Rumor: Coyotes one of many teams inquiring about Pierre-Luc Dubois (UPD: Off to WPG)

[Sm00chy]

I see this as Armstrong just checking to see what the price is. Cant imagine we have the assets to pull off this trade...or if PLD even would like to play for the Coyotes.

Interesting nonetheless...

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[XX]

Columbus would ask for one of Hayton, Dvorak, or Schmaltz to be in the deal and it should end there.

It's risky trading for a malcontent. I personally don't think highly of players that chafe under Torts, especially if he is trying to coach you up into a true 1C like he was in the playoffs. You're 22 and making 5 mil a year, listen to your GD coach.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

After his last shift I'm not really interested. He seems selfish. If we traded for him I'd expect him to test FA as soon as he can and go to MTL.

 

[_Del_]

Columbus would ask for one of Hayton, Dvorak, or Schmaltz to be in the deal and it should end there.

My conversation wouldn't go completely dead even if they asked for all three of those guys.

 

[KG]

The due diligence is necessary. It's not often a 1C comes on the market. But as XX noted, there's substantial risk with a malcontent. Seugin turned out alright, RyJo did not and etc.

 

[Jamieh]

Columbus would ask for one of Hayton, Dvorak, or Schmaltz to be in the deal and it should end there.

It's risky trading for a malcontent. I personally don't think highly of players that chafe under Torts, especially if he is trying to coach you up into a true 1C like he was in the playoffs. You're 22 and making 5 mil a year, listen to your GD coach.

If one of those 3 could be the main piece in a trade for PLD i would do it in a heartbeat, you then have a year and a bit to convince him to sign long term. If it was Schmaltz you would have the bonus of correcting a bad contract.

 

[Jamieh]

My conversation wouldn't go completely dead even if they asked for all three of those guys.

That was my first thought but maybe it's extreme??

 

[_Del_]

That was my first thought but maybe it's extreme??

They'd need to have something else coming our way, but it wouldn't end my interest if that was their wishlist.

 

[XX]

The due diligence is necessary. It's not often a 1C comes on the market. But as XX noted, there's substantial risk with a malcontent. Seugin turned out alright, RyJo did not and etc.

There's also the problem of his contract. He appears to be trying to speedrun to FA, so you would need to basically a.) get permission to talk to him before the trade and convince him and b.) take on more risk by signing him to a long term extension before he has ever demonstrated value for your organization, otherwise you just end up in the same spot Columbus is in.

The player is wildly talented but there's too many red flags and not enough trade ammo.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

I'm also on the side of not really being interested in a player who seems to care more about his own success vs the team's success. It's one thing to want out but it's another thing to quit on your team and teammates. Especially since he's an integral part of their success on the ice and he knows that.

Would be a very Coyote's thing to somehow pull of a trade that gives away a lot of value and then he comes here, does ok... and leaves for nothing. Thus, setting the franchise even further back and adding another dagger into the pincushion that is a Coyotes fan's heart.

But hey, if the Yotes get him for peanuts... then why the heck not? Would never happen, though.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

The due diligence is necessary. It's not often a 1C comes on the market. But as XX noted, there's substantial risk with a malcontent. Seugin turned out alright, RyJo did not and etc.

Seguin was buried in Boston behind Bergeron and Krecji. He already won a cup. It made sense for him to want to be a star somewhere. Pun intended

RyJo is similar and he's faded away. Dubois seems worse to trade for. He seems to be more interested in playing in hockey market like MTL.

 

[Jamieh]

Seems many have read a lot into one singular shift from PLD. I would be nervous of the trade but he has another year and will still be an RFA, assets could be recouped.

 

[AZviaNJ]

There's also the problem of his contract. He appears to be trying to speedrun to FA, so you would need to basically a.) get permission to talk to him before the trade and convince him and b.) take on more risk by signing him to a long term extension before he has ever demonstrated value for your organization, otherwise you just end up in the same spot Columbus is in.

The player is wildly talented but there's too many red flags and not enough trade ammo.

Plus his supposed preference is to play for a big market team. Montreal has assets and a homecoming is probably what PLD desires most....not that Jarmo would do anything to help him.

 

[moosemeister]

We literally just traded the farm away from Hall, who left the moment he could. we all saw it coming.

PLD will leave the moment he could. We all see it coming already.

AZ does not have the ammunition to pull off this trade and sustain their rebuild.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Seems many have read a lot into one singular shift from PLD. I would be nervous of the trade but he has another year and will still be an RFA, assets could be recouped.

It's a lot more than one shift....this has been building for months.

 

[rt]

Just don’t trade Garland.

 

[Jamieh]

It's a lot more than one shift....this has been building for months.

The wanting out has been building, the quiting was one shift.

 

[Jakey53]

Columbus would ask for one of Hayton, Dvorak, or Schmaltz to be in the deal and it should end there.

It's risky trading for a malcontent. I personally don't think highly of players that chafe under Torts, especially if he is trying to coach you up into a true 1C like he was in the playoffs. You're 22 and making 5 mil a year, listen to your GD coach.

After his last shift I'm not really interested. He seems selfish. If we traded for him I'd expect him to test FA as soon as he can and go to MTL.

We as fans don't know the whole story. I guess the question I would ask the Columbus management is why are so many players wanting out?

 

[Grimes]

On one hand potential 1C's only show up on the trade market once every 5 years or so. You can't get them unless you draft one otherwise. On the other hand the ask and risk just doesn't feel worth it. Have to see what could get it done but I hope we get priced out.

Wonder if there would be anything around Domi + PLD. Maybe now that Domi got dumped by one of his dream destinations he wouldn't mind coming back to a familiar home.

Schmaltz+Dvo+Lumbus 2nd for PLD and Domi? Or trade out Schmaltz for Hayton if they want the chance to swing at the fences. Probably off, and that's about all I'd be willing to put on the table after the net negative in assets we have after the Hall trade.

 

[XX]

Jarmo would be after Dvorak+++ and I just wouldn't be interested. PLD would come here for a year or two, bro it up in Scottsdale, and then engineer a move elsewhere again. Just not worth it, especially seeing as how assets rarely appreciate in value in the desert.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

There's also the problem of his contract. He appears to be trying to speedrun to FA, so you would need to basically a.) get permission to talk to him before the trade and convince him and b.) take on more risk by signing him to a long term extension before he has ever demonstrated value for your organization, otherwise you just end up in the same spot Columbus is in.

The player is wildly talented but there's too many red flags and not enough trade ammo.

And even if he agrees to a long term deal what's stopping him from demanding a trade then pouting. He's shown that if he wants out he becomes useless on the ice.

 

[Jakey53]

My conversation wouldn't go completely dead even if they asked for all three of those guys.

If they asked for ALL I would hang up immediately. Now, if they asked for one + I would start talking.

 

[Jakey53]

Seems many have read a lot into one singular shift from PLD. I would be nervous of the trade but he has another year and will still be an RFA, assets could be recouped.

I agree, but is the ask is reasonable I would not think twice.

 

[Sm00chy]

The only way I would be ok with trading for PLD is in a sign and trade scenario...which I dont see happening.

 

[AZviaNJ]

We as fans don't know the whole story. I guess the question I would ask the Columbus management is why are so many players wanting out?

Torts primarily, old school meets new school...as soon as CBJ misses the playoffs Torts will be sent packing.

That said, as an old school fan, I respect how hard Torts' teams play...he demands players to bring it every shift. Wish Tocc brought the same passion to his job.