GDT: Colorado Avalanche vs Anaheim Ducks: Flying aVs Edition

[Metallo]

I have issues with that last line. The Avs were the better team overall tonight. When you hit 7 posts in a game 2 in OT its just unlucky. What burns my ass is that the Ducks best dman were all out.

I agree that that last line is sentionalism. The Avs were the better team most of the game but not enough considering they faced a weak team on a b2b and missing their top 4. They were unlucky but they should not have left the game to luck.

 

[Metallo]

As I said earlier, I'm not blaming Jost for the loss. He had a great chance in OT and whiffed on a rolling puck. It happens all the time to players, but seemingly never against an Avs opponent if they find themselves with a glorious chance in the dying seconds of OT. They bury it, and the Avs get saddled with yet another OT loss. And yeah, I'm proud as hell of the Avs for staying on the heels of the Blues all season long, and playing their best, most tenacious hockey with an injury-riddled lineup. But man oh man, I'm getting real tired of this team throwing away points in OT which are there for the taking, and which would give them home ice advantage thru the playoffs. Granted, OT is usually a coin toss--even for the worst teams, but not the Avs. They just don't know how to win 3 on 3. Even if they get breakaways & point blank shots, they just CANNOT break thru this mental impediment of flubbing up in OT that has cursed them for several seasons now. And it's gonna burn 'em come playoff time in a game 7 in Dallas or St. Louis. Mark my words.

Ridiculous, playoff OT has nothing to do with season OT. Avs are great 5vs5 this does not worry me one bit.

 

[missionAvs]

Shooting the puck at a bad angle and missing the net is one of the worst things you can do in OT, it's exactly what led to our '2 on 0'.

If there's anyone people should be complaining about, it should be Girard. Blows a complete 2 on 0 by going solo, and trying to block a shot from the blue line with 2 seconds left which directly resulted in a goal.

With regards to the bolded, how do you figure? This is where awareness comes into play honestly. Jost puts the puck on net on his last chance and stops up right in front of Miller and that's game, we're going to SO. I'm not even pinning this loss on Jost but that wasn't good puck management at the end. He himself admitted as much after the game. Nevertheless, moving on to the next I guess.

 

[Sudden Nordique]

Hey Fellas, long time lurker, first time poster. LONG time lurker in the sense that I remember posters like "Grandlund2Pulkinen" or whatever.. Hopefully some of you remember..

Anyway, I typically come here due to the fact that i'm a long time Avs fan and always enjoy the differing perspectives from all of you, the posters. As a rabid Avs fan, reading our GTD's is pretty much dessert for myself after the game. That being said, you guys drive me bonkers with posts like this.. This year especially. This fan base is unbelievably critical of it's team and players to the point of it being unbearable (so much so that I created a darn account to address it haha.)

In what world do a lot of you live in where you're actually going to sit here and be hyper critical of how a rolling puck was handled on ice that had already been played on for 64 minutes? The whole "what level of hockey did you play" thing is an annoying and sometimes egotistical thing to bring up but is also sometimes warranted.. This kind of stuff happens ALL of the time in hockey regardless of the player and I guarantee that there isn't a single person in that locker room that is placing the blame on that play specifically. In response to the poster that I am quoting, when a puck is rolling like that you almost always try to get on top of the puck while on your forehand. If you've played hockey at all, you know exactly what i'm talking about. Jost clearly tries to do that and that the puck keeps rolling on him.. It's a game of bounces and in that high speed, high pressure situation the puck just didn't settle down for him. To sit here and act like he did anything wrong there is absurd. He could have just as easily opted to to rip a shot on that rolling puck and it go wide. Again, it's hockey, regardless of the skill level we're sometimes at the mercy of inches and bounces (see Rickard's goal.)

All in all, love you fellas. But for the love of God, we're talking about our beloved team that went from making the playoffs on the final game of the season the last two years to being two points way from being atop the western conference in a season where we were absolutely decimated by injuries.

