Prospect Info: Cole Caufield II (Montreal 15th overall in 2019 draft) mod warning # 560

[Andrei79]

You're right . I would add that most of the NHL players don't have an accurate shot .

Wait what ? Even fourth liners have ridiculously accurate shots.

What most dont have is the ability to use it in NHL situations.

 

[ZUKI]

It's what a lot of people are wondering. How could so many teams pass on him? We know it's his size, but with today's NHL and the growing number of smallish players having an impact on their teams, you'd think teams wouldn't hesitate. It's to Montreal's benefit in the end.



If that kid was 6'3", he'd be giving Hughes and Kakko a run for their money for the 1st overall.

it would be so funny if the guy would grow up 4-5" during the next 2 years

 

[ZUKI]

Wait what ? Even fourth liners have ridiculously accurate shots.

What most dont have is the ability to use it in NHL situations.

Really ? The only player i can remember who was able to touch the four corners of the net during the AllStars game challenge was Raymond Bourque . Most of the players over the years were happy to touch 2 of them . No , not all the players have accurate shots

 

[Mrb1p]

he has a very good and accurate wrister . He scores because of that and if the goalie protects the top corner , Cole will place the puck elsewhere

He does, but theres plenty of NHL players that have ridiculously accurate shots and they dont make this shot often. Its either you believe Cole is some special god, or that these goals are ironed out of pro goalies.

My guess is the latter.

Its not even a dig at Cole, its a dig at the goalies. Hes one of the best goalscorer to be drafted in recent years thats for sure, I was just commenting on the type of goal he scored.

 

[Mrb1p]

Really ? The only player i can remember who was able to touch the four corners of the net during the AllStars game challenge was Raymond Bourque . Most of the players over the years were happy to touch 2 of them . No , not all the players have accurate shots

Theres a player that hits 4/4 almost every year. You can check on wiki.

 

[tooji]

I think in the future we will have discussions about if caufield has one of the best shots in the league

 

[cphabs]

For anyone who thinks Caufield is ho-hum and not translatable in the NHL, read this for some perspective.

Cole Caufield: The NTDP Scoring Machine
After all, he set the NTDP record for career goals, tallying 126 over the course of his two seasons with the program. He bested the previous mark of 104, which was set by Phil Kessel (2003-05).
He shattered the single-season goals record with 72, eclipsing the previous mark of 55 which was set by Auston Matthews in 2014-15.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/26586847/caufield-tops-kessel-u18-goal-scoring-record?platform=amp

The highly-touted NHL draft prospect scored two goals in USA's 7-1 win over Latvia to run his tournament total to 11, surpassing Phil Kessel and Brett Sterling's previous record of nine goals. Caufield has appeared in just four games in the tournament. Kessel and Sterling scored nine in six and eight games, respectively.
"It's a pretty special feeling," Caufield told ESPN after the game. "Any time you get to break a record like that, it's special."
Caufield is tied with Nikita Kucherov and Ilya Kovalchuk for second for the overall single-tournament scoring record. Assuming Team USA advances to the medal games, he will have three more games to challenge Alex Ovechkin's single-tournament record of 14, which has stood since 2002.

You don’t score at this rate, this consistently, obliterating records from very high end NHL talents and being right up there with others because you’re a one trick pony.

Caufield is elite. He was elite his entire career and will be elite in the NHL when he gets there. Anyone saying he won’t has literally zero ground to stand on and Caufield will only get bigger, more solid and his shot will only improve in strength and accuracy. Be happy for one. We have a legitimate no. Sniper who miraculously fell to us at 15.

I bet the coach of Wisconsin wakes up every morning and pinches himself...

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I see no problems whatsoever with being really hyped about this kid right now. His particular skillset was already making him special in my book but the more I see him and the more it's the OTHER stuff I notice . Stuff like his effort level,his compete, how he's always trying to make a play with or without the puck, etc. He has a lot of the same fire that Gallagher has and just imagine what a more skilled Gallagher could do to our team.

 

[Goldenhands]

It's what a lot of people are wondering. How could so many teams pass on him? We know it's his size, but with today's NHL and the growing number of smallish players having an impact on their teams, you'd think teams wouldn't hesitate. It's to Montreal's benefit in the end.
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Because size and reach still matters in the NHL, Its more true for defensemen than for fowards, but it still matters nonetheless...

 

[Goldenhands]

He does, but theres plenty of NHL players that have ridiculously accurate shots and they dont make this shot often. Its either you believe Cole is some special god, or that these goals are ironed out of pro goalies.

My guess is the latter.

Its not even a dig at Cole, its a dig at the goalies. Hes one of the best goalscorer to be drafted in recent years thats for sure, I was just commenting on the type of goal he scored.

