OT: Coronavirus XXIV: The Shit Has Hit the Fan in Europe Again :(

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Little Fury

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We'll they're no longer communist like under Mao. They've moved away from a planned market. But thats why I called them modern day fascists like the Nazi's. How are they any different? Big on Nationalism, big on military spending, the appearance of a free market with government owning several of the major corporations, persecuting a subsection of the population in concentration camps. What did I miss?
Sounds like the USA tbh.
 
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422 on 9300 tests.
 

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So far it's okay. Hard to manage rosters in cohort as we just finished a 6 game segment with 4 injuries which is tough when you only have access to 16 guys and guys work shiftwork.

No infections that we are aware of, but we've had guys voluntarily sit out if a family member had symptoms pre-test or in one case a player was working with someone who tested positive but wasn't in close contact so he sat out to be safe. Some teams are being a little cavalier about their actions, but the league is trying to hit us with a lot of communication on the matter to ensure no one can claim they didn't know.

For the dressing room they have made it mandatory in most of the rinks, but how can they enforce that without multiple people hanging out in the dressing room invading people's privacy.

The way I look at it once you are in the dressing room you're only around guys that you are going to be breathing heavy with on the bench inches away from them in the next hour or two anyways which is where you're really at the highest risk of catching it. The exception to this is in the event you bring an emergency goalie into the group then you'd want to limit exposure with the extra guy who may be in another cohort.

That's great. Good to hear the organizers are taking it seriously.
 
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McGoMcD

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I don't think so. China isn't even communist (I missed the part where Soviet Russia had Star Wars movies and McDonalds and Sony Walkmans and Air Jordans and Louis Vuitton, this is like a porn star saying they're a virgin) by any realistic metric.

They are if anything a hyper-capitalist authoritarian state, but the West does business with a lot of those countries as is (hello Saudi Arabia).

Ya, I would describe them as very rare in history. They are like Chile and South Korea before they became democratic. That is a rare form of authoritarian capitalism. It never lasts, I have faith it won't last here either. They are in the twilight of dictatorship. It is scarry to see, but people have too much freedom there now. Not near the freedom we have, of course, but too much to put back into the jar after opening. They will transition to democracy, I just hope it is peaceful.

As for them being like NAZI's, ya, I mean sure. I just find that term has no meaning anymore. The left and right both abuse the term. So sure, do they have accepts of it? yes, every society does. I think we need to retire comparing everyone to the NAZI's. the term is so overused it is now meaningless.
 

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Nah, you've jumped to many conclusions here and made many assumptions.

Calling out "Appeal to academia" arguments isn't a suggestion that academic institutions are inherently bad sources of information. It's pointing out that just because somebody has attained a certain standing or made certain achievements, doesn't mean they should be immune to the same scrutiny we'd have of others. I'm sure we've all heard the "I'll take the word of the guy who went to Harvard over the guy who didn't" types of things in our day to day lives.

My rebuttal was fine. you may want to work on your wording, and frustrations about academia, and so that you don't make it appear that you are rejecting it, dispelling it. Without realizing it you made an argument AGAINST academia, what it represents to you, and to the extent that you indicated how frustrated you were with it. That is a dangerous opinion, and its illogical. I mean you can further going there I guess, if you want, and preferring other types of information other than scientific, but I would caution against it.

Now that said I don't actually think your post was all that good or even accurately expressed what you would think about information. probably it was just a frustrated post in which you misstated some things. In anycase your add on information contained in this post is different than what could be ascertained from the post I originally replied to.

But this is also why we should state information, and our opinion, or are beliefs or what we feel to be knowledge, empirical truths more carefully than we tend to do, this applying to all of us.

ftr this is the post by you, that I had replied to;


This just sounds like more "appeal to academia" argument. Institutes of so-called higher education are famous for encouraging group think and ostracizing professors and/or researchers who promote views contrary to the officially sanctioned ones. Maybe I'm off base, but these veiled notions that all us plebs just need to shut up and listen to the university-educated enlightened is growing tiresome.
 
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Ya, I would describe them as very rare in history. They are like Chile and South Korea before they became democratic. That is a rare form of authoritarian capitalism. It never lasts, I have faith it won't last here either. They are in the twilight of dictatorship. It is scarry to see, but people have too much freedom there now. Not near the freedom we have, of course, but too much to put back into the jar after opening. They will transition to democracy, I just hope it is peaceful.

