Proposal: COL - PIT

[Toby Flenderson]

No interest in Kerfoot and most likely a late 1st for a ppg winger.

“Kessel’s old” yeah okay he’s 31 haha relax guys. That’s tail end of the prime but still excellent hockey years left ahead of him. 3 years left too so you won’t have him when he really declines at like 36 or 37.

Even if he “declines” next year or the year after, he goes from what 82 points to 70?? Yeah definitely don’t want that player on my team and at 6.8 he’s a steal. Fans on here scoffing at the idea of him is ridiculous.

No one is asking for top tier talent here. Keep all of your studs and add an excellent scoring winger for Kaut+lottery protected 1st or Jost+ something smaller. That’s a good deal for the Avs, especially if they miss out on Panarin.

 

[Shnooks]

Kessel play has already begun to slow and Pit supposed to get Kerfoot and a 1st?

I'd be surprised to see Sakic do that

It's beginning to "slow?"

He had 82 points last season, which was the second best season of his career. Lol. (Last year was the best season of his career.)

 

[Iracundia]

No interest in Kerfoot and most likely a late 1st for a ppg winger.

“Kessel’s old” yeah okay he’s 31 haha relax guys. That’s tail end of the prime but still excellent hockey years left ahead of him. 3 years left too so you won’t have him when he really declines at like 36 or 37.

Even if he “declines” next year or the year after, he goes from what 82 points to 70?? Yeah definitely don’t want that player on my team and at 6.8 he’s a steal. Fans on here scoffing at the idea of him is ridiculous.

No one is asking for top tier talent here. Keep all of your studs and add an excellent scoring winger for Kaut+lottery protected 1st or Jost+ something smaller. That’s a good deal for the Avs, especially if they miss out on Panarin.

I would absolutely love to have Kessel on the Avs if our UFA list fails. But the price you are asking for doesn't match the fact that Pitts has ZERO leverage in this situation (see WPG and Trouba: 1st + B prospect) and Kessel controls his destination by being able to manipulate his 8 team list.

A lottery protected 2020 1st + B prospect would be my offer

 

[John Mandalorian]

No interest in Kerfoot and most likely a late 1st for a ppg winger.

“Kessel’s old” yeah okay he’s 31 haha relax guys. That’s tail end of the prime but still excellent hockey years left ahead of him. 3 years left too so you won’t have him when he really declines at like 36 or 37.

Even if he “declines” next year or the year after, he goes from what 82 points to 70?? Yeah definitely don’t want that player on my team and at 6.8 he’s a steal. Fans on here scoffing at the idea of him is ridiculous.

No one is asking for top tier talent here. Keep all of your studs and add an excellent scoring winger for Kaut+lottery protected 1st or Jost+ something smaller. That’s a good deal for the Avs, especially if they miss out on Panarin.

Then why don't you keep him?

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Then why don't you keep him?

I have no clue clearly there’s a rift between him and the coaching staff otherwise there would be no trade rumors.

You act like we’re trying to dump him because he sucks dude just had 90 points then 80 points he’s still a hell of a player

 

[BHD]

Kessel play has already begun to slow and Pit supposed to get Kerfoot and a 1st?

I'd be surprised to see Sakic do that

82 points this season. 92 the season before that. Even though he is liability at times, he's still producing.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I would absolutely love to have Kessel on the Avs if our UFA list fails. But the price you are asking for doesn't match the fact that Pitts has ZERO leverage in this situation (see WPG and Trouba: 1st + B prospect) and Kessel controls his destination by being able to manipulate his 8 team list.

A lottery protected 2020 1st + B prospect would be my offer

Trouba had 1 year left and wasn’t signed long term. Kessel has 3 years left on a sweetheart deal, that’s definitely worth a 1st plus a good prospect.

Kessel has a no trade list sure, but if he doesn’t want to play for Sullivan in october he’ll be more willing to waive for a trade. And I think he definitely waives for Colorado they are an attractive team

 

[Iracundia]

Trouba had 1 year left and wasn’t signed long term. Kessel has 3 years left on a sweetheart deal, that’s definitely worth a 1st plus a good prospect.

Kessel has a no trade list sure, but if he doesn’t want to play for Sullivan in october he’ll be more willing to waive for a trade. And I think he definitely waives for Colorado they are an attractive team

I still think the pressure is all on Pitts to move him as soon as the top UFAs sign. If pitts wants to reshape their roster they need to do it in July because come October there will only be a few crumbs to pick from. Isn't PK is another example of the type of return that Pitts may be in line for Phil?

 

[Avaholic29]

Yeah I'd take Kessel but not for kaut or Jost +1st. Kaut is having one hell of a development camp and I like his upside + ELC years, Jost cost controlled and still has alot of upside aswell. Kessel would be a luxury but I don't think he'd keep up with anyone to be completely honest lol. Might be good to have set up on the pp.

 

[VainGretzky]

Kessel play has already begun to slow and Pit supposed to get Kerfoot and a 1st?

I'd be surprised to see Sakic do that

Laughable post , slowing down ? you realize his last 2 seasons has dominated his prior 3 in production in fact these last 2 have been his career best in point total

 

[Avaholic29]

Laughable post , slowing down ? you realize his last 2 seasons has dominated his prior 3 in production in fact these last 2 have been his career best in point total

He's slowing down in a literal sense. Have you seen him skate? He'd be a great pp specialist but Pitts had him on the third line for a reason, defensive liability and really slow. But he does still have a great finish if his linemates can find him open

 

[VainGretzky]

He's slowing down in a literal sense. Have you seen him skate? He'd be a great pp specialist but Pitts had him on the third line for a reason, defensive liability and really slow. But he does still have a great finish if his linemates can find him open

really slow lol wow

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

He's slowing down in a literal sense. Have you seen him skate? He'd be a great pp specialist but Pitts had him on the third line for a reason, defensive liability and really slow. But he does still have a great finish if his linemates can find him open

Kessel wears #81.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I still think the pressure is all on Pitts to move him as soon as the top UFAs sign. If pitts wants to reshape their roster they need to do it in July because come October there will only be a few crumbs to pick from. Isn't PK is another example of the type of return that Pitts may be in line for Phil?