Can we hop off of our high horses a little bit and enjoy it?

Cheers!

Please stop lurking. You are my new favourite poster.

 

[Metallo]

This is the definition of easier said than done. Players have trouble handling pucks that won't settle all the time, and nobody blames them.

Now why would that be different with Tyson Jost?

For the record I’m not blaming Jost for that play or the lost. I’m just saying he could have done better in settling or protecting the puck. I’m happy that he’s playing better lately and I hope he keeps it up. Rooting for him because he’s a good dude.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

You guys need to learn about hockey. This is embarrassing.

Go back and watch the hilites.

Oh, well at least you could care less, that's good to know.

Man, you're so cool for that.

Pfffft, come on Risto. Learn the game of hockey would ya! Or at least watch the hilites

 

[UncleRisto]

Pfffft, come on Risto. Learn the game of hockey would ya! Or at least watch the hilites

For the record, I don't think I know the game of hockey particularly well.

 

[Metallo]

Anyone worried about the lack of push back by the Avs, specially on home ice. Bellemare tried but almost got injured. Others were MIA, looking at you Z, EJ, Cole, Graves, Mack, Nuke, etc. Landy was in there and Namaste was scrappy but the others...

 

[mapletreemarty]

I don't really get the Jost hate for last night either tbh. And I'm sure everyone is aware of my thoughts on Jost


On the "2 on 0" chance.... Jost was at the end of a long defensive shift. He was gassed. And Girard was full speed flying through the neutral zone all alone. Without question Jost made the right play here and in 3 on 3 OT where bad changes often cost you the game, he made the right play getting off the ice when he could.


And for the 2nd chance.... Ya you'd like to see Jost get a shot on net if nothing else, but bad ice is a thing, and sometimes other guys just make great plays. Getzlaf made a great play to get back in time and get his stick on Josts stick.


Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the other team. Miller was absolutely phenomenal, and the Avs got very unlucky in a game they certainly deserved to win. If any one of those 5-6 post shots happened to go post and in instead of post and out, we're on an 8 game winning stream now.


But that's hockey and that's why the games are actually played instead or just run in a simulation.

Jost has put up 6 points in 5 games since the trade deadline. Whatever he's doing I hope he keeps doing it. For all of his warts he's still a member of this hockey team, and he just needs to keep bringing it every night. I hope this loss doesn't deflate him where he goes into a tailspin and it crashes his confidence.

 

[mapletreemarty]

Anyone worried about the lack of push back by the Avs, specially on home ice. Bellemare tried but almost got injured. Others were MIA, looking at you Z, EJ, Cole, Graves, Mack, Nuke, etc. Landy was in there and Namaste was scrappy but the others...

I thought we pushed back pretty hard throughout the 3rd period and OT. We weren't as physical as the Ducks were, but they clogged the shit out of that neutral zone once they went up 3-2.

 

[StLAvsFan]

Ridiculous, playoff OT has nothing to do with season OT. Avs are great 5vs5 this does not worry me one bit.

I'm not equating regular season OT with playoff OT. I'm simply saying, if the Avs would stop losing 2 out of 3 OT games, they'd be in the driver's seat in this division going into the playoffs. I don't know about you, but a playoff Game 7 in St. Louis doesn't appeal to me very much. Getting to a Game 7 vs. them would be great in and of itself, but I don't see us beating them with all the chips on the table, on the road. Just my 2¢.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

I'm not equating regular season OT with playoff OT. I'm simply saying, if the Avs would stop losing 2 out of 3 OT games, they'd be in the driver's seat in this division going into OT. I don't know about you, but a playoff Game 7 in St. Louis doesn't appeal to me very much.

Really? Cuz, judging by your name, you might be able to get tickets to that game...

 

[missionAvs]

Anyone worried about the lack of push back by the Avs, specially on home ice. Bellemare tried but almost got injured. Others were MIA, looking at you Z, EJ, Cole, Graves, Mack, Nuke, etc. Landy was in there and Namaste was scrappy but the others...