Dont know why Im quoted here, Im not the poster that wrote this...

Edit: JAPPO wrote that...

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I bet the coach of Wisconsin wakes up every morning and pinches himself...

I know I do.

 

[Mrb1p]

Here's the thing about that shot.. and it's not that I think he will score that goal a lot of times in the NHL.

The fact that he can and will beat you from there, means you have to be consciously aware of not 'giving' or leaving that opening and that means you have to seal the side up even more than you would against a lesser goal scorer.. that sets up other things, which Caufield knows that it does and why he is such a good goal scorer.

The more the goalie has to think/worry about.. the less effective he is.

For sure, and its probably why we see less of this goal scored, but more of the others. As I was saying, its probably ironed out by coaches at the prolevel, but physically theres no way you can block this and the rest. Goaltenders probably give more space on the outside than the inside to great shooters.

Thats my theory, because there has to he a reason we dont see this shot being executed more often.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Domi-Kotkaniemi-Gally/Yolo
Caufield-Poehling-Suzuki
Drouin-Danault-Gally/Yolo

 

[The Real Timo]

I can only picture Price breaking twice as many sticks out of frustration at practice because Caufield will most likely be able to squeeze quite a few of them past him.

I take it Caufield is good at shooting high glove side?

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

Wait what ? Even fourth liners have ridiculously accurate shots.

What most dont have is the ability to use it in NHL situations.

Exactly.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Really ? The only player i can remember who was able to touch the four corners of the net during the AllStars game challenge was Raymond Bourque . Most of the players over the years were happy to touch 2 of them . No , not all the players have accurate shots

Almost all of the players hit all 4 targets, Bourque actually went 4 for 4 in consecutive years. That's insane. His shot was extremely accurate and his ability to get shots through traffic and all goal is unparalelled. I think he still has the most shots on goal in history too.

I think he won the competition an unprecedented 8 times either outright or co-winner.

 

[Mrb1p]

Almost all of the players hit all 4 targets, Bourque actually went 4 for 4 in consecutive years. That's insane. His shot was extremely accurate and his ability to get shots through traffic and all goal is unparalelled. I think he still has the most shots on goal in history too.

I think he won the competition an unprecedented 8 times either outright or co-winner.

Confirmed, hes 1000 ahead of Ovi, who has been shooting 300 a year for like 12 years now.

Jagr is 600 behind him. Absolutely crazy.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Confirmed, hes 1000 ahead of Ovi, who has been shooting 300 a year for like 12 years now.

Jagr is 600 behind him. Absolutely crazy.

WhTs with the Caufield hate?
He’s 19 and broken every scoring record set by NHL players who’d we’d all love to be Hab players.

Seriously, what’s your problem with him?

 

[Mrb1p]

WhTs with the Caufield hate?
He’s 19 and broken every scoring record set by NHL players who’d we’d all love to be Hab players.

Seriously, what’s your problem with him?

My problem is that people are overly sensitive. I never hated once on Caufield. I said these goals dont happen in the NHL.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Really ? The only player i can remember who was able to touch the four corners of the net during the AllStars game challenge was Raymond Bourque . Most of the players over the years were happy to touch 2 of them . No , not all the players have accurate shots

That isn't remotely true. It is a competition to see who hits the targets the quickest, most players hit all four corners.

The NHL has the best of the best in every hockey discipline. I have hit all four corners in four shots and I am trash. You can't make such nonsensical generalizations from tiny sample sizes.

 

[Sterling Archer]

My problem is that people are overly sensitive. I never hated once on Caufield. I said these goals dont happen in the NHL.

Have you seen Laine, Boeser, Malkin, Tarasenko, Kucherov, Mathews, Kane, Debrincat, Kessel etc play before? Because if you have, house see them score like this before.

These goals get scored on in the NHL all the time. Just not by Hab players because we haven’t had a pure goal scorer like this in some time.

 

[Mrb1p]

Have you seen Laine, Boeser, Malkin, Tarasenko, Kucherov, Mathews, Kane, Debrincat, Kessel etc play before? Because if you have, house see them score like this before.

These goals get scored on in the NHL all the time. Just not by Hab players because we haven’t had a pure goal scorer like this in some time.

I remember one by Kucherov or Kane last year and one on Price. Thats it.

Its not an insult to anyone but Hunter Jones. It doesnt matter. Unless you think Cole is the greatest goalscorer ever, hes not going to score those regularly.

 

[Chadstudsky]

Best wrister since Kovalev?

 

[Beaker]

Galchenyuk would send that over the net and lose the team 30 seconds on the powerplay.

 

[peate]

Hitting targets while standing still is fine, and going 4 in 4 impressive, but it's not shooting under pressure in a game. If he can pick the corner like that, any opening is fair game. He'll get his goals anyway he can.