Post-Game Talk: Cole's Plus/Minus: Positive Thoughts Lead to Points!

[Le Magnifique 66]

How did my boy Teddy look?

He was solid on the fore check and had some good shifts in the offensive zone.
Smart player

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Anyone else still pumped from last night's win? Am i the only nerd out here? Show your faces.

I'm still pumped, but you're the only nerd.

 

[PensandCaps]

still want Lafferty in this lineup healthy somehow.

 

[PensandCaps]

How did my boy Teddy look?

kinda invisible lately. He definitely has more offensive ability than his stats show. but he's doing all the small things very well. The offense will come.

 

[JTG]

I'd like to see Tanev - Bjugstad - Galchenyuk as the 3rd line. I think it could do some damage. Still not the biggest Bjugstad fan, but it would help this situation out so much if he could turn into a scoring threat on the 3rd line.

Both he and Galchenyuk are packed with goal scoring potential, and I really think we could squeeze more out of Tanev too.

 

[Ryder71]

The ability to come back is the biggest thing for me in terms of entertainment and positive signs. They did it twice, in dominating fashion against two good teams.

Yep, and this one stuck.

 

[LOGiK]

With all due respect, this is the crystallization of one of the worst posts or most wrong posts I’ve ever seen .

Not saying I want to ship geno, but if there was a great return I'd seriously consider it.
Tang on the other hand - I'm done with him.

 

[LOGiK]

Even if I believed in caring too much about post-Sid, I think we've missed the window on massive payments for Tanger and Geno; the injuries, the trade restrictions, the age, the contract size - they're all factors against. Tbh, we might have missed the window for fair trade payment - most stars don't get it after all.

That said, I strongly believe we should squeeze every last drop of fun and competition out of the Sid era and see where we are afterwards.

You are probably right about the payoff and having to squeeze them for their late-prime-decline years now.

Geno I don't want out, like I just posted, I think in the same thread... I'd consider if someone over paid great assets, but Tang I would be happy to get rid of. I don't care about all the analytical crap and color pictographs people post how penguins are better with tang.... I'm just done with him personally and outside of his constant injury / freak injury prone arse he makes very dumb and questionable brain maneuvers we could do without.

We have such an opportunity in Marino and Reek that should not be squandered.
Tangs rook year he showed glowing promise and was immediately put in the spot. I feel the same way about reek and marino... these guys should be getting their chance now.

 

[Tender Rip]

Not saying I want to ship geno, but if there was a great return I'd seriously consider it.
Tang on the other hand - I'm done with him.

I think we.... are unlikely to come to a genuine understanding .

 

[vikingGoalie]

I want to say that keeping Murray in net was a pretty gutsy call from Sully, but him bouncing back mid-game is freaking huge I think. And I have to think the trust to stay in and give the team a chance had to play in to that.

true. but it's not like Jarry inspired confidence from his last outing.

 

[cygnus47]

Sid's clearly taking a bit of a step back at the moment. That will change as the season goes on. Sid - Guentz is probably the one thing we can rely on always being good at the important end of the season. JJ is doing his job being the guy that distracts the person shooting the puck in long enough for his partner to do all the hard work. We're starting to get some of those smart turnovers around the bluelines because the young D are being so decisive.

I still think we're probably handing back a goal a game by not attacking the points. That's always been the thing for me that was so different in 2016 as compared to the last couple years. That's why we go through big streaks of getting no odd-man rushes. We can get at least one extra 2 on 1 per game and put the fear of god in opponent D that way, but I think the coaches are still too scared of our guys making the wrong decisions. If Sully ends up unleashing that later in the season though, I will take back every bad thing I've said about him.

 

[canadianguy77]

Is Sid taking a step back or is he having issues with a head injury?

Over the last 3 or 4 seasons Sid takes a hit to the noggin and has trouble for 5 or so games after. Its like clockwork at this point.

Edit: And just to add I don't have dates and I don't have proof. (It's just me and my feeble mind remembering the last 5 or so years where Crosby seemed like he might have suffered a head injury in a game, and he isn't as good for 4 or 5 games after.)

If someone wants to be a detective, there are definitely references to these occasions on the GDT's of this board.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I’m so happy to rub this win in the face of @Soggy Biscuit, @Honour Over Glory and @Bingo71.

Ya’ll need to root for the team and not your silly agendas against trading Kessel, Sullivan and the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Also @Riptide and @Peat. Love you guys. Agree with you a ton, but Rust is Zuul. And @KIRK and I’s Malkin and Rust agenda has been perfect since 2016.

How anyone is disappointed in what this team
has done as a “team” is beyond me. Parts and systems need improvement. But, they are buying in which is HUGE.

Shove that up your ass.

 

[EightyOne]

3/10...not even a pineapple

Disappoint @HoG

 

[Honour Over Glory]

3/10...not even a pineapple

Disappoint @HoG

He'd enjoy that too much. His pronoun is turd.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Is Sid taking a step back or is he having issues with a head injury?

Over the last 3 or 4 seasons Sid takes a hit to the noggin and has trouble for 5 or so games after. Its like clockwork at this point.