As for them being like NAZI's, ya, I mean sure. I just find that term has no meaning anymore. The left and right both abuse the term. So sure, do they have accepts of it? yes, every society does. I think we need to retire comparing everyone to the NAZI's. the term is so overused it is now meaningless.

Every situation is different, just as the US is different from previous imperialistic powers like Britan and Rome in that they just like the to interfere overseas but don't have the stomach to actually occupy for years on end.

China wants regional control but don't really seem all that interested or care that much at all if any other country adopts any kind of philosophy, they don't really seem to care about that.

The Nazi comparison is fair if you're running basically concentration camps.
 

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If by "booming" you mean "entering a recession." The US entered a recession in February 2020.
I guess u didn’t check leading up to that. The country was booming and u pick one month. So you are saying country was going for a recession. It’s hard to keep up that pace. Just to let u know, if Covid had not have hit, the economy would have picked back up again.
I like how you picked a month and say we are in a recession. If the GDP goes below the previous month, they call it a recession. It’s hard to keep up the pace the way he had the economy booming. I’ll tell ya what. Come back on here in 2 months and see how Sleepy Joe has the country running. It won’t be a recession, it will be closer to a depression. Hello China, cmon in , Joe is here
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Every situation is different, just as the US is different from previous imperialistic powers like Britan and Rome in that they just like the to interfere overseas but don't have the stomach to actually occupy for years on end.

China wants regional control but don't really seem all that interested or care that much at all if any other country adopts any kind of philosophy, they don't really seem to care about that.

The Nazi comparison is fair if you're running basically concentration camps.

Which the Chinese are... they also unlawfully interfering in Hong Kong. These are two MAJOR international issues.
 

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The Epoch Times is a right wing disinformation op. Wouldn't surprise me if it was run out of Langeley.
Lol at the utter lack of self awareness among those who shriek ‘conspiracy theory’ when someone posts information they don’t like ... and then come up with stuff like this.
 
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Little Fury

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Lol at the utter lack of self awareness among those who shriek ‘conspiracy theory’ when someone posts information they don’t like ... and then come up with stuff like this.

look you can just say you never heard of it, it’s ok.
 

Little Fury

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I guess u didn’t check leading up to that. The country was booming and u pick one month. So you are saying country was going for a recession. It’s hard to keep up that pace. Just to let u know, if Covid had not have hit, the economy would have picked back up again.
I like how you picked a month and say we are in a recession. If the GDP goes below the previous month, they call it a recession. It’s hard to keep up the pace the way he had the economy booming. I’ll tell ya what. Come back on here in 2 months and see how Sleepy Joe has the country running. It won’t be a recession, it will be closer to a depression. Hello China, cmon in , Joe is hereView attachment 374547


The stock market is not the economy and the US GDP was basically flat for the entirety of Trumps term.
 

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I guess u didn’t check leading up to that. The country was booming and u pick one month. So you are saying country was going for a recession. It’s hard to keep up that pace. Just to let u know, if Covid had not have hit, the economy would have picked back up again.
I like how you picked a month and say we are in a recession. If the GDP goes below the previous month, they call it a recession. It’s hard to keep up the pace the way he had the economy booming. I’ll tell ya what. Come back on here in 2 months and see how Sleepy Joe has the country running. It won’t be a recession, it will be closer to a depression. Hello China, cmon in , Joe is hereView attachment 374547

Is Sleepy Joe a brand of decaf coffee?
 

Oilers in NS

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The stock market is not the economy and the US GDP was basically flat for the entirety of Trumps term.
His unemployment numbers were very low, the stock market was booming. Sure sounds like a good economy to me.
If I were in the US , I’d be voting for him
 
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TIME: Why does chaos reign now?
Li: Of course there is not just one reason. The biggest cause of society's change today is that people no longer believe in orthodox religion. They go to church, but they no longer believe in God. They feel free to do anything. The second reason is that since the beginning of this century, aliens have begun to invade the human mind and its ideology and culture.

TIME: Where do they come from?
Li: The aliens come from other planets. The names that I use for these planets are different . Some are from dimensions that human beings have not yet discovered. The key is how they have corrupted mankind. Everyone knows that from the beginning until now, there has never been a development of culture like today. Although it has been several thousand years, it has never been like now.

Falun Gong founder. Epoch Times is run by Falun Gong.

Solid source material. :popcorn:
 
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