Coaching Discussion: Jon Cooper - Part 2

[Todd1a]

Hahah holy christ thats a bad, bad change.

wow they fired a good coach for a bad one lol

 

[RussianGuyovich]

Nothing says “you’re right, russianguyovich” like a completely contradictory hockey statement from Brian Lawton.

 

[Felonious Python]

Hynes hockey does sound really familiar, especially if you watched the creating offensive identity video with Laviolette from earlier.

 

[Rschmitz]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/28428054/midseason-grades-all-31-nhl-teams

Coach: A- After getting swept by the Blue Jackets in the first round last postseason, Jon Cooper vowed that the Lightning would play the kind of hockey that wins in the playoffs, no matter the cost to their style. Although their goal scoring is down from last season's 3.89 goals per game, they've succeeded in reducing the number of scoring chances for opponents and have found their swagger after a slow start. What that means for the playoffs, assuming they earn a berth, is anyone's guess. But Cooper is going to continue to boldly challenge his team, like when he benched Kucherov a few weeks ago.

 

[DFC]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/28428054/midseason-grades-all-31-nhl-teams

That's all well and good. But it still doesn't solve how we're going to generate offense against teams who are determined, and capable, of shutting us down. The most ironic fact about all of our failures in the playoffs they've been rooted in the offense, not so much defense.

 

[CupsOverCash]

That's all well and good. But it still doesn't solve how we're going to generate offense against teams who are determined, and capable, of shutting us down. The most ironic fact about all of our failures in the playoffs they've been rooted in the offense, not so much defense.

I still worry about getting pushed around in the playoffs by bigger teams when the refs put the whistles away a little more. We havent depended on our PP as much this year but I still worry about their ability to produce offense when we play those kinds of teams. Not like the team has gotten that much bigger since last year. I want to know what Coops plan will be if that happens again. Honestly, what should he do when that happens?

 

[Felonious Python]

I still worry about getting pushed around in the playoffs by bigger teams when the refs put the whistles away a little more. We havent depended on our PP as much this year but I still worry about their ability to produce offense when we play those kinds of teams. Not like the team has gotten that much bigger since last year. I want to know what Coops plan will be if that happens again. Honestly, what should he do when that happens?

Some changes will be slow, like team size up front, but the idea of going through the pain of making changes to the Lightning's game was to have them not afraid to just get greasy, grinder goals.

 

[Rschmitz]

That's all well and good. But it still doesn't solve how we're going to generate offense against teams who are determined, and capable, of shutting us down. The most ironic fact about all of our failures in the playoffs they've been rooted in the offense, not so much defense.

I wouldn’t put any stock at all into what ESPN says

 

[Felonious Python]

I wouldn’t put any stock at all into what ESPN says

It depends who it is. They employed Pierre LeBrun for many years, and he is one of the rare insiders to actually seem to know something about what's going on with the Lightning.

 

[Master P]

 

[DFC]

It depends who it is. They employed Pierre LeBrun for many years, and he is one of the rare insiders to actually seem to know something about what's going on with the Lightning.

I think he's the only one.

 

[Sky04]

I don't really mind it as much as others. Sometimes guys need a change of scenery, it obviously wasn't working with Laviolette and Hynes is a relatively new coach that's worth taking a second chance on.

 

[Rschmitz]

Bump, this thread has fallen too far down the page.

#FireCooper

 

[Todd1a]

Bump, this thread has fallen too far down the page.

#FireCooper

lol but after the playoffs this will be a hot thread again

 

[Rschmitz]

lol but after the playoffs this will be a hot thread again

 

[Felonious Python]

Well. I guess it's time to dust this old thread off...

 

[VinikToWinIt]

Well. I guess it's time to dust this old thread off...

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[The Gongshow]

Smh, couldn't even coach this team to 11 wins. Didn't play Rutta enough, Dropped the 91-21-86 line. Didn't chew enough gum.
Get him outta here...

 

[The Macho King]

I mean - these "I told you sos" are pretty dumb. Cooper is going to be judged by the playoffs. The only reason it felt like the heat turned up during the year because it looked like a real possibility we wouldn't make it that far.

 

[Sky04]

I mean - these "I told you sos" are pretty dumb. Cooper is going to be judged by the playoffs. The only reason it felt like the heat turned up during the year because it looked like a real possibility we wouldn't make it that far.

People are giving him praise for doing what this team should've been doing in the first place. This team should've never been in that position they were in a month ago.

It's like giving the lazy guy a bonus for doing what he's supposed to do anyways.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Coop can never win this. It’s pretty much cup or bust.

 

[Todd1a]

Coop can never win this. It’s pretty much cup or bust.

Well it is in his 7th year here pretty much it is cup or bust at this point ? I think he needs to at least make the ECF if he want's to be back next season! what coach has kept his job this long without winning a Stanley cup ? been here 8 years ! Quenneville lasted 10 years with the black hawks but won 3 Stanley cups 36-32 record for coop is not that great in the playoffs that's pretty average

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

cooper stays

he has adjusted he changed the team we are far superior imho to last years squad id like to add one tough grindy forward like maroon with playoff experience if possible.... one mistake cooper has made is you do not sit a goalie even on back to back who has 2 str8 shutouts doubt it woulda made a difference with the devils but you play the hot hand lol always

 

[Todd1a]

cooper stays

he has adjusted he changed the team we are far superior imho to last years squad id like to add one tough grindy forward like maroon with playoff experience if possible.... one mistake cooper has made is you do not sit a goalie even on back to back who has 2 str8 shutouts doubt it woulda made a difference with the devils but you play the hot hand lol always

he will fail in the playoffs always has and always will ! That is where he will be judged