COVID-19 Part III

[RememberTheRoar]

It was a joke.

Ya, but it’s not a funny one anymore. The fighting and hyper polarization in the U.S. is hurting this country.

As a Canadian, I get it’s not your problem and it’s easier to sit back and laugh at the U.S.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Exactly. As much as the GOP tries to spin Biden as a "socialist" he is not anywhere close to a Sanders or a Warren in his policy beliefs. The fact is he is as right-wing as you'll find in a Liberal politician. I'd like to think many American people will acknowledge that and vote accordingly.

Biden and Romney are closer to each other on a lot of policy than either are to the far wings of their respective parties.

A Biden presidency will give traditional/moderate conservatives a seat at the table. That doesn’t mean all their desires will be met, but they’ll at least be heard and have influence again.

 

[BobbyJet]

Ya, but it’s not a funny one anymore. The fighting and hyper polarization in the U.S. is hurting this country.

The hostility in the U.S. is at an all-time high, at least in our generation, and it is worrisome.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Ya, but it’s not a funny one anymore. The fighting and hyper polarization in the U.S. is hurting this country.

As a Canadian, I get it’s not your problem and it’s easier to sit back and laugh at the U.S.

I get it, it's only funny when you make jokes about the right these days.

 

[ChiHawks10]

what???? So Dems haven’t gone far left? Bernies platform of a 10-15 trillion everything is ‘free’ program isn’t nutty far left? The green plan isn’t far left? I could go on. I hope you open your eyes to it. Because there are anti Trump republicans just as there are Dems going right due to the candidates and platform. You need to open your eyes a bit. I have voted for probably 55% R and 45% D. Voted for Franken, Clinton, Obama,Klobuchar, Smith in Iowa when I was young just off the top of my head. I really despise voters who vote based on Party and not platform. Lowest f***ing denominator voter.

WTF are you talking about? I never said there aren't Dems that have gone far left. There are lots of Dems that have swung to the extremes on the left. I was simply commenting towards the right... because that's what I wanted to comment on. I know a few Never-Trumper Republicans, and lots of Republicans who have changed sides due to this nut job, but I don't know any Democrats that have switched to the right... Not a single one, and a huge chunk of the people around me are Democrats. I also know that there are a LOT of Republicans in government who have shown their true colors, and have just fallen in line with Trump, and haven't had the balls to stand up for what Republicans used to be. Far more than any Democrats that are falling over to the Bernie platform.

And I hope you're not implying that I vote based upon party and not platform? That's the farthest f***ing thing from the truth. I don't even associate with a party.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Exactly. As much as the GOP tries to spin Biden as a "socialist" he is not anywhere close to a Sanders or a Warren in his policy beliefs. The fact is he is as right-wing as you'll find in a Liberal politician. I'd like to think many American people will acknowledge that and vote accordingly.

Yeah, he's a fairly conservative Democrat.

 

[BobbyJet]

Biden and Romney are closer to each other on a lot of policy than either are to the far wings of their respective parties.

A Biden presidency will give traditional/moderate conservatives a seat at the table. That doesn’t mean all their desires will be met, but they’ll at least be heard and have influence again.

My wife works for a U.S. firm and speaks with Americans across the country every day. She is shocked at how many she speaks to who downplay the virus or call it a hoax and in some cases runs across folks who think Trump is doing just fine. She thinks he may just get back in.

 

[ploppsdman]

a. Column (1) contains observations from the full sample – 1,332 shootings between 2000 and 2015. Forty-six percent of officer-involved shootings in our data are blacks, thirty percent are Hispanic, and twenty-four percent are other with the majority in that category being whites. Given the spate of video evidence on police shootings – all of which are of blacks – it is a bit surprising that they are less than half of the observations in the data.

Media stoked frenzy is what it is.

Can you help me understand something. The study that you posted is indicating there is a racial bias in non-lethal use of force.

While that study does not indicate a racial bias for lethal force, the NIH study does.

I think it’s reasonable to conclude that there is a racial issue that needs to be addressed. Do you consider that to be media driven or reality?

 

[BobbyJet]

And I hope you're not implying that I vote based upon party and not platform? That's the farthest f***ing thing from the truth. I don't even associate with a party.

Re: the bolded. I think his point was that far too many folks do exactly that ... and it is how the country got into this pickle in the first place.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Re: the bolded. I think his point was that far too many folks do exactly that ... and it is how the country got into this pickle in the first place.

I mean, he pretty much lit into me unwarranted for no f***ing reason. So I'm assuming he was saying I'm a party line voter.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

what???? So Dems haven’t gone far left? Bernies platform of a 10-15 trillion everything is ‘free’ program isn’t nutty far left? The green plan isn’t far left? I could go on. I hope you open your eyes to it. Because there are anti Trump republicans just as there are Dems going right due to the candidates and platform. You need to open your eyes a bit. I have voted for probably 55% R and 45% D. Voted for Franken, Clinton, Obama,Klobuchar, Smith in Iowa when I was young just off the top of my head. I really despise voters who vote based on Party and not platform. Lowest f***ing denominator voter.

It's really not.
All of the stuff that Bernie Sanders wants is common in every other western democracy. What's nutty is that we DON'T have those things.

Was Franklin Roosevelt a left wing nutjob?

Is the UK a communist country? Germany?
GTFO.