Landy getting in there with a broken nose is the definition of being a boss. Makes Big Z getting pushed off the puck by absolutely anyone all the worse.

 

[Metallo]

I'm not equating regular season OT with playoff OT. I'm simply saying, if the Avs would stop losing 2 out of 3 OT games, they'd be in the driver's seat in this division going into the playoffs. I don't know about you, but a playoff Game 7 in St. Louis doesn't appeal to me very much. Getting to a Game 7 vs. them would be great in and of itself, but I don't see us beating them with all the chips on the table, on the road. Just my 2¢.

Got it. A game 7 in STL will only be in the 2nd round. Game 7 are a toss up, things like injury, confidence, luck and goaltending have more to do with the winner than home ice. There is a good chance it never happens. It gets on my nerve also but it’s not that big of an issue IMHO.

 

[StLAvsFan]

Really? Cuz, judging by your name, you might be able to get tickets to that game...

Funny how my "handle" bugs some people in here. For the record, I'm an Avs fan originally from St. Louis. And no, I'm not a Johnny Come Lately fan like so many in Denver are. Not sure how many of them used to go to Nordiques games like I used to, though my guess is VERY few. The Stastny's, Michel Goulet, Dale Hunter, etc...I was a huge fan of those guys back in the day. Initially I was pissed when the Nords up & left Quebec City, but I had suffered thru so many years of failure by that club, that I couldn't give up rooting for them once their rise to prominence began in a new city. So don't let my handle fool you. I'm as much of an Avs fan as most of you are. No, I don't obsess over hockey, and analyze it with a microscope, because I'm a busy person, but I follow the Avs as closely as time permits.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Funny how my "handle" bugs some people in here. For the record, I'm an Avs fan originally from St. Louis. And no, I'm not a Johnny Come Lately fan like so many in Denver are. Not sure how many of them used to go to Nordiques games like I used to, though my guess is VERY few. The Stastny's, Michel Goulet, Dale Hunter, etc...I was a huge fan of those guys back in the day. Initially I was pissed when the Nords up & left Quebec City, but I had suffered thru so many years of failure by that club, that I couldn't give up rooting for them once their rise to prominence began in a new city. So don't let my handle fool you. I'm as much of an Avs fan as most of you are. No, I don't obsess over hockey, and analyze it with a microscope, because I'm a busy person, but I follow the Avs as closely as time permits.

WHOA!

I wasn't implying anything about your fandom. Just that it seems you are an Avs fan that lives/lived in St Louis.
And that you might be able to get tickets to a game in St Louis, if you still lived there.
No offense meant...

 

[AvsFan29]

This game was a perfect example of our lack of finish. Way too many missed chances and posts hit.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Ahh the luck ran out, and the cracks started to show. I'm sooo surprised.

I'll take the MacK goal over everything. If he heats up this team may have a chance on nights like this where these clowns can't finish their way out of a wet paper bag.

Pretty impressed with the team effort and the push in the third overall.

 

[wayninja]

Lol. First time watching hockey?

Getzlaf didn't make an impressive play? Are you kidding me? Back to school kid.

The "first time watching hockey" bit never gets old. I guess I need to go back to school... where they teach hockey.

This thread reminds me how objective opinion can be.

 

[StLAvsFan]

WHOA!

I wasn't implying anything about your fandom. Just that it seems you are an Avs fan that lives/lived in St Louis.
And that you might be able to get tickets to a game in St Louis, if you still lived there.
No offense meant...

Appreciate that man. In the past I've had people accuse me of being a Blues troll, which I'm not. I've despised the Blues my entire life, including when I lived in StL. Don't like their name, their logo, their uniform, or any their players. I do respect the crap outta them though, coz they're a hard-nosed hockey team that get's after it pretty much every single game, and they work their butts off. Beating them in the playoffs would be sweet indeed, but it ain't gonna be easy, even if the Avs are completely healthy.

