UncleRisto
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Okay. Started on a heater, now losing constantly in embarrassing fashion to both good and bad teams. That's fine. Everything is fine.
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The Kingslayer
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You can add Toews to that list and Bo. Now you got 5/6 of the Avs d playing below standards. Hell you can even make a case for Makar playing under his abilities. I also agree with the goaltending but its a sensitive thing. Georgiev had problems sharing the crease with Shesterkin. He will have major problems being second fiddle to Prosvetov even though right now its warranted a bit until he can be trusted again.
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Yeah ERod is the one I couldn’t remember, and they all have more points than the Avs new guys, but it’s not just about points. It’s about being a team and this isn’t a team right now. This is like that new beer league team you put together where no one knows each other
Out scoring two fourth liners and a guy known for his laziness coming off a major injury isn't a difficult task.
Is Toews really playing that poorly? I’m not getting that impression. It’s Cale who’s not at all himself right now, more than likely due to injury.
The Kingslayer
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Defensively hes been fine but we can both agree this team relies on him to do more then just defend.
John Mandalorian
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Ryan Johanson has 1 pt 5v5 in 12 GP. And this is a guy whose former team is paying half his salary to play against them. You’d think someone would have some professional pride at some point. But no. Not with this guy.
Between CMac and Bednar, who vouched for him?
Between CMac and Bednar, who vouched for him?
dahrougem2
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It is starting to feel like the Avs lost what makes their team so special. This feels eerily similar to the offseason of 2014 when they loaded up on "veteran leadership" instead of keeping with the speed/skill and things got bad really fast.
This to me looks like they swung waaaayyyy too far to the "physicality/size" pendulum over the last two offseasons with Manson re-signing, Colton, Wood, and Johansen.
The team has quite clearly lost skill and east/west speed in exchange for "beefiness", north/south speed and whatever it is Johansen does.
This could get real ugly, real fast if they don't figure it out. But this does not look like the Avs teams of the last 5 seasons.
This to me looks like they swung waaaayyyy too far to the "physicality/size" pendulum over the last two offseasons with Manson re-signing, Colton, Wood, and Johansen.
The team has quite clearly lost skill and east/west speed in exchange for "beefiness", north/south speed and whatever it is Johansen does.
This could get real ugly, real fast if they don't figure it out. But this does not look like the Avs teams of the last 5 seasons.
Eh, offensively I think he’s doing fine as well. Again, it’s Makar who looks like he’s skating on one leg right now.
The Kingslayer
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1 goal 4 assists in 13 games is doing fine? My standards for a Top 10 Dman are a little higher I guess. Makar on one leg is a PPG player still. I expect more from Toews offensively especially with that contract now. This team has relied on the defense for years to be the secondary scoring. They arent getting much of that from anyone other than Makar right now.
Bingo.
A bad team thought the best use of their money in a league where most teams are hitting the cap is to pay 4 million for Ryjo not to play for them.
He's come exactly as advertised.
John Mandalorian
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The Kingslayer
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Yah you really cant be upset at RyJo. Preds knew he sucked, Kessler knows he sucks, he knows he sucks and most of us knew he sucked too. This is expected. You can say the same for Drouin and Tatar.
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Was supposed to set my alarm clock for the game, but apparently I forgot and slept past the game. Good thing I did.
Well, if they dont, it wont be end of the world. Just another season without Cup. We cut them loose at the end of season and try our luck again with someone else. Our core is still great, even if they had bunch of shit games lately.
forsbergavs32
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Plus it’s still early, about 70 games left in the season and no one is exactly running away with the central. They have time to figure it out.
I’ll preface this by saying they’re obviously not the same teams but the 00-01 Avs didn’t have a good start to their season and ended up alright.
It hasn’t been a good start but I’m not quite ready to write off this season yet. Let’s see if guys can step up during some adversity, hopefully this is rock bottom.
UncleRisto
Not Great, Bob!
Yeah, thing I find interesting is we actually did have a good start. Start was great. So... what's uhhh going on?
forsbergavs32
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I mean, it was a good start in the standings but the team looked off then too, just the last week and a half the wheels came off and the mistakes cost them. Tonight they had a good stretch to start and got scored on from an unlucky bounce, then hit 2 posts and couldn’t beat Binnington. After the 2nd and 3rd goals they just kind of quit.
UncleRisto
Not Great, Bob!
Yeah, didn't look great inside games but still won seven.
It's becoming concerning how bad we are
Those guys did nothing in playoffs. Definitely not the answer either.