I really don’t think PK is a good example. The Preds got fleeced and everyone knows it, but I think their GM did it to open space for Duchene so he was okay with losing the trade

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I have no clue clearly there’s a rift between him and the coaching staff otherwise there would be no trade rumors.

You act like we’re trying to dump him because he sucks dude just had 90 points then 80 points he’s still a hell of a player

Kessel is absolutely still a hell of a player. But, he's going to be 31 soon, and only has 3 more years left on his contract. What does that next contract look like? That's my big concern with the Avs acquiring him. With all the big contracts that we're likely going to be handing out over the next 3-4 years, he's only here for 2-3 years and then who do we have to replace him? The 2020 1st won't in the mix of youngsters hopefully ready to take that spot, so we're faced with either trading another 1st for another bandaid, or finding another solution in UFA, or maybe getting lucky with a late round pick. I'd rather keep the pick, keep adding BPA to the prospect pool, and hopefully have a steady stream of young players on ELCs to add to the team when we're up against the cap.

 

[Avaholic29]

really slow lol wow

Compared to the style of the league now, he's slow. He'd be the slowest on the avs immediately and it goes against our style of attack. So my point stands, he'd be good for our pp and if his linemates can find him open. If he's that good and your that high on him keep him. Learn that you will receive opinions from other fan bases when you include their team in a made up proposal.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Kessel is absolutely still a hell of a player. But, he's going to be 31 soon, and only has 3 more years left on his contract. What does that next contract look like? That's my big concern with the Avs acquiring him. With all the big contracts that we're likely going to be handing out over the next 3-4 years, he's only here for 2-3 years and then who do we have to replace him? The 2020 1st won't in the mix of youngsters hopefully ready to take that spot, so we're faced with either trading another 1st for another bandaid, or finding another solution in UFA, or maybe getting lucky with a late round pick. I'd rather keep the pick, keep adding BPA to the prospect pool, and hopefully have a steady stream of young players on ELCs to add to the team when we're up against the cap.

I don’t think you sign him to another deal in 3 years. I think you acquire him now while all your stars are still cheap and give yourself the best chance to win a cup. Let Kessel walk in 3 years and use that money to give Mack his raise. Paying a 1st and prospect for those 3 years of elite play is worth it in my opinion.

But even if you wanted to re-up him I don’t think at 35 Kessel gets a huge contract. He honestly might just retire after these 3 years

 

[Gurglesons]

All of the massive Kessel drama aside, he simply is the opposite of what the Avs need and it isn't a good fit. Colorado is looking for young players who can fit in with their core, and play strong 5v5 minutes with limited special teams time, so its pretty easy to see why an old PP specialist wouldn't be a good fit on a team where he wouldn't be used there.

Especially when that cap could be better used on a UFA player who would be a fit for them.

The big issue with Kessel is Sid doesn’t like his game and Malkin with him is a disaster.

He could be very good at propping up a 2nd line for the Avs or playing on the 1st allowing Rantanen to carry the 2nd like in the playoffs.

 

[Gurglesons]

Compared to the style of the league now, he's slow. He'd be the slowest on the avs immediately and it goes against our style of attack. So my point stands, he'd be good for our pp and if his linemates can find him open. If he's that good and your that high on him keep him. Learn that you will receive opinions from other fan bases when you include their team in a made up proposal.

Once again, Kessel’s number is 81.

 

[PAZ]

If we strike out in UFA, I’d do a lotto protected 1st + Kerfoot for Kessel + 3rd/4th.

 

[DearDiary]

He's slowing down in a literal sense. Have you seen him skate? He'd be a great pp specialist but Pitts had him on the third line for a reason, defensive liability and really slow. But he does still have a great finish if his linemates can find him open

Kessel is one of the fastest skaters in the league. He's also a playmaker, not a goal scorer. Why not just come out and say you've never watched him play? In fact, it doesn't even seem like you've looked at his stats

 

[Avaholic29]

Kessel is one of the fastest skaters in the league. He's also a playmaker, not a goal scorer. Why not just come out and say you've never watched him play? In fact, it doesn't even seem like you've looked at his stats

He averages 30+ goals lol and you are going to try to tell me I don't watch Kessel in the same statement you claim he's one of the fastest skaters in the league?! Lmao C'mon man. I like kessel. I don't like the idea of giving up kerfoot and a first at this moment in time, I don't see kessel fitting the avs well. You going to be able to live your life or do I need to change my opinion so you survive?

 

[Avaholic29]

Once again, Kessel’s number is 81.

I have no clue what you're getting at and you are wasting time attempting to be clever. Once again, learn to accept that fans of other teams will have an opinion when you include their team in a proposal.

 

[Gurglesons]

I have no clue what you're getting at and you are wasting time attempting to be clever. Once again, learn to accept that fans of other teams will have an opinion when you include their team in a proposal.

You’re calling Kessel slow. You’ve absolutely never watched him play.

 

[Avaholic29]

You’re calling Kessel slow. You’ve absolutely never watched him play.

I have absolutely watched him play lol, he floats a good majority of the back check and doesn't have great acceleration man. I'm not sure if you are just used to seeing him skate along side oleksiak and gudbranson but yeah. Once again I'll say it for you nice and clear , personally I don't think he fits our system well and I don't like the proposal posted. Welcome to the real world where people differ in opinions lol