Player Discussion Connor McDavid Part VII: Hart, Ross & Lindsay Winner | 100 Points In 53 Games!

[bellagiobob]

 

[AddyTheWrath]

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mean I think he'll win, but I don't know, the PHWA tends to "get clever" about this stuff, plus their myopic and lazy.

 

[Sanchez]

Did they purposely not have Leon on here because he should be.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

I mean I think he'll win, but I don't know, the PHWA tends to "get clever" about this stuff, plus their myopic and lazy.

He'll win, but I'm anticipating a surprising amount of first place votes to the other two because of some PHWA writers as you mentioned who seem to either like to make awards voting about themselves to get clicks and justify their pay cheques, or some only follow their own teams and are super-biased.

Also McDavid had 24 EV goals and 68 EV points which was more than everybody had total points except Draisaitl, and Marchand who had 69 points. Mackinnon had 20 goals and 65 points total (although in 8 fewer games) with 40 of those points at even strength. If you extrapolate out for a full season for Mackinnon that's 23 goals and 76 points. Mattews meanwhile had 53 EV points including 31 EV goals, and prorated would have had 71 points in 56 games. Anyways, the point is McDavid obliterated the league at evens and on the PP.

Points:
1. McDavid - 56GP - 33G - 105P
2. Draisaitl - 56GP - 31G - 84P
3. Marchand - 53GP - 29G - 69P
4. Marner - 55GP - 20G - 67P
5. Kane - 56GP - 15G - 66P
6. Rantanen - 52GP - 30G - 66P
7. Matthews - 52GP - 41G - 65P
8. Mackinnon - 48GP - 20G - 65P

EV Points:
1. McDavid - 56GP - 24G - 68P
2. Matthews - 52GP - 31G - 53P
3. Marner - 20G - 51P
4. Draisaitl - 15G - 51P
5. Scheifele - 56GP - 17G - 46P
6. Marchand - 53GP - 21G - 44P
7. Kane - 56GP - 12G - 44P
12. Mackinnon - 48GP - 12G - 40P

Goals:
1. Matthews - 41G
2. McDavid - 33G
3. Debrincat - 32G
4. Draisaitl - 31G
5. Rantanen - 30G
6. Marchand - 29G
7. Toffoli - 28G
8. Kaprizov - 27G
T30. Mackinnon - 20G

Game Winning Goals
1. Matthews - 12G
2. McDavid - 11G
T-3. Draisaitl - 8G
T-3. Landeskog - 8G
T-3. Stone - 8G
T-6. Rantanen - 7G
T-13. Ovechkin - 6G
T-19. Marchand - 5G
T-19. Crosby - 5G
T-19. Marner - 5G
T-107. Mackinnon - 2G

 

[Nostradumbass]

Did they purposely not have Leon on here because he should be.

I think it’s just tough to argue 2 guys from the same team are the most valuable to their team. If Leon is maybe the most valuable to his team, then why is Connor on the list? And vice versa.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He'll win, but I'm anticipating a surprising amount of first place votes to the other two because of some PHWA writers as you mentioned who seem to either like to make awards voting about themselves to get clicks and justify their pay cheques, or some only follow their own teams and are super-biased.

If he doesn't win, the PWHA will probably need to be disbanded and whatever comes in it's wake will have strongly review membership.

 

[Sanchez]

I think it’s just tough to argue 2 guys from the same team are the most valuable to their team. If Leon is maybe the most valuable to his team, then why is Connor on the list? And vice versa.

That makes a lot of sense.

 

[SDig14]

That makes a lot of sense.

It does. Until you see Marner had more points than Matthews and Rantanen mote points than MacKinnon this year.

The guy who got snubbed here is Marchand IMO. Should have been likely McDavid, Marchand and anyone else with McDavid winning unanimously.

 

[Sanchez]

It does. Until you see Marner had more points than Matthews and Rantanen mote points than MacKinnon this year.

The guy who got snubbed here is Marchand IMO. Should have been likely McDavid, Marchand and anyone else with McDavid winning unanimously.

That is a valid.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

So NHL.com lists all of the award finalists alphabetically for all of the awards in the articles on their site.
MacKinnon, Matthews, McDavid named Hart Trophy finalists

For the Hart trophy Sportsnet listed McDavid first, presumably because McDavid is the frontrunner.
McDavid, Matthews, MacKinnon named finalists for Hart Trophy - Sportsnet.ca

The Toronto Sports Network unsurprisingly lists Matthews first in their Hart trophy article headline. Anybody thinking this is anything other than purely intentional hasn't been paying attention.
Auston Matthews, Connor McDavid, Nathan MacKinnon named Hart Memorial finalists - TSN.ca

 

[McTonyBrar]

Matthews... MATTHEWS!?!?!?!

