Player Discussion Connor McDavid Part V: Super Sophomore

[The Batman]

4 more games to get "just" 6 points! I really think he can hit 100+

 

[Bryanbryoil]

How sweet would it be if he can get to 30 goals and 100 points by seasons end?

 

[McAsuno]

How sweet would it be if he can get to 30 goals and 100 points by seasons end?

Considering its Connor McDavid, its very doable.

 

[McGoMcD]

I was looking at his numbers compared to Gretz, Mario, Sid. Can't compare numbers, but comparing position in the scoring race, Connor is right on pace with all of them. He is 1st in scoring his 19 year old season. Gretz tied for first, MArio was second to Gretz (so sort of an excuse there). Sid finished just ahed of Joe Thornton. Any way, he is doing as good or better than these guys, pretty unreal.

 

[McHilman]

McD with 65 assists

Ovi with 66 points
Tavares with 66 points
Matthews 66 points

 

[Sup]

Mcdavid.. honestly were so blessed

 

[TheNumber4]

McD with 65 assists

Ovi with 66 points
Tavares with 66 points
Matthews 66 points

Good god. These kind of wacky stats are usually only reserved for Gretz. MVP is amazing.

 

[Laineux]

I was looking at his numbers compared to Gretz, Mario, Sid. Can't compare numbers, but comparing position in the scoring race, Connor is right on pace with all of them. He is 1st in scoring his 19 year old season. Gretz tied for first, MArio was second to Gretz (so sort of an excuse there). Sid finished just ahed of Joe Thornton. Any way, he is doing as good or better than these guys, pretty unreal.

He'll never have Gretzky like domination over his peers, as that is probably completely impossible in the modern league. But he will be by far the best player of his generation. A better talent than Crosby was in my opinion.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I'll say it again. This kid is winning a cup, probably multiple. He just has it in him.

 

[TheNumber4]

I'll say it again. This kid is winning a cup, probably multiple. He just has it in him.

Can't see how a player of his calibre won't win a cup or 2 or 3. It'd be unheard of for a generational talent not to.

 

[jukon]

Assuming the NHL will even participate in the Olympics, I bet Team Canada is upset that neither of his wingers are Canadian.

 

[McShogun99]

Assuming the NHL will even participate in the Olympics, I bet Team Canada is upset that neither of his wingers are Canadian.

I think Crosby and Mcdavid end up on the same line during the Olympics.

 

[MoneyGuy]

I was looking at his numbers compared to Gretz, Mario, Sid. Can't compare numbers, but comparing position in the scoring race, Connor is right on pace with all of them. He is 1st in scoring his 19 year old season. Gretz tied for first, MArio was second to Gretz (so sort of an excuse there). Sid finished just ahed of Joe Thornton. Any way, he is doing as good or better than these guys, pretty unreal.

Yeah he's leading the league but you can't ignore Gretz's total domination in saying he's done as well or better than the others you compare him to. McDavid is looking likely to win the scoring title by a few points; Gretz crushed the competition.

 

[Faelko]

Can't see how a player of his calibre won't win a cup or 2 or 3. It'd be unheard of for a generational talent not to.

This will be Chia's biggest test, to find quality 2nd and 3rd line players to support McDavid and stay within the cap.

Ovechkin is the only "generational" player as of late not to win...yet.

 

[soothsayer]

Yeah he's leading the league but you can't ignore Gretz's total domination in saying he's done as well or better than the others you compare him to. McDavid is looking likely to win the scoring title by a few points; Gretz crushed the competition.

That's fair to an extent. It should be born in mind, though, that in today's NHL, literally everyone plays at an exceptionally high caliber. The talent gap among players has closed considerably since Gretzky's days, and it continues to close. So the "dominance over his peers" argument used in favor of Gretzky's greatness is no longer entirely apt.

 

[MoneyGuy]

That's fair to an extent. It should be born in mind, though, that in today's NHL, literally everyone plays at an exceptionally high caliber. The talent gap among players has closed considerably since Gretzky's days, and it continues to close. So the "dominance over his peers" argument used in favor of Gretzky's greatness is no longer entirely apt.

The talent gap has closed, which proves my point. It's because there is no one like Gretz today.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

The talent gap has closed, which proves my point. It's because there is no one like Gretz today.

With the way goal tending and defensive systems are Gretzky wouldn't be Gretzky in today's game. Don't care who thinks otherwise. Nutrition and modern equipment and training wouldn't make up for that either.

 

[McSpecial DraiBlend]

I love how much he has elevated his play down the stretch. Almost like he was pacing himself mid season like a vet would.

 

[Aceboogie]

I love how much he has elevated his play down the stretch. Almost like he was pacing himself mid season like a vet would.

This is a major thing for him. Got that killer instinct. A top player is facing us and doing well? McDavid has the drive to outshine him and out play him. Happened when Pittsburgh came here recently, happened last night

Probably game of the season and he gets a point on ALL our goals. Down the stretch hes been near 2 ppg

 

[MoneyGuy]

With the way goal tending and defensive systems are Gretzky wouldn't be Gretzky in today's game. Don't care who thinks otherwise. Nutrition and modern equipment and training wouldn't make up for that either.

I agree. That's doesn't invalidate my point.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I agree. That's doesn't invalidate my point.

Disagree.

Give Gretzky a composite stick, instead of a tree, and he scores way more goals.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Disagree.
Give Gretzky a composite stick, instead of a tree, and he scores way more goals.

More than 92 goals? Ok.

 

[oXo Cube]

Dreger admitted on the radio this morning that McDavid is the MVP

Guess he was serious about that 10 point gap.

 

[nightfighter]

Dreger admitted on the radio this morning that McDavid is the MVP

Guess he was serious about that 10 point gap.

Pandering to local media once again.

 

[Cloned]

The talent gap has closed, which proves my point. It's because there is no one like Gretz today.

I guess the other way to look at it would be if you put McDavid back in 1980 even with a tree for a stick and less training/nutrition, he'd probably put up 300 points. No joke.

Those goalies would let in goals on probably 3 out of every 5 McDavid rushes with that speed and stick handling.