.

 

[Hardyvan123]

The same Perry and Getzlaf that combined for 3 goals and a -10 in last season's second round loss to the Kings?

getz had a 12-4-11-15 minus 2 line last year
Perry a 13-4-7-11 minus 2 line

really not that bad of a playoff was it?

And heck players who lead teams to SC's get a bit of slack right?

 

[Hyzer]

It is pretty simple: we will never win anything with the Sedins at the forefront of the team. I don't know how anyone can argue that. 2 Soft perimeter players not doing well in the playoffs... I wonder why?

It will definitely be sad to see them go of course. 2 twins who have played with each other throughout their entire career with amazing chemistry. But they can't get it done, simple as that.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Its not only that. If a team scores 5 goals on us, its expected that the Sedins score 6.

Mind showing me where I said that? Stop making things up.

 

[Proto]

The Canucks went to Game 7 of the SCF with the Sedins. Anyone who says they could never win with them is lying to support a dumb argument.

That sounds harsh, but I'm so tired of reading these insane arguments, littered throughout the board by the hundreds. It's $*&#ing endless.

 

[Maline]

Mind showing me where I said that? Stop making things up.

You have pointed that out several times according to your hockey and Sedins logic.
Selfdenial much?

 

[y2kcanucks]

You have pointed that out several times according to your hockey and Sedins logic.
Selfdenial much?

Suggesting the Sedins should have scored a go-ahead goal at 4-4 doesn't mean I would have expexted them to score all 5 goals.

 

[iceburg]

Suggesting the Sedins should have scored a go-ahead goal at 4-4 doesn't mean I would have expexted them to score all 5 goals.

You expect them to perform at a level that is beyond their capability. Stone meet blood.
I know this is going to fall on deaf ears but give up already.

 

[y2kcanucks]

You expect them to perform at a level that is beyond their capability. Stone meet blood.
I know this is going to fall on deaf ears but give up already.

I expect them to play at a level worthy of their contracts. In the playoffs they do not.

 

[Alan Jackson]

I expect them to play at a level worthy of their contracts. In the playoffs they do not.

Yes, they do.

 

[iceburg]

I expect them to play at a level worthy of their contracts. In the playoffs they do not.

yadda yadda yadda

I don't completely disagree with you (though I do mostly) but the obsessive mantra gets really old.

 

[doobie604]

Yes you can win with the twins. Now can management build enough depth and draft some gems without high picks is the bigger question. Sure they've lost a step, but they also have a less effective line mates, less competent D to join the rush. Hockey is a team sport, 2 players can only do so much.

 

[vanarchy]

Minus four, people.

MINUS FOUR.

I always said Amonte should have been 2nd in Calder voting in 1992. Always.

Should have been bought out and sent back to Europe that year.

 

[Maline]

Suggesting the Sedins should have scored a go-ahead goal at 4-4 doesn't mean I would have expexted them to score all 5 goals.

The rest of the team should have showed up at 3-0 and not pop their pants. That sounds better dont you think.

Next season every time Sedins score a go ahead goal, im expecting the rest of the team to win the game.. If not, non is worthy their contract and should all retire. Thats y2k hockey logic in a nutshell.