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Didn't see this posted, what is it with dudes coming to us from the Panthers and injuries?
Agree with you on that deal but I have no problems trading 1st round picks for young guys with term like Kapanen and players like that.
You might say we have no prospect pool but for the last three seasons the Pens have added 3 nice top 4 defensman (2019 Pettersson 22, 2020 Marino 22, and POJ 21). Not many teams can say they added 3 prospects like that on defense 3 years in a row and that is just on defense. Doesn't matter if you draft the prospects or trade for them as long as you get them. At forward the team added (2019 McCann 22 and Blueger 24, ZAR 24, 2020 Lafferty 24, 2021 Kapanen 24, O'Connor 22). At goal we added (2020 Jarry 24) So while most of our prospects didn't come from our drafts we have added half our lineup in prospects that came up on our team at 24 or younger at the time of promotion or trade.
All this talk about mortgaging our future like some say on here is a bunch of crap. Not only have we added all these young players in the past 3 years but we also traded picks and prospects for players in their primes over the years such as Kessel, Hagelin, Zucker, and others. I do believe the way Rutherford used picks and prospects for young players or players in primes with term is almost always a win trade when evaluating it 5 years later when those picks and prospects don't come close to the value of the players traded for. When you can add more than half your team in players 24 or younger when joining the team in the last 3 years you are doing pretty well in the prospect game.
OH NO!!! Matheson injured again? how are we going to survive?
OH NO!!! Matheson injured again? how are we going to survive?
You can look up prospect pool rankings from basically anywhere and they all have the Pens are the same spot -- last. If you get lucky, you'll find some that rank us 30th instead of 31st. We have no prospect pool -- they've all been traded away, as well as our draft picks. Our two earliest picks in 2018 (Calen Addison, Filip Hallander) were both traded with 1st rounders for Kapanen and Zucker respectively -- overpayments for both; a little more tolerable with Kapanen given his age. Our top pick the year before was Zachary Lauzon, who's retired due to severe concussion issues. The year before that was Filip Gustavsson, who was part of the Derick Brassard trade (Ian Cole + Filip Gustavsson + 1st + 3rd for Brassard). We also have with no 1st, 3rd, 4th, or 6th round picks for the 2021 entry draft.
The kicker to all this is that we haven't really gotten younger. Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are all in their mid-30s now. Zucker, Tanev, Rust, and Dumoulin are all pushing 30 as well. Our "young" guys are all in their mid-20s and entering their prime years, but it's not going to do anything because our star power is fading and we've got absolutely nothing to replace them with. The moment Crosby and/or Malkin are done, it's going to become almost unbearable -- we don't even have potential top 6 Cs in the system, and trying to replace them via trade or free agency is going to come with a big price tag.
He's better than Czuczman not that that's a high bar
Yes, they will suck when 87 and 71 retire. I hope they do so they can build a new core of potential superstars. I don't want them becoming the Flyers.You can look up prospect pool rankings from basically anywhere and they all have the Pens are the same spot -- last. If you get lucky, you'll find some that rank us 30th instead of 31st. We have no prospect pool -- they've all been traded away, as well as our draft picks. Our two earliest picks in 2018 (Calen Addison, Filip Hallander) were both traded with 1st rounders for Kapanen and Zucker respectively -- overpayments for both; a little more tolerable with Kapanen given his age. Our top pick the year before was Zachary Lauzon, who's retired due to severe concussion issues. The year before that was Filip Gustavsson, who was part of the Derick Brassard trade (Ian Cole + Filip Gustavsson + 1st + 3rd for Brassard). We also have with no 1st, 3rd, 4th, or 6th round picks for the 2021 entry draft.
The kicker to all this is that we haven't really gotten younger. Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are all in their mid-30s now. Zucker, Tanev, Rust, and Dumoulin are all pushing 30 as well. Our "young" guys are all in their mid-20s and entering their prime years, but it's not going to do anything because our star power is fading and we've got absolutely nothing to replace them with. The moment Crosby and/or Malkin are done, it's going to become almost unbearable -- we don't even have potential top 6 Cs in the system, and trying to replace them via trade or free agency is going to come with a big price tag.
Yes, they will suck when 87 and 71 retire. I hope they do so they can build a new core of potential superstars. I don't want them becoming the Flyers.
