Speculation: Coyotes 2021 Offseason Roster Discussion Thread #2

[Schemp]

If I’m correct, if they sign Bunting, they don’t get to pick a player from the coyotes because that was their pick.

Yes you are correct as long as it is before or during the expansion draft.
After he becomes a UFA, it's too late.

 

[moosemeister]

Yes you are correct as long as it is before or during the expansion draft.
After he becomes a UFA, it's too late.

Got it. Gonna be a fun few weeks! Haha

 

[Schemp]

Got it. Gonna be a fun few weeks! Haha

Seattle can offer any non-protective impending UFA 8 years too during those 4 days. Not saying they would for Bunting, but I do wonder if that extra year may help to entice someone?
I'm expecting a lot of activity before the entry draft and during the draft.

 

[Jamieh]

Maybe, but other organizations also have players on their farm team that may be able to fill that role. Let's not forget that Bunting didn't do anything on team Canada, as least what I have read, and he could still bomb out at the NHL level. This is no sure thing and I wouldn't open the wallet for him.

I hope you are smarter than to suggest no team would put a million dollar value on a decent sized 25 year old player who has proven he isn't afraid to get his nose dirty rather than throw their kids with higher ceilings into the cooker??

 

[Jakey53]

I hope you are smarter than to suggest no team would put a million dollar value on a decent sized 25 year old player who has proven he isn't afraid to get his nose dirty rather than throw their kids with higher ceilings into the cooker??

I think Bunting will get more $$ than a million. Bunting is still a very big risk though as his sample size is very small.

 

[Jamieh]

I think Bunting will get more $$ than a million. Bunting is still a very big risk though as his sample size is very small.

Well that's a different argument. I posted that someone might give him a one way deal and play him high up the lineup giving him a great opportunity to earn a bigger payday next time.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Would not be super shocked if a team offers Bunting 3m. Doubt it happens, but it's a possibility. If I were Bunting, and a team with high cap space and a spot to play offered me a decent amount I'd probably take that over whatever the Coyotes offer. Depends on what the management has said though.

 

[hbk]

Would not be super shocked if a team offers Bunting 3m. Doubt it happens, but it's a possibility. If I were Bunting, and a team with high cap space and a spot to play offered me a decent amount I'd probably take that over whatever the Coyotes offer. Depends on what the management has said though.

Nobody os offering. bunting $3M. Nobody. 30% scoring percentage is not sustainable and GM’s are not stupid. Max $1.5M on a one-way. My beat guess is $1.2M.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Until bunting can actually prove that he can play and score over the course of a full season he is not worth more than 1.5 per for 2 years at most

 

[Schemp]

Even $1.5 mil is too much. Bunting will be happy with a 1-way contract. Then it's about term, and who would offer the most years?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

FWIW, in Friedman's latest 32 Thoughts, he says that Christian Dvorak is generating a lot of league-wide interest.

Sabres fan coming in peace, wondering what the price on Dvorak may be?

 

[Heldig]

Sabres fan coming in peace, wondering what the price on Dvorak may be?

About the only piece that would make sense for the Coyotes is Reinhart.

 

[KG]

I just realized Tocchet showed up for his interview with a PowerPoint and Armstrong showed up for his with a 75 page dissertation

 

[rt]

I just realized Tocchet showed up for his interview with a PowerPoint and Armstrong showed up for his with a 75 page dissertation

Rumors that Tocchet is going to take the vacant assistant job in Toronto. Four years later, he’s interviewing to be the assistant for Keefe, who many of us had on our short list after Tippett left. Funny how things turn out.

 

[Jamieh]

Rumors that Tocchet is going to take the vacant assistant job in Toronto. Four years later, he’s interviewing to be the assistant for Keefe, who many of us had on our short list after Tippett left. Funny how things turn out.

Those rumors are getting louder but I have trouble understanding how Dubas and Tocchet sit down for a meeting and come away on the same team? They don't see compatible???

 

[rt]

I’ve been thinking a lot about Jonathan Drouin. One of my favorite junior players ever. He was being praised this year for improving his play away from the puck and his work rate. Then, suddenly, he’s LTIR for a “Personal LOA” and neither the team nor the player provide any comment at any point. It has been reported that his teammates have stayed in touch and were texting him along the way during their Cinderella Cup run. There’s been a lot of speculation that he’s struggling with the market and his issue may be geographical in nature.

He’s a guy with an unbelievable amount of untapped talent. He’s got some issues apparently. I thought about him when we hired Tourigny. I wonder if he’s the guy who can get through to Drouin and be the guy who finally gets the most out of him. I would guess the acquisition cost is about zero.

 

[rt]

Those rumors are getting louder but I have trouble understanding how Dubas and Tocchet sit down for a meeting and come away on the same team? They don't see compatible???

Did you forget about the existence of John Chayka?

 

[Jamieh]

Did you forget about the existence of John Chayka?

Haha yeah. Tocchet must be really different in meetings??? That's all I got

 

[Jakey53]

Those rumors are getting louder but I have trouble understanding how Dubas and Tocchet sit down for a meeting and come away on the same team? They don't see compatible???

Now you know why your team are called the Maple Laughs.

 

[Jamieh]

Now you know why your team are called the Maple Laughs.

I don't think I just learned!!! I was alive for the Ballard years.

 

[Mosby]

I think if you were to build a player who is basically the exact opposite of what Bill Armstrong wants, that player would look a lot like Jonathan Drouin.

 

[Heldig]

I’ve been thinking a lot about Jonathan Drouin. One of my favorite junior players ever. He was being praised this year for improving his play away from the puck and his work rate. Then, suddenly, he’s LTIR for a “Personal LOA” and neither the team nor the player provide any comment at any point. It has been reported that his teammates have stayed in touch and were texting him along the way during their Cinderella Cup run. There’s been a lot of speculation that he’s struggling with the market and his issue may be geographical in nature.

He’s a guy with an unbelievable amount of untapped talent. He’s got some issues apparently. I thought about him when we hired Tourigny. I wonder if he’s the guy who can get through to Drouin and be the guy who finally gets the most out of him. I would guess the acquisition cost is about zero.

IF it is done as a cap dump move for the Habs (ie very cheap or being paid to take his contract) I am all for adding talent. the team needs more talent.

 

[rt]

I think if you were to build a player who is basically the exact opposite of what Bill Armstrong wants, that player would look a lot like Jonathan Drouin.

But that’s not who he was in Junior. I’m talking all-around reclamation project.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

If the Yotes aren't going to go with the competitive route next couple of seasons, I'm with ducky on taking him as a cap dump or something. His contract is 5.5 mil per year and he scored 2 goals last season in 44 games as a winger.

If the Yotes are looking to be competitive... idk if I'd go with him, personally.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

I’ve been thinking a lot about Jonathan Drouin. One of my favorite junior players ever. He was being praised this year for improving his play away from the puck and his work rate. Then, suddenly, he’s LTIR for a “Personal LOA” and neither the team nor the player provide any comment at any point. It has been reported that his teammates have stayed in touch and were texting him along the way during their Cinderella Cup run. There’s been a lot of speculation that he’s struggling with the market and his issue may be geographical in nature.

He’s a guy with an unbelievable amount of untapped talent. He’s got some issues apparently. I thought about him when we hired Tourigny. I wonder if he’s the guy who can get through to Drouin and be the guy who finally gets the most out of him. I would guess the acquisition cost is about zero.

I think this forum would explode having another soft small winger in the top 6. I like the idea but not for our team.

If we get him, trade Schmaltz+Keller+ for a legit 1C then sure. But not with the current roster make up.