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

So NHL.com lists all of the award finalists alphabetically for all of the awards in the articles on their site.
MacKinnon, Matthews, McDavid named Hart Trophy finalists

For the Hart trophy Sportsnet listed McDavid first, presumably because McDavid is the frontrunner.
McDavid, Matthews, MacKinnon named finalists for Hart Trophy - Sportsnet.ca

The Toronto Sports Network unsurprisingly lists Matthews first in their Hart trophy article headline. Anybody thinking this is anything other than purely intentional hasn't been paying attention.
Auston Matthews, Connor McDavid, Nathan MacKinnon named Hart Memorial finalists - TSN.ca

Nope not surprised nor bothered by it personally. Bell owns TSN, which is the regional Leafers broadcaster and also shares a majority stake in the team. The GTA audience drives TSN's profitability. The list is still McDavid and two consolation runners up regardless of order.

 

[Spawn]

McDavid will win it running away. There might be a small handful of writers who try to be clever or edgy with their vote. But it will be as close to unanimous as it gets.

 

[McAsuno]

McDavid's winning it. Could care less as its expected that some clowns from the East will vote for nostrils anyways.

 

[McGoMcD]

Not only should McDavid win but he should get 100% of first place votes, this isn't even close.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

McDavid was in on 57.38 percent of Edmonton’s 183 total goals, the highest percentage in NHL history. That's a mic drop statistic. If McDavid wasn't the winner on 100% of ballots it would be kind of ridiculous. Yet that's what I'm expecting based on previous experience.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Nathan Who? And Where's Austin (must have been so high they couldn't include him)

 

[Chabot84]

He'll win, but I'm anticipating a surprising amount of first place votes to the other two because of some PHWA writers as you mentioned who seem to either like to make awards voting about themselves to get clicks and justify their pay cheques, or some only follow their own teams and are super-biased.

Also McDavid had 24 EV goals and 68 EV points which was more than everybody had total points except Draisaitl, and Marchand who had 69 points. Mackinnon had 20 goals and 65 points total (although in 8 fewer games) with 40 of those points at even strength. If you extrapolate out for a full season for Mackinnon that's 23 goals and 76 points. Mattews meanwhile had 53 EV points including 31 EV goals, and prorated would have had 71 points in 56 games. Anyways, the point is McDavid obliterated the league at evens and on the PP.

Points:
1. McDavid - 56GP - 33G - 105P
2. Draisaitl - 56GP - 31G - 84P
3. Marchand - 53GP - 29G - 69P
4. Marner - 55GP - 20G - 67P
5. Kane - 56GP - 15G - 66P
6. Rantanen - 52GP - 30G - 66P
7. Matthews - 52GP - 41G - 65P
8. Mackinnon - 48GP - 20G - 65P

EV Points:
1. McDavid - 56GP - 24G - 68P
2. Matthews - 52GP - 31G - 53P
3. Marner - 20G - 51P
4. Draisaitl - 15G - 51P
5. Scheifele - 56GP - 17G - 46P
6. Marchand - 53GP - 21G - 44P
7. Kane - 56GP - 12G - 44P
12. Mackinnon - 48GP - 12G - 40P

Goals:
1. Matthews - 41G
2. McDavid - 33G
3. Debrincat - 32G
4. Draisaitl - 31G
5. Rantanen - 30G
6. Marchand - 29G
7. Toffoli - 28G
8. Kaprizov - 27G
T30. Mackinnon - 20G

Game Winning Goals
1. Matthews - 12G
2. McDavid - 11G
T-3. Draisaitl - 8G
T-3. Landeskog - 8G
T-3. Stone - 8G
T-6. Rantanen - 7G
T-13. Ovechkin - 6G
T-19. Marchand - 5G
T-19. Crosby - 5G
T-19. Marner - 5G
T-107. Mackinnon - 2G

This goes to show you though the lack of PP in the playoffs is really not helping us out at all. PP is prob the only reason we even make the playoffs

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Announced tomorrow. I wonder if they found a way to not give it to McDavid.

 

[McAsuno]

Announced tomorrow. I wonder if they found a way to not give it to McDavid.

Everybody knows some Eastern hacks will vote for Nostrils, but McDavid should be the undisputed Hart winner AINEC.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Lol, the NHL Awards show is a half hour time slot on NBCSN tucked between Meecum Auto Auctions and a Tour de France - Stage 4 replay.

 

[Frank the Tank]

McDavid is now a 3-time Ted Lindsay Award winner.

Presented by the defending champ and his close friend Draisaitl was a nice touch.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

McDavid is now a 3-time Ted Lindsay Award winner.

That will go up I'm sure.

Still half expecting the writers to "outsmart" the players here.

 

[Frank the Tank]

And McDavid wins his 2nd Hart Trophy. Draisaitl presents again.

Davo and Leo have good on-air chemistry too.