PLAYER | TYPE OF INJURY | DURATION | STATUS | UPDATED |
---|---|---|---|---|
Zach Aston-Reese | Shoulder | day to day | Skated with 3rd line at morning skate 2/10 | 2/10/21 |
Zach Trotman | Right Knee | 4-6 weeks from 1/15 | Recovering from surgery, was placed on season opening IR 1/12 | 1/28/21 |
Marcus Pettersson | UBI 1/19 | week to week | Non contact during 2/10 morning skate | 2/10/21 |
Juuso Riikola | UBI 1/19 | long term | Placed on LTIR 1/28 retro 1/19, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Evan Rodrigues | LBI 1/24 | long term | Placed on LTIR 1/28 retro 1/24, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Brian Dumoulin | LBI 1/26 | week to week | Placed on LTIR 2/1 retro 1/26, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Jared McCann | LBI 2/6 | week to week | Downgraded from day to day 2/9 to week to week 2/10 | 2/10/21 |
PLAYER | TYPE OF INJURY | DURATION | STATUS | UPDATED |
---|---|---|---|---|
Zach Trotman | Right Knee | 4-6 weeks from 1/15 | Recovering from surgery, was placed on season opening IR 1/12 | 1/28/21 |
Marcus Pettersson | UBI 1/19 | week to week | Non contact during 2/10 morning skate | 2/10/21 |
Juuso Riikola | UBI 1/19 | long term | Placed on LTIR 1/28 retro 1/19, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Evan Rodrigues | LBI 1/24 | long term | Placed on LTIR 1/28 retro 1/24, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Brian Dumoulin | LBI 1/26 | week to week | Placed on LTIR 2/1 retro 1/26, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Jared McCann | LBI 2/6 | week to week | Downgraded from day to day 2/9 to week to week 2/10 | 2/10/21 |
PLAYER | TYPE OF INJURY | DURATION | STATUS | UPDATED |
---|---|---|---|---|
Zach Trotman | Right Knee | 4-6 weeks from 1/15 | Recovering from surgery, was placed on season opening IR 1/12 | 1/28/21 |
Marcus Pettersson | UBI 1/19 | day to day | Morning skate 2/16, game time decision | 2/16/21 |
Juuso Riikola | UBI 1/19 | long term | Placed on LTIR 1/28 retro 1/19, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Evan Rodrigues | LBI 1/24 | long term | Placed on LTIR 1/28 retro 1/24, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Brian Dumoulin | LBI 1/26 | week to week | Placed on LTIR 2/1 retro 1/26, going through off-ice rehab | 2/8/21 |
Jared McCann | LBI 2/6 | week to week | Downgraded from day to day 2/9 to week to week 2/10 | 2/10/21 |
Casey Desmith | Illness 2/14 | day to day | Participated in morning skate 2/16, should be backup tonight | 2/16/21 |
Petts look back tonight. Now who is the question as to pairings. POJ needs moved into to less exposure pairing so:
Petts Letang
Math Marino
POJ Cici
The lines were POJ - Letang - MM - Petts Ceci.
PLAYER | TYPE OF INJURY | DURATION | STATUS | UPDATED |
---|---|---|---|---|
Zach Trotman | Right Knee | 4-6 weeks from 1/15 | Recovering from surgery, was placed on season opening IR 1/12 | 1/28/21 |
Juuso Riikola | UBI 1/19 | week to week | Skating with taxi squad 2/18 | 2/18/21 |
Evan Rodrigues | LBI 1/24 | week to week | Solo skating 2/18 | 2/18/21 |
Brian Dumoulin | LBI 1/26 | week to week | Solo skating 2/18 | 2/18/21 |
Jared McCann | LBI 2/6 | week to week | Solo skating 2/18 | 2/18/21 |
still good for giving up dozen of high quality chances....We are about to have one heck of a logjam on D.
POJ - Letang
Pettersson - Marino
Matheson - Ceci
Dumoulin - Ruhwedel
Riikola - Weber
Something's gotta give. Subtracting Weber is pretty simple. I think one more has to go though, and all those guys would likely be lost to waivers.
We are about to have one heck of a logjam on D.
POJ - Letang
Pettersson - Marino
Matheson - Ceci
Dumoulin - Ruhwedel
Riikola - Weber
Something's gotta give. Subtracting Weber is pretty simple. I think one more has to go though, and all those guys would likely be lost to waivers.
You can look up prospect pool rankings from basically anywhere and they all have the Pens are the same spot -- last. If you get lucky, you'll find some that rank us 30th instead of 31st. We have no prospect pool -- they've all been traded away, as well as our draft picks. Our two earliest picks in 2018 (Calen Addison, Filip Hallander) were both traded with 1st rounders for Kapanen and Zucker respectively -- overpayments for both; a little more tolerable with Kapanen given his age. Our top pick the year before was Zachary Lauzon, who's retired due to severe concussion issues. The year before that was Filip Gustavsson, who was part of the Derick Brassard trade (Ian Cole + Filip Gustavsson + 1st + 3rd for Brassard). We also have with no 1st, 3rd, 4th, or 6th round picks for the 2021 entry draft.
The kicker to all this is that we haven't really gotten younger. Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are all in their mid-30s now. Zucker, Tanev, Rust, and Dumoulin are all pushing 30 as well. Our "young" guys are all in their mid-20s and entering their prime years, but it's not going to do anything because our star power is fading and we've got absolutely nothing to replace them with. The moment Crosby and/or Malkin are done, it's going to become almost unbearable -- we don't even have potential top 6 Cs in the system, and trying to replace them via trade or free agency is going to come with a big price tag.