Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Ryder71]

Demanding is very good when it saves lives.

I agree, so we shouldn't protest until AFTER the pandemic has subsided.

 

[The Old Master]

Delete.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Humanity was a mistake.

*walks away*

 

[Andy99]

asking is good. demanding is bad. i would love to get into it in more depth but i'm trying not to get banned.

Demanding? The government could make it a crime, let alone “demand.” It’s a crime to refuse to take a breath test for a DUI investigation in some states and the US Supreme Court said that was fine in 2016 (Birchfield). It’s a crime to ingest drugs that can affect your unborn baby in some states. You can be fined and cited for smoking in an airport bathroom...you might want to live in a country that can’t do that, but the reality is that it does...and in all sorts of ways that are much more invasive than wearing a removable mask in public during a narrow set of circumstances...

 

[Fordy]

checking the daily deaths in florida, texas, california, and arizona shows either no increase from their full lockdown baseline in the latter 3, or an increase of about 10ish per day in arizona. we certainly haven't seen an increase here, or in the state as a whole. honestly, almost no one in the city is dying of this. i don't know why these things don't matter to people. the doctors say the virus is weakening and we have better treatments, and we have ample evidence to support that. spending all day every day worrying and anticipating doom isn't good for your health either

people should just remind themselves that 75% of new cases are in 6 counties in the country, and it will work its way through there and then shift elsewhere, then the media will jump to the new locations, and so on. but the death rate is clearly no where near where it was in march and april or what some people thought it was in february. honestly, i barely spare a thought to worrying about this anymore

 

[Jacob]

So still around 10% positive test rate. Not great not terrible.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

In the past week almost 100 people have died of COVID-19 in the small state of South Carolina.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

I agree, so we shouldn't protest until AFTER the pandemic has subsided.

We’ve been over this. Repeatedly. Protesting hasn’t shown to contribute to spikes. They’re outside and largely wearing masks.

Here’s yet another study saying so.

Black Lives Matter Protests, Social Distancing, and COVID-19

 

[EightyOne]

We’ve been over this. Repeatedly. Protesting hasn’t shown to contribute to spikes. They’re outside and largely wearing masks.

Here’s yet another study saying so.

Black Lives Matter Protests, Social Distancing, and COVID-19

I thought they were referring to a more concept protesting about our freedoms being encroached by mask mandates?

Like...stop bitching about fabric face coverings

 

[Ryder71]

We’ve been over this. Repeatedly. Protesting hasn’t shown to contribute to spikes. They’re outside and largely wearing masks.

Here’s yet another study saying so.

Black Lives Matter Protests, Social Distancing, and COVID-19

Not everyone is wearing masks in those protests. Even so masks aren't full proof to begin with. And as we also know minorities are more harshly affected by the virus. Data and the impact of these actions sometimes lags behind. So we may not conclusively know just how much it could impact these communities and individuals for quite some time. If we're suppose to social distance and considering how contagious this virus appears to be, gathering in large groups, yelling and screaming seems counter intuitive during such a crisis/pandemic. Better to wait until after the pandemic. We need to apply common sense here.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

The majority are masked and they’re outside. There’s zero evidence they’ve been what’s caused any spike. Gnashing teeth about protests is simply a false narrative that needs to die. It doesn’t fit your view but it’s not a problem of any significance when it comes to massive spread of the virus.

 

[Jacob]

Gentlemen, what's up with these temperatures? Like 90s for the last few days and for the next week too?

 

[Ryder71]

If the CDC guidelines are to social distance and wear masks, and some in that crowd aren't doing so, again, that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense in mitigating the spread of the virus.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

Gentlemen, what's up with these temperatures? Like 90s for the last few days and for the next week too?

Welcome to my life from like May until October.

 

[ColePens]

Humanity was a mistake.

*walks away*

Lol so many times in my life i have thought that to be true. Including myself.

