Colorado Avalanche - Great young foundation

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  1. joe dirte

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    the Avalanche have really started to build something special.

    they've already got a great young team. Starting 3-1-1 so far.

    their forward core, with Nathan Mackinnon (23 years old), Mikko Rantanen (21), Gabriel Landeskog (25), and Tyson Jost (20).

    Decent Dmen - Tyson Barrie, Erik Johnson, Nakita Zadorov, plus they've just added Samuel Girard. that's not bad.

    Plus an elite goalie in Varlamov.

    Plus Cale Makar as a great prospect on D.

    Plus 2 first round picks, one certain to be very high, thanks to the Senators. And 2 thirds as well.

    I think this is a team to keep an eye on, as well as that first round pick. They could have a very good year, and still end up adding an elite young player.
     
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    this reads like a 21 year old college grad trying to fluff up their part time retail jobs as legit work experience on their resume
     
  3. Hischier and Hughes

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    This idea of posting team specific ‘how good is ______’ threads on the main boards simply because someone else put their teams is about as elite as Varlamov

    This is probably better discussed on Colorado’s board
     
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    Honestly, having the Senators pick is insane. You guys have a good core and will more than likely get 1-2 very good players this year.
     
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    Let's start with the C word before we use the D word. :)
     
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    They have an influx of great/young Dmen,....Makar, Timmins, Girard, not the biggest Zadorov fan but he's a big physical presence back there. Barrie is only 27 too, not old by any stretch. I wonder if there's a "Hall for Larsson" type deal to bring in an impact Top 6 Forward in the future. Their Forward depth still needs some work imo. That OTT 1st should land them a good player too. They are building the team very nicely, wouldn't go dynasty yet they haven't won squat.
     
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    I'm not an Avs fan. I'm just looking at their young and improving core, prospects, and their situation with that pick going into this season, as a team already playing well, and just pointing out, they're a team to watch.

    I think they can make the playoffs this year, and still end up with an elite young player in the draft.

    I mean, you've basically got an entire top 6 locked up and young there, with a top 2 pairing d, with another elite D prospect on the way, with a goalie capable of winning the Vezina.

    And a good prospect base with a top 5 pick on the way.

    Jeez, that's damn good.
     
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    they had almost all of those same players two years ago and were the worst team in the league by far

    not saying they'll be that bad again but dynasty? cmon
     
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    Let's win a playoff series first and try to become contenders first...
     
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    Have you watched any senators games this early season? If they keep it up, you aren't getting a lot of lottery balls.
     
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    He's a Leafs fan.
     
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    As a divisional rival to the Avalance, I really hope the Senators are this years Golden Knights
     
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    I mean its okay... I wouldn't call it in the making... teams like Jets/Nash etc are going to be very tough... id put Colorado as a bubble team right now
     
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    Is it 2013?
     
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    Ahhh, is he trying to jinx the team's hot start? :laugh:
     
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    Good young team with upside.


    Ask any Avs fan and we'll tell you were excited for the future.


    But a lot of things have to go right between now and then before we can even start thinking about winning a cup. Nevermind hoping to win 2-3 in a 4-5 year span to be considered an actual dynasty level team.



    Ottawa sucking(And they're not exactly helping us here so far) would go a long way though. Getting to add a Jack Hughes, or a Kaapo Kakko to our roster for free would be a huge boost.


    We also need our good young Dmen to actually progress like they should. Makar is a legit elite prospect with the upside of being an elite #1D in the NHL. But between where he is now and that final product he has a long ways to go still to reach that level. Sam Girard is already exceeding expectations as he's essentially a top pairing Dman at just 20 years old which helps take some of the pressure off of Makar, but one or both of these guys still need to develop more to reach the level we need them to in order to have a legit chance at success.




    Long story short. Bright future and exciting times to be an Avs fan. But ask any Avs fan and we'll tell you we're a long ways away yet from those kind of Stanley cup expectations.
     
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    Forgot Kerfoot
     
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    Well that's not true at all.


    Landeskog, Mackinnon, Rantanen, Soderberg


    Johnson, Barrie, Zadorov


    And Varlamov.


    That's the only players from that team 2 years ago still on the team. The rest either joined very late in that year(Jost/Compher/Andrighetto) or have joined the team since then(Kerfoot, Calvert, Girard, etc.)


    And even including the guys who were on that team 2 years ago, Johnson missed almost half the season with injury. Varlamov missed almost the entire season. Landeskog missed 20+ games. And Rantanen was a rookie.


    We're nowhere close to that team from 2 years ago.
     
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    Can't use "dynasty" and describe the defense as decent.

    They're off to a good start to the season (through 5 games). Well done.
     
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    Why did you do this, OP? Please don't involve the Avs in your Sens bashing. Keep it in the other thread without us.
     
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    I mean, thanks. Avs fans are pretty pumped about the future but I don't see how this is main board thread worthy.
     
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    I tend to disagree.

    42% corsi For. extremely high PDO. Getting massively outchanced but have 55% GF.

    It's early, so funny things can happen, but this doesn't appear to be a team playing well and earning wins. It's a team getting massively outplayed and coming away with a few wins regardless.

    And quite frankly, it's just 7 points in 6 games. That's well under a playoff spot pace anyway.

    They'll get a great pick out of that.

    Not to mention they still have their own, which could be anywhere from 12th or 14th to 20th or so?
     
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    talking about a team building something special?

    Are there other teams you feel have been assembling something comparable?
     

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