Post-Game Talk: Cole's Plus/Minus: Pens vs. Canes - Sid delivers 3 Christmas Presents

[Empoleon8771]

Imagine we roll into the playoffs with a D of

Dumo - Letang
Pettersson - Schultz
Maatta - Riikola

Dam yum.

That...isn't a very good defense. If you can get Maatta and Schultz back to where they once were, it might be (still not sold on both Riikola and Pettersson being regulars right now), but that defense is very not good.

 

[EightyOne]

Delete. Per mod.

 

[Gurglesons]

That line-up isn’t physical enough.

Swap out Pig Pen and Franklin.

 

[WayneSid9987]

It still blows my mind how Johnson made a complete 180 degree turn as soon as the Penguins acquired Pettersson. Sure, his possession stats are still booty, but he's providing a lot right now with his shot blocking and physicality, and he hasn't been getting scored on much at all (and some of the goals against weren't at all on him or Pettersson). He can be a positive asset for the Penguins if he continues to play this way, the Penguins have a legitimately great bottom pair right now.

Much like Tanger, if he keeps things simple, he can be effective in his more limited role.
You can see the Cole-like element he can bring in a playoff series.
A tad dumber than Cole with the puck on his stick but like i said, he keeps it simple, it can work.

 

[Gurglesons]

That...isn't a very good defense. If you can get Maatta and Schultz back to where they once were, it might be (still not sold on both Riikola and Pettersson being regulars right now), but that defense is very not good.

That defense is essentially what we won a cup with in 15-16.

I know you love Jack Johnson. Stop trying to make it work.

 

[chethejet]

This was the first game in a while I felt the Pens were in control. Smart road game with a break, Sid and Geno were on PK. Get healthy and keep it moving. But Sid was the catalyst for the goals and still need to see more for others.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Okay.... I'll just leave this and get to what I should have been doing for days around here.

If I don't make it back on here before the next game 'Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.....

 

[wizmet12]

Maatta's had +2 , five hits , six block shots (leading the team on H and Bsh) tonite and people still find the way to discredit him. That's ridiculous.

 

[Nakawick]

Sid is playing at a skill level so much higher than anyone else, we are spoiled to be able to watch it all.

MM does indeed have the mojo back, but I have a hunch he needs CDS competing in order to bring out his best.

 

[Empoleon8771]

That defense is essentially what we won a cup with in 15-16.

I know you love Jack Johnson. Stop trying to make it work.

Jack Johnson is actually playing good hockey right now. Maatta hasn't been good at all this year outside of a game here and there.

I just find it odd for how hellbent you are on ****ing on Johnson. You're the only person who's actually criticizing him right now, and you're even taking it to stupid levels like saying you'd trade him for Milan Lucic.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Maybe Hartford could have given a **** when it mattered? Instead they couldn't even sell out their tiny arena.

You may be right, but the Canes doing a Whalers night is incredibly stupid. I know I'd be UBER pissed of the Avs were to do a Quebec night.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Maybe Hartford could have given a **** when it mattered? Instead they couldn't even sell out their tiny arena.

How were Pens crowds in '03-'04?

 

[froods]

Maatta's had +2 , five hits , six block shots (leading the team on H and Bsh) tonite and people still find the way to discredit him. That's ridiculous.

I think he had a really nice night, but I have no hope of seeing it consistently. If I could get this Maata every night, we would have a partner for #4

 

[Gurglesons]

Jack Johnson is actually playing good hockey right now. Maatta hasn't been good at all this year outside of a game here and there.

Okay. I think the sky is green and the moon is hollow though. So I’m right.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Maatta's had +2 , five hits , six block shots (leading the team on H and Bsh) tonite and people still find the way to discredit him. That's ridiculous.

He has been bad way more often than he has been good this season. Tonight was a good game, but that has been far from the normal for him this year.

Okay. I think the sky is green and the moon is hollow though. So I’m right.

You have an opinion that goes contrary with literally everyone else, so I don't know what to tell you. The fact that you actually said it's a no brainer to trade Johnson for Milan ****ing Lucic should be a disqualifier on your opinion of Johnson.

 

[canadianguy77]

Maybe Hartford could have given a **** when it mattered? Instead they couldn't even sell out their tiny arena.

Trading a 20 year old Pronger really doomed that franchise.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think he had a really nice night, but I have no hope of seeing it consistently. If I could get this Maata was very night, we would have a partner for #4

The whole issue with Maatta is he has to play with a player like Schultz or Riikola.

They haven’t been doing that. Oleksiak can’t move the puck.

 

[EightyOne]

Delete. Per mod.

 

[Gurglesons]

You have an opinion that goes contrary with literally everyone else, so I don't know what to tell you.

Literally everyone in the world thinks Jack Johnson is terrible aside from you and Pittsburgh media paid to think otherwise.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Well, you're biased.

I don't see the issue as long as the team franchise is the same lineage.

Like, it would have been stupid if the Thrashers had a Flames night. Lol.

Or the Avs having a Nordiques night

 

[Empoleon8771]

Literally everyone in the world thinks Jack Johnson is terrible aside from you and Pittsburgh media paid to think otherwise.

You'd have a lot more legimacy if you didn't say blatantly stupid things like this.

You didn't even watch the damn game tonight and have been saying stupid things constantly about Johnson recently. The dude has been playing really well recently. Johnson isn't even winning the poll on here for the Penguins worst defenseman, hell, he's not even in 2nd in that poll.

 

[Beau Knows]

Sid is playing at a skill level so much higher than anyone else, we are spoiled to be able to watch it all.

MM does indeed have the mojo back, but I have a hunch he needs CDS competing in order to bring out his best.

Possibly, he did play great in front of MAF. Maybe he likes a bit of competition.

 

[mpp9]

Sid ain't catching the Avs duo, but I'd like to see him get back in the top 5 scoring again. He's on a 100 pt pace again.

 

[froods]

The whole issue with Maatta is he has to play with a player like Schultz or Riikola.

They haven’t been doing that. Oleksiak can’t move the puck.

I would argue the issue with Maatta is him looking like he is skating in sand most of the time.

 

[PensandCaps]

It still blows my mind how Johnson made a complete 180 degree turn as soon as the Penguins acquired Pettersson. Sure, his possession stats are still booty, but he's providing a lot right now with his shot blocking and physicality, and he hasn't been getting scored on much at all (and some of the goals against weren't at all on him or Pettersson). He can be a positive asset for the Penguins if he continues to play this way, the Penguins have a legitimately great bottom pair right now.

Still would dump him first chance we get.