Edit: And just to add I don't have dates and I don't have proof. (It's just me and my feeble mind remembering the last 5 or so years where Crosby seemed like he might have suffered a head injury in a game, and he isn't as good for 4 or 5 games after.)

If someone wants to be a detective, there are definitely references to these occasions on the GDT's of this board.

He has a soft head.

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

and I thought this place sucked after we lost...

 

[Honour Over Glory]

and I thought this place sucked after we lost...

That suction noise is pixels and his bedroom ceiling poster of Jack's Johnson.

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

how the hell do I unread this post?

 

[LOGiK]

lol@ the conflicts on this board. Who said entertainers are dead.

 

[Peat]

You are probably right about the payoff and having to squeeze them for their late-prime-decline years now.

Geno I don't want out, like I just posted, I think in the same thread... I'd consider if someone over paid great assets, but Tang I would be happy to get rid of. I don't care about all the analytical crap and color pictographs people post how penguins are better with tang.... I'm just done with him personally and outside of his constant injury / freak injury prone arse he makes very dumb and questionable brain maneuvers we could do without.

We have such an opportunity in Marino and Reek that should not be squandered.
Tangs rook year he showed glowing promise and was immediately put in the spot. I feel the same way about reek and marino... these guys should be getting their chance now.

Marino's currently playing only 40 seconds less a night than Letang did in his first pro year; they were both the 5th most used dman. To me, that's the level of opportunity a rookie dman should be getting unless they're a freak, because you don't want to put too much on them too early.

Letang took a big step up after that but even come the 2009/10 season - Tanger's 3rd pro season - he's still only getting the third most time at ES come the playoffs (his ice times are inflated due to huge amounts of PP time). Its not until 10/11 he's the undisputed man. So, imo, if you think Marino deserves more responsibility so he has a chance to keep following that path by the end of the season, you promote Marino to the 2nd pairing - and you don't have to lose Letang to do that.

And man, I just don't want to move Letang. Watching him shut McDavid down was incredibly satisfying.

Is Sid taking a step back or is he having issues with a head injury?

Over the last 3 or 4 seasons Sid takes a hit to the noggin and has trouble for 5 or so games after. Its like clockwork at this point.

Edit: And just to add I don't have dates and I don't have proof. (It's just me and my feeble mind remembering the last 5 or so years where Crosby seemed like he might have suffered a head injury in a game, and he isn't as good for 4 or 5 games after.)

If someone wants to be a detective, there are definitely references to these occasions on the GDT's of this board.

I don't know about the previous seasons, but the hit to the head was vs Dallas which was now 5 games ago, so he should be shaking it any moment now if this is the reason.

I do think he's taking a step back though independent of the hit to the head, he was playing in playoff mode without Geno there and he can't do that all season, but maybe it being both does explain the abrupt 60 to 0 nature of it better than just a step back.

 

[LOGiK]

Marino's currently playing only 40 seconds less a night than Letang did in his first pro year; they were both the 5th most used dman. To me, that's the level of opportunity a rookie dman should be getting unless they're a freak, because you don't want to put too much on them too early.

Letang took a big step up after that but even come the 2009/10 season - Tanger's 3rd pro season - he's still only getting the third most time at ES come the playoffs (his ice times are inflated due to huge amounts of PP time). Its not until 10/11 he's the undisputed man. So, imo, if you think Marino deserves more responsibility so he has a chance to keep following that path by the end of the season, you promote Marino to the 2nd pairing - and you don't have to lose Letang to do that.

And man, I just don't want to move Letang. Watching him shut McDavid down was incredibly satisfying.

I just don't want to see Marino and Reek sit or get sent down for extended sessions. Handled properly is the most important thing, not so much loading them with tough minutes.
And my goodness for the sake of everything holy... KEEP THEM HEALTHY!

 

[Peat]

I just don't want to see Marino and Reek sit or get sent down for extended sessions. Handled properly is the most important thing, not so much loading them with tough minutes.
And my goodness for the sake of everything holy... KEEP THEM HEALTHY!

Marino's safe already. It'd take something big for him to come out of the line up.

Riikola obviously isn't safe from that but I don't think moving Letang would change that. Riikola's problem is that they prefer JJ's PKing and physicality to his skating and offensive skills largely, I think, because the defence has a lot more of the latter than the former. Move Letang, who brings PKing and physicality as well, and they'd look for another guy who brings that so there's still no opportunity for Riikola. I think that for Riikola to get a prolonged shot then - other than injuries - you'd need to move a guy who basically brings offensive skills to the blueline and no particular physicality or PKing. Schultz in other words.

Also, I don't think its consistent to want them to be active Pens players and healthy - surely one or the other, right?

 

[Ogrezilla]

Moving Letang to make room for guys who could maybe someday if absolutely everything goes right could be near as good as Letang is about as HF as it gets.

 

[Ugene Magic]

how the hell do I unread this post?

You are in the post rectum thread. What goes in eventually has to come out.

50/50 on the contents.

Though, I think, @EightyOne is a little light on that grading. 5/10

The thing say's Bomb at the end of it...