When compared to the other industrialized democracies of the world the US is so far right it isn't funny. People claim Bernie Sanders and AOC are radical leftists, but they're not. They call themselves democratic socialists, but in the 21st century that means FDR/German/Nordic style capitalism. They only call themselves that to identify themselves as an alternative to laissez-faire capitalism that the GOP and even the moderate Dems champion.

In the UK and Germany, calling the Democratic party center-right would be generous.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Un f***ing real. Ignoring for a second that over 5 million people would die, he doesn’t understand herd-immunity and is talking about it on national television. Leader of the free world, people! November 4th can’t get here fast enough.

 

[Putt Pirate]

WTF are you talking about? I never said there aren't Dems that have gone far left. There are lots of Dems that have swung to the extremes on the left. I was simply commenting towards the right... because that's what I wanted to comment on. I know a few Never-Trumper Republicans, and lots of Republicans who have changed sides due to this nut job, but I don't know any Democrats that have switched to the right... Not a single one, and a huge chunk of the people around me are Democrats. I also know that there are a LOT of Republicans in government who have shown their true colors, and have just fallen in line with Trump, and haven't had the balls to stand up for what Republicans used to be. Far more than any Democrats that are falling over to the Bernie platform.

And I hope you're not implying that I vote based upon party and not platform? That's the farthest f***ing thing from the truth. I don't even associate with a party.

Who was the last Republican you voted for?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Un f***ing real. Ignoring for a second that over 5 million people would die, he doesn’t understand herd-immunity and is talking about it on national television. Leader of the free world, people! November 4th can’t get here fast enough.

That death rate is inflated...If its as contagious as they say the denominator is way larger than reported...there is no model out there near 5 million deaths in any scenario...

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I get it, it's only funny when you make jokes about the right these days.

It’s not. That’s my point.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

The virus has been the same for months now despite the media narrative of 'superspreader' events, 'just wait two weeks', etc...

 

[RememberTheRoar]

My wife works for a U.S. firm and speaks with Americans across the country every day. She is shocked at how many she speaks to who downplay the virus or call it a hoax and in some cases runs across folks who think Trump is doing just fine. She thinks he may just get back in.

Statistically speaking, 40-45 percent of people in the U.S. like him. So depending on the industry, she’s going to come across a Trump supporter a little less than every other person she speaks to.

My friends say the same thing and reference similar anecdotes, but it’s really not surprising.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Who was the last Republican you voted for?

I'm 35 years old. I've only been able to vote in 4 Presidential election cycles. Bush's 2nd term, Obama's two terms, and 2016. I've voted Democrat in all four of those election cycles, because I've felt the Republican candidates weren't the direction we needed to go. Bush was an idiot. Obama was the better candidate both terms, IMO, but I wouldn't have really minded that much if either McCain or Romney had won. And I didn't vote Hillary or Trump in 2016 because I couldn't stand either of them, I wrote in John Wick the Democrat. That's not to say I'd be opposed to voting for a Republican. You can find record of me stating that if Romney were running right now, I'd vote for him over Biden and Trump, AINEC.

 

[x Tame Impala]

That death rate is inflated...If its as contagious as they say the denominator is way larger than reported...there is no model out there near 5 million deaths in any scenario...

Isn’t it just...

-baseline herd-immunity for species group in high density populations is roughly 60%

-the ~3% death rate of the necessary 60% of US population is about 5 million people

I didn’t double check the math but what’re you saying about inflated-death rate?

 

[Hawkaholic]

It’s not. That’s my point.

Maybe not to you specifically. Personally I like jokes, from both sides. I like laughing.

 

[x Tame Impala]

The virus has been the same for months now despite the media narrative of 'superspreader' events, 'just wait two weeks', etc...
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I’ve read a few reports and articles suggesting that as soon as the weather gets worse and people can’t be outside then the numbers will jump back up. NOT in a “the heat kills the virus!” way, but more so because being out in the open air makes it harder for the virus to spread as opposed to in a confined space.

Also, in my uneducated and unsubstantiated opinion, that people being outside more and being more active through boosts your Vit D levels and your overall immunity to viruses.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Who was the last Republican you voted for?

I know it wasn’t directed at me, but I’d probably vote for Romney over Biden right now.

Not voting for Romney in ‘16 doesn’t mean I’d never vote for a moderate republican, so this is kind of a pointless question.

Also, I liked Romney, I liked McCain. I just liked Obama more at the time, it doesn’t mean the Romney and McCain types can’t win.

Going to Trump was an overreaction by the Republican Party, they had good candidates the previous two elections, and either of those candidates would’ve won in ‘16 IMO.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I’ve read a few reports and articles suggesting that as soon as the weather gets worse and people can’t be outside then the numbers will jump back up. NOT in a “the heat kills the virus!” way, but more so because being out in the open air makes it harder for the virus to spread as opposed to in a confined space.

Also, in my uneducated and unsubstantiated opinion, that people being outside more and being more active through boosts your Vit D levels and your overall immunity to viruses.

Yeah, they should be hammering out "take your vitamins" in the MSM come cold season.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Isn’t it just...

-baseline herd-immunity for species group in high density populations is roughly 60%

-the ~3% death rate of the necessary 60% of US population is about 5 million people

I didn’t double check the math but what’re you saying about inflated-death rate?

I'm saying total cases is quite likely higher than the denominator used to calculate that death rate...

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Maybe not to you specifically. Personally I like jokes, from both sides. I like laughing.

Things are getting serious over politics and people are actually getting hurt. Laugh at Americans all you want, just not sure why you’re surprised we’re not laughing with you.