Crosby is a generational regular season player

[Thread The Needle]

Crosby can't hear you with his Stanley Cup rings blocking his ears.

 

[nowhereman]

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Malkin was better last year IMO and carried the team when Crosby missed time. Crosby was still quite good though. The year before was also a surprise win for Crosby.

Crosby missed one game and Malkin had one assist in that game. What are you even talking about?

Crosby was clearly better than Malkin and there's a reason the vast majority of the voters thought so, as well.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Crosby missed one game and Malkin had one assist in that game. What are you even talking about?

A primary assist on the game winner in a series that went the full 7 games is clearly making a difference (hint: without it, Pens don't win the series). As did Malkin's 2 points in the game that Crosby went down.

Crosby was clearly better than Malkin and there's a reason the vast majority of the voters thought so, as well.

Oh, there's a reason alright.

 

[daver]

A primary assist on the game winner in a series that went the full 7 games is clearly making a difference (hint: without it, Pens don't win the series). As did Malkin's 2 points in the game that Crosby went down.

If primary points are so important, how can you say Malkin was better when he far more 2nd assists?

 

[daver]

Oh, there's a reason alright.

Sounds like someone doesn't have an argument.

 

[molon labe]

Another awful thread.

Posters who would vote strictly on points in the playoffs each year clearly miss the point over a team sport... Crosby was easily the best player in the 2017 playoffs (any team), and arguably the best in 2016 - but that one was more difficult as the Penguins played some of the most complete team-hockey I've ever witnessed in 2016. Hornqvist was blocking shots with his head, Cole was playing like a 7M defensemen, Schultz was playing like his hyped up college days, our third line full of top 6 guys were making other third lines look awful - that playoffs got people confused.

As has been stated he's won it all, highest PPG in the playoffs of any active player - and the humility and leadership he's displayed with age (remember he's 30) is unrivaled. I suppose people are just mad about his ranting on Twitter and unsavory pictures on Facebook and Instagram. Plus the fact he dates that hollywood bimbo, has a hipster haircut, and attends all these random events looking for publicity and stardom. Easy to see how he can be hated when you consider those facts. Maybe the guy should spend more time practicing hockey in the off season and stop trying to trample on all these past generations of hockey players who drank beer in the off season, did blow during the season, and danced around poles of defensemen without being slashed or cross checked in the head.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

If primary points are so important, how can you say Malkin was better when he far more 2nd assists?

Uh-oh, it's the Crosby police. Nice strawman you've made there.

Sounds like someone doesn't have an argument.

It is the same reason Malkin was inexplicably left off the top 100 list.

 

[Sojourn]

A primary assist on the game winner in a series that went the full 7 games is clearly making a difference (hint: without it, Pens don't win the series). As did Malkin's 2 points in the game that Crosby went down.

You said Malkin carried the team.

Not that he was making a difference. That he carried the team. This sounds more like you backpedaling.

 

[Sojourn]

It is the same reason Malkin was inexplicably left off the top 100 list.

Is this the same reason Malkin won the Conn Smythe in 2009? Or does that not work for your insinuation that Malkin is treated unfairly...

When Malkin deserved the Conn Smythe, he won it.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

This is just...what? Is that your definition of what a generational talent is? If it is, are these "Generational" as well in your opinion?

I dunno. Did all those players play in one of the lowest scoring eras in NHL history, as the poster was very clear about stipulating?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Whats your obsession with that term? Yes, hes one of the best players today, but I'm guessing your list of "generational" players dont include the likes of Jagr, Hasek, Lidström. Why is his PPG, for example, more impressive than Forsbergs? He played in a harder era as well.

Lidstrom doesn't have numbers. Jagr doesn't have near the same playoff success. Crosby played a greater portion of his career in a lower-scoring era than Forsberg.

 

[Riddum]

OP's premise is bizarre. I could have sworn that Crosby had 2 Conn Smythe Trophies.... if he isn't a generational playoffs player as well, then I don't know who is.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Why is this thread still even open? OP made a ridiculous claim and then just bailed.

 

[DDRhockey]

Lidstrom doesn't have numbers. Jagr doesn't have near the same playoff success. Crosby played a greater portion of his career in a lower-scoring era than Forsberg.

Forsberg played his prime in the first DPE.

I would defnitely put forsberg above crosby in terms of allaround game

 

[daver]

Forsberg played his prime in the first DPE.

I would defnitely put forsberg above crosby in terms of allaround game

Which matters not when you view the gap between them in offence.

 

[DDRhockey]

Which matters not when you view the gap between them in offence.

There is a gap? Crosby would never survive the abuse forsberg got in clutch and grab era

 

[BrindamoursNose]

What's even the point of making a distinction?

Dude wins all the time, scores and is really clutch. He's a generational player and leave it at that.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

What's even the point of making a distinction?

Dude wins all the time, scores and is really clutch. He's a generational player and leave it at that.

Because people can't make inflammatory threads/posts if they had to use logic and reason, that's why.

 

[daver]

There is a gap? Crosby would never survive the abuse forsberg got in clutch and grab era

FFS, thought you actually were going to provide some insightful comments. We get it, all DPE players are superior to players from any other era.

 

[DDRhockey]

FFS, thought you actually were going to provide some insightful comments. We get it, all DPE players are superior to players from any other era.

This is how it looked in year 2000.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

This is how it looked in year 2000.

Do you not watch any games nowadays? That's the type of stuff Crosby deals with every game. That's the type of stuff McDavid deals with every game.

I thought you'd at least post a video of something really over the top. Instead, you posted a video of basically the treatment all star players get on a nightly basis.

 

[DDRhockey]

Do you not watch any games nowadays? That's the type of stuff Crosby deals with every game. That's the type of stuff McDavid deals with every game.

I thought you'd at least post a video of something really over the top. Instead, you posted a video of basically the treatment all star players get on a nightly basis.

Lol it even close. The refs call much more PP now than in the grab and clutch era.

Forsberg is one of the most complete players i ever seen. I take him above crosby for sure.

 

[Laineux]

Lol it even close. The refs call much more PP now than in the grab and clutch era.

That is factually incorrect. Powerplays have been at an all-time low for some time now, though they are up in this particular year.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/stats.html

 

[DDRhockey]

That is factually incorrect. Powerplays have been at an all-time low for some time now, though they are up in this particular year.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/stats.html

Even if it is incorrect forsberg definitelt took morw abuse than golden boy crosby. Kings played forsberg so hard in 2001 playoffs that he ruptured his spleen

 

[Habs10025]

Generational Player ?? What is a generational player the term is so over used now it holds no value anymore .