Post-Game Talk: Cole's Plus/Minus: SHORTY AVALANCHES A WIN!!

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

late to the party, but:

I'm stoked for tanev. Early in the second I said out loud i couldn't wait for him to finally score bc he was more than due for the reward. i don't love the contract, but he has been noticeably Good every game - reminds me of hags.

I wanted to crawl through the radio and throttle Dumo and Tanger on MacKinnon's goal.

The radio isn't the same, particularly while driving through a large, heavy storm, but all game this sounded like one they a) deserved to win that b) i was half-expecting them to lose, so the end result was *chef's kiss*

Especially since i'm still heated about that game in denver last year. The *whole team* got to take the plane home after that ****show. ridiculous.

 

[JTG]

Contract is still stupid. But the player is good. Real good.

I think the contract was necessary to get a guy JR felt like the team needed to maximize the next 3-4 years of Sid and Geno's prime. I get why he did it.

 

[canadianguy77]

Im not sure I've understood the contract hate.

When its time to rebuild, we're still going to need to hit the contract floor. And a guy like Tanev will do wonders for the new crop of kids that will be learning the ropes of being a professional hockey player.

I don't want a middling team of overpriced FA signings when Geno and Letang and even Sid are done. I'd much rather suck for 3 or 4 seasons and hopefully get lucky enough to draft a new batch of superstars that will carry this team into future greatness.

 

[KIRK]

Im not sure I've understood the contract hate.

When its time to rebuild, we're still going to need to hit the contract floor. And a guy like Tanev will do wonders for the new crop of kids that will be learning the ropes of being a professional hockey player.

I don't want a middling team of overpriced FA signings when Geno and Letang and even Sid are done. I'd much rather suck for 3 or 4 seasons and hopefully get lucky enough to draft a new batch of superstars that will carry this team into future greatness.

The money was a little much, but the real objection was to the term. It's still a legit objection, but by the time it matters, the Pens will have bigger issues to deal with.

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

He did it in 2016. He did it by not screwing with what was working and giving Geno the left overs. I'm figuring Rust and Gally. I'm figuring he'll keep Jake-Sid-Simon and ZAR-Blueger-Tanev. And, I figure he'll add McCann in Kahun's place to Lafferty and Hornqvist.

THAT SAID, if you want more of the 2016 model for Geno, then it would be McCann-Geno-Rust (not unlike Kunitz-Geno-Rust).

Will be interesting to see what Sully does . . .

One other thing people like @Pancakes don't appreciate: Geno has been on the short end when it comes to not playing with a puck moving defenseman. Now, all of our pairings have one. It makes a huge difference.

EDIT: The other thing he doesn't appreciate is that Geno and Tanev were the only players bringing effort until Geno got hurt, but I digress . . .

not dinging anyone bc that sample was regrettably small, but Geno was a man on a mission right up until disaster shift. i h a t e it for him, but here's hoping he comes back even hungrier, seeing the team may be on to something. These haven't been crazy PDO wins - each one has been earned, despite some gaudy goal differentials on the road, or like they got gifted in places the last two or even three seasons. I believe in him, especially since the potential mix of players to play with him between callups and IR (trade????) looks better rn, too.

 

[Gurglesons]

Im not sure I've understood the contract hate.

When its time to rebuild, we're still going to need to hit the contract floor. And a guy like Tanev will do wonders for the new crop of kids that will be learning the ropes of being a professional hockey player.

I don't want a middling team of overpriced FA signings when Geno and Letang and even Sid are done. I'd much rather suck for 3 or 4 seasons and hopefully get lucky enough to draft a new batch of superstars that will carry this team into future greatness.

What makes you think Letang, Geno, or Sid will be done in 5 seasons?

Geno would be the only one I’d predict.

 

[JTG]

Say in the next 5 years we start a rebuild - a guy like Tanev is a 2nd round pick all day, and maybe more by that time. He'll be a 31-33 year old who has (hopefully) been productive, and will have a cap hit that has seen the cap rise at least 3 times since he signed the contract.

 

[BHD]

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