 

[ColePens]

checking the daily deaths in florida, texas, california, and arizona shows either no increase from their full lockdown baseline in the latter 3, or an increase of about 10ish per day in arizona. we certainly haven't seen an increase here, or in the state as a whole. honestly, almost no one in the city is dying of this. i don't know why these things don't matter to people. the doctors say the virus is weakening and we have better treatments, and we have ample evidence to support that. spending all day every day worrying and anticipating doom isn't good for your health either

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people should just remind themselves that 75% of new cases are in 6 counties in the country, and it will work its way through there and then shift elsewhere, then the media will jump to the new locations, and so on. but the death rate is clearly no where near where it was in march and april or what some people thought it was in february. honestly, i barely spare a thought to worrying about this anymore

Ill just state this as i would to everyone. If this virus isn't a concern to you, that is your opinion. You have the right to your opinion. But also you dont need to be in a coronavirus thread if it doesn't. And then it makes it easier so you won't have to see the constant panic.

So if it doesn't make you worried nor, as you say, you wont spare a thought on it... this thread is no longer for you. You can ignore the thread.

 

[The Old Master]

Demanding? The government could make it a crime, let alone “demand.” It’s a crime to refuse to take a breath test for a DUI investigation in some states and the US Supreme Court said that was fine in 2016 (Birchfield). It’s a crime to ingest drugs that can affect your unborn baby in some states. You can be fined and cited for smoking in an airport bathroom...you might want to live in a country that can’t do that, but the reality is that it does...and in all sorts of ways that are much more invasive than wearing a removable mask in public during a narrow set of circumstances...

i agree. it shows how far we have fallen, and deep the swamp is, and how much we need new judges.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

From the “No shit” department

 

[Ogrezilla]

Gentlemen, what's up with these temperatures? Like 90s for the last few days and for the next week too?

I went running at 8 this morning and it was already 80. Ugh.

 

[Ogrezilla]

 

[Jacob]

Welcome to my life from like May until October.

Yeah but I don’t deserve to be miserable.

 

[Andy99]

i agree. it shows how far we have fallen, and deep the swamp is, and how much we need new judges.

But it still doesn’t explain why wearing a mask in public is a hill you want to die on...when there are so many worse invasions the government perpetrates all the time, as you’ve just acknowledged...if your beef is with governmental authority for all kinds of regulations, it shouldn’t be with your friends, family and neighbors...the mask is for them, a common courtesy...it’s widely accepted that it has some benefit to protect other people from your germs...that local and state governments have to mandate mask wearing just shows how selfish and stupid many people in this country are (many public officials don’t want to mandate and don’t even enforce it but they feel compelled to because of the public health crisis stupid selfish people are contributing to)

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

Yeah but I don’t deserve to be miserable.

 

[The Old Master]

But it still doesn’t explain why wearing a mask in public is a hill you want to die on...when there are so many worse invasions the government perpetrates all the time, as you’ve just acknowledged...if your beef is with governmental authority for all kinds of regulations, it shouldn’t be with your friends, family and neighbors...the mask is for them, a common courtesy...it’s widely accepted that it has some benefit to protect other people from your germs...that local and state governments have to mandate mask wearing just shows how selfish and stupid many people in this country are (many public officials don’t want to mandate and don’t even enforce it but they feel compelled to because of the public health crisis stupid selfish people are contributing to)

andy i have worked in hospitals and in other places where there are other nasty stuff. i know what the minimum ppe's one needs to wear. anyone who tells you wearing a sloppy rag that you just pulled out of your pocket, over your nose and mouth (and reusing it over and over again) is good enough is lying though there teeth. i not only would be fired on the spot. i would be banned from ever working there again. you would need to not only be required to wear a properly fitted mask that was made just for a certain purpose you would need to be wearing a full suit (with booties/ face shield and something over the head. not only that but they had to keep a negative air pressure in the room. and when you came out
you stripet, and showered. to get back you needed to get all fresh ppe,s nothing was reused. i could go on but i'm tired of typing but your a smart guy i'm sure you get the point.