Seravalli: Columbus engaged in trade talks to move defenseman

[Johnsie19]

I think Peeke is probably worth a 2nd, Boqvist a first or maybe two 2nds instead, and then whatever 500k might be worth, maybe a 3rd?

Oof I am going to have to push back quite vehemently on this. Peeke was one of the worst defensemen in the league last yr and he's owed what 2.75 for 3 more yrs? That is without question a negative asset on paper. Boqvist is a decent offensive defenseman but has not much interest in the defensive side of the game so it's hard to know if he even is a top 4 d man. He is worth maybe a 2nd at this point I would think.

 

[Viqsi]

Oof I am going to have to push back quite vehemently on this. Peeke was one of the worst defensemen in the league last yr

...just like Gavrikov, right? Which was why he was a terrible terrible pickup for any deadline team and sure to be absoultely terrible everywhere, right?

Someday, people are going to clue in on the fact that advanced stats disproportionately make defensemen on bad teams look bad.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

...just like Gavrikov, right? Which was why he was a terrible terrible pickup for any deadline team and sure to be absoultely terrible everywhere, right?

Someday, people are going to clue in on the fact that advanced stats disproportionately make defensemen on bad teams look bad.

Is Peeke comparable to Gavrikov? Only asking because I saw a good bit of Gavrikov in the 1st round last season.

 

[Napoli]

Is Peeke comparable to Gavrikov? Only asking because I saw a good bit of Gavrikov in the 1st round last season.

Gavrikov is/was always miles better than Peeke.

 

[PensandCaps]

...just like Gavrikov, right? Which was why he was a terrible terrible pickup for any deadline team and sure to be absoultely terrible everywhere, right?

Someday, people are going to clue in on the fact that advanced stats disproportionately make defensemen on bad teams look bad.

Well, Except Gavrikov has multiple years playing good physical top 4 hockey.

Can't say the same for Peeke, who seems to be a dime dozen bottom pair Dman.

Boqvist isn't worth much either, but has some value if used correctly. Definitely not getting 1st for any of these guys though.

Also, I always thought Gav was worth what he got from the Kings, so i don't understand how that is comparable. Gavrikov was highly valued by a lot of fans for years.

 

[Viqsi]

Is Peeke comparable to Gavrikov? Only asking because I saw a good bit of Gavrikov in the 1st round last season.

Mostly in the sense that advanced stats don't tell the whole story. He's not nearly as well-rounded; he can do fine in his own zone but he's not good at puck handling at all.

 

[Viqsi]

Well, Except Gavrikov has multiple years playing good physical top 4 hockey.

Can't say the same for Peeke, who seems to be a dime dozen bottom pair Dman.

Boqvist isn't worth much either, but has some value if used correctly. Definitely not getting 1st for any of these guys though.

Also, I always thought Gav was worth what he got from the Kings, so i don't understand how that is comparable. Gavrikov was highly valued by a lot of fans for years.

That was more a reaction to the whole "advanced stats say bad therefore bad" conceit rather than a full on comparison. Peeke isn't a right-handed Gavrikov; he has some severe limitations. He's more of a #4-5 guy who needs to work alongside someone who can actually pass the puck.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

That was more a reaction to the whole "advanced stats say bad therefore bad" conceit rather than a full on comparison. Peeke isn't a right-handed Gavrikov; he has some severe limitations. He's more of a #4-5 guy who needs to work alongside someone who can actually pass the puck.

Thanks for this.

Edmonton, at least in my IMO, needs to be targeting a guy that can play with Nurse. Since Nurse is primarily a rusher (and is a pretty poor passer) his ideal partner needs to have that skillset. Doesn't sound like Peeke is our guy.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If Vancouver is going to stick with the Hughes/Hronek pairing, I’d have almost zero interest in Peeke.

 

[MoeBartoli]

If Vancouver is going to stick with the Hughes/Hronek pairing, I’d have almost zero interest in Peeke.

I am a Jackets fan and have zero interest in Peeke

 

[sting101]

Peeke is behind Gudbranson on the depth chart. Let that sink in Nucks fans.

 

[Hobnobs]

So who is Jackets actually gonna trade? Bean, Severson and Gudbrandsen seems like the only defensemen worth keeping tbh.

Provorov was great last night, for the wings.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Peeke is behind Gudbranson on the depth chart. Let that sink in Nucks fans.

more of a "we can't scratch this guy with $12m left on his deal" thing than a "he is better than andrew peeke" thing.

 

[stevo61]

more of a "we can't scratch this guy with $12m left on his deal" thing than a "he is better than andrew peeke" thing.

Gudbranson hasnt been an issue so far in the early season. Part of it is role but he's playing more like he should

 

[Curufinwe]

It's important not to overlook the fact that CBJ made a great pick taking Jiricek at #6. That could be one the Flyers really regret. Just look at the resources Philly has expended on acquiring RHD over the past few years.

Gudas for Niskanen (who was very good, but retired after one season)

2nd and a 3rd for Braun (who was pretty good, but was already old)

Patrick and Myers for Ellis (who played 4 games before going on LITRetirement)

14th overall + 39th overall + Hagg for Risto (who is crap and signed for four more years at $5.1m)

101st overall + 71st overall + 2024 2nd for DeAngelo (who was a defensive disaster and got bought out after one year)

 

[Fogelhund]

Boy, have I got a great deal for you. For one unwanted Andrew Peeke, I'd be willing to trade to you, a player who played C, with great success last year. Over 900 Faceoffs, 53% in the dot and put up over 50 points last year. Now Columbus REALLY needs Centers, that much is for sure... I mean Laine has taken the second most faceoffs.... This really is a unique opportunity to address a franchise need, with a wonderful player. Act now for this limited time offer.

 

[squashmaple]

Boy, have I got a great deal for you. For one unwanted Andrew Peeke, I'd be willing to trade to you, a player who played C, with great success last year. Over 900 Faceoffs, 53% in the dot and put up over 50 points last year. Now Columbus REALLY needs Centers, that much is for sure... I mean Laine has taken the second most faceoffs.... This really is a unique opportunity to address a franchise need, with a wonderful player. Act now for this limited time offer.

Been there, done that, traded him for literally nothing.

 

[Fogelhund]

Been there, done that, traded him for literally nothing.

But... but... this is a player who has grown tremendously since then... and by that, I mean he can see over the counter at McDonald's now. Seriously though, he really was a fantastic C last year, and you really could use that. I'd even throw in a free voucher for Tim Horton's.

 

[squashmaple]

But... but... this is a player who has grown tremendously since then... and by that, I mean he can see over the counter at McDonald's now. Seriously though, he really was a fantastic C last year, and you really could use that. I'd even throw in a free voucher for Tim Horton's.

Nah. No refunds or takebacks.

 

[Qward]

Chabot out 4-6 weeks
Zub - who knows
Brannstom.......might be a looong while

Expect a call from Dorion.

 

[ottawagm]

Kubalik or Joseph for Peeke

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Chabot out 4-6 weeks
Zub - who knows
Brannstom.......might be a looong while

Expect a call from Dorion.

don't call the flames till after us lol

 

[dumbdick]

Yep. Kubalik for Peeke, please.

Sens defensive depth sucks and we can't ice an NHL defence right now with three guys down. Jackets can move kubalik at the deadline for assets.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

-41.

Sweet baby jesus.

 

[Qward]

-41.

Sweet baby jesus.

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