 

[PowerMac]

Blaming the goals mainly on Zadorov is ridiculous. He got juked on the first one but still recovered to get in front of his guy who then passed it to a player that was left wide open in front of the net, if he had his stick checked properly that wouldn't have been a goal. The second one and third one (on the PK) were on Namestikov lacking awareness and letting his man go right down the lane to shoot the puck from a prime scoring area, this is something that's been happening to us all season yet nothing has been done about it. Bednar should go blame himself for not ever making any decent adjustments.

Why do defensive sieves on the cycle like Girard and Graves get a pass while everything Zadorov does gets put under a microscope. Just look at this shit, gee I wonder if he's going to be able to win the puck and move it out of the zone lmao.

The way some people talk about how Girard's value as a d-zone exit specialist makes up for his craptacular offense you'd thinking he be juking guys left and right and skating it through clogged neutral zones but nope, whenever space is tight he's f***ing useless. He only looks good when he gets to retrieve the puck with nobody within 5 feet of him.

Girard gets pushed around in another puck battle and how the f*** is Graves still on the ice after this shit. Double standards are real.

But wait there's more! Don't forget about these beauties by Girard in OT, such a smart defensemen, not like he has consistent trouble making rudimentary 3 foot passes.

And lol at those trying to blame Jost (who was clearly gassed at the end of his shift) when Girard shoots his kerfoot muffin shot straight into the goalie's chest, at least kerfoot had placement.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

So glad we have Girard

 

[Pokecheque]

Man that had to be the most frustrating game I’ve seen in years. Avs did so much right and still came out on the losing end. They even played well in OT and still lost on a lucky last-second shot. Unreal. That said, I just didn’t have a good feeling about this game the whole time. Even as well as they were playing, something seemed very much off.

my only gripe is that I really don’t understand why we see games like this more often at home. Maybe it’s just perception but I think the home vs. road record is indicative of it. They just don’t put in the same focus and effort at home and I’m perplexed as to why. Not mad, just...confused.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Blaming the goals mainly on Zadorov is ridiculous. He got juked on the first one but still recovered to get in front of his guy who then passed it to a player that was left wide open in front of the net, if he had his stick checked properly that wouldn't have been a goal. The second one and third one (on the PK) were on Namestikov lacking awareness and letting his man go right down the lane to shoot the puck from a prime scoring area, this is something that's been happening to us all season yet nothing has been done about it. Bednar should go blame himself for not ever making any decent adjustments.

Why do defensive sieves on the cycle like Girard and Graves get a pass while everything Zadorov does gets put under a microscope. Just look at this shit, gee I wonder if he's going to be able to win the puck and move it out of the zone lmao.

The way some people talk about how Girard's value as a d-zone exit specialist makes up for his craptacular offense you'd thinking he be juking guys left and right and skating it through clogged neutral zones but nope, whenever space is tight he's f***ing useless. He only looks good when he gets to retrieve the puck with nobody within 5 feet of him.

Girard gets pushed around in another puck battle and how the f*** is Graves still on the ice after this shit. Double standards are real.

But wait there's more! Don't forget about these beauties by Girard in OT, such a smart defensemen, not like he has consistent trouble making rudimentary 3 foot passes.

And lol at those trying to blame Jost (who was clearly gassed at the end of his shift) when Girard shoots his kerfoot muffin shot straight into the goalie's chest, at least kerfoot had placement.

Zadorov doesn’t belong in the same sentence as Sam Girard.

I didn’t think Sam was great last night and Graves was pretty brutal, but largely Girard has been excellent this season.

Btw, don’t let Pierce Hawthorne see this post.

 

[PowerMac]

So glad we have Girard

I'm sure so are the ducks with his muffin shot

What's he even doing here? There's like 2 seconds left but he keeps backing off anyways to give his guy free room to shoot. SUCH A SMART PLAYER!!!