Player Discussion Chris Tanev, Pt. II

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Just another example of terrible asset management by Benning. Could have sold Tanev for a huge return a few years ago but now we'd be lucky to get a late 1st.
No chance we get a 1st.

3rd at best unless he plays all games leading up to next years TDL which is never going to happen.
 

VanJack

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If Benning had been able to draft, trade or acquire a decent d-man over the years, they wouldn't have to rely on Edler and Tanev to play 20-plus minutes a night season after season.. And with the minutes they chew up and the amount of time they spend in the line of fire, both guys are just injuries waiting to happen.

But I suppose when you let Tryamkin walk; and your 'big' acquisitions on the blueline are Gudbranson, Pouliot and Clendenning, well what can you expect?
 

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Trading him now would be terrible. Going to get peanuts for him. Just use him as a 40 game player as that’s what he is. Good when in the lineup, not often in the lineup. He’s salo V2.0
 

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This is not a player to resign. You hope he stays healthy and a has a decent season next year so you can flip him at the deadline for the best offer

The best time to move him has long come and gone, way to progressive a move for this poor management.
 
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Doy you really think a contending team would rather trade their 3rd leading scorer signed to a fantastic contract over a young defender which was a major organizational strength?
Bonino being their 3rd leading scorer is exactly the reason they were going after Ryan Kesler, they needed better depth after Getz & Perry. That's not a compliment to Bonino, it's an indictment on Anaheim's depth at the time.
 

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Bonino being their 3rd leading scorer is exactly the reason they were going after Ryan Kesler, they needed better depth after Getz & Perry. That's not a compliment to Bonino, it's an indictment on Anaheim's depth at the time.
It is also a reason Anaheim valued Bonino and didn't want to give him up, we could have opted for a nice big piecepof futures instead.
 

Captain Bowie

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It is also a reason Anaheim valued Bonino and didn't want to give him up, we could have opted for a nice big piecepof futures instead.
Agree to disagree. They obviously did trade him, so they didn't value him enough to not trade him.
 

VanJack

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There are some players the Canucks simply have to move on from this off-season, if for not other reason than to keep faith with the fan base.....Eriksson, Granlund, Pouliot, Sutter and their MIA forward Schaller.

And reluctantly you have to now put Tanev on this list. Call it a 'mercy trade'.....he needs a new team and the Canucks need more d-men who can deliver far more offense and above all else, stay healthy.
 

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There are some players the Canucks simply have to move on from this off-season, if for not other reason than to keep faith with the fan base.....Eriksson, Granlund, Pouliot, Sutter and their MIA forward Schaller.

And reluctantly you have to now put Tanev on this list. Call it a 'mercy trade'.....he needs a new team and the Canucks need more d-men who can deliver far more offense and above all else, stay healthy.

I don't agree. Would be terrible asset management selling him at his lowest value. Keep him, hope he can stay healthy and flip him at the TDL.
 
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VanJack

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I don't agree. Would be terrible asset management selling him at his lowest value. Keep him, hope he can stay healthy and flip him at the TDL.
Nice idea....but the chances of Tanev actually being healthy at the trade deadline are somewhere between zero and none. And another season of debilitating injuries would reduce his value to little more than a late-round pick anyway.

It's the same as Sutter. He might be worth more at next year's TDL. But he's only standing in the way of younger players. And unfortunately so is Tanev. He's a UFA at the end of next season, and likely gone anyway.
 

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Nice idea....but the chances of Tanev actually being healthy at the trade deadline are somewhere between zero and none. And another season of debilitating injuries would reduce his value to little more than a late-round pick anyway.

It's the same as Sutter. He might be worth more at next year's TDL. But he's only standing in the way of younger players. And unfortunately so is Tanev. He's a UFA at the end of next season, and likely gone anyway.
Who is Tanev standing in the way of (at least for the next few years)?
 

PetterssonSimp

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If the Canucks can remove Chris Tanev and Ryan Spooner from the cap, they’d have nearly 40m in cap space to throw 14m at Karlsson. Could even probably afford to replace Alex Edler with Jake Gardiner for only a few more years in term rather than actual cap hit.
Instant revamp of the defence core and no more of this trash injury prone player
 

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If the Canucks can remove Chris Tanev and Ryan Spooner from the cap, they’d have nearly 40m in cap space to throw 14m at Karlsson. Could even probably afford to replace Alex Edler with Jake Gardiner for only a few more years in term rather than actual cap hit.
Instant revamp of the defence core and no more of this trash injury prone player
Spooner was a cap dump. He was only acquired to get rid of a worse cap dump. Spooner will likely only get moved for yet another cap dump (so you’re not really accomplishing much). Still was a good move by Benning in that Gagner wasn’t even going to play for the Comets.
 

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Who is Tanev standing in the way of (at least for the next few years)?
Good question. Our d pipeline is bad, Juolevi is the 2nd coming of Barker but softer! Hughes is unproven. Woo is unproven. Wait til a few of these guys are knocking down the door and have proven they can play in the nhl. Otherwise we just keep going in circles.

Of course it’s all a moot point anyway cuz Jimbo doesn’t understand that trading players for picks at the deadline is allowed.
 
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PetterssonSimp

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Spooner was a cap dump. He was only acquired to get rid of a worse cap dump. Spooner will likely only get moved for yet another cap dump (so you’re not really accomplishing much). Still was a good move by Benning in that Gagner wasn’t even going to play for the Comets.
Lol Gagner isn’t a worse cap dump. He’s actually helped the Oilers gain points in the standings since being there. That alone makes him a better asset

Also management failed to paper him down to even play Utica stretch drive. Along with Demko and Gaudette. None of that move looks good.
 

Bobby Digital

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Nice idea....but the chances of Tanev actually being healthy at the trade deadline are somewhere between zero and none. And another season of debilitating injuries would reduce his value to little more than a late-round pick anyway.

It's the same as Sutter. He might be worth more at next year's TDL. But he's only standing in the way of younger players. And unfortunately so is Tanev. He's a UFA at the end of next season, and likely gone anyway.

Tanev isn't blocking anyone. I would much rather roll the dice and take a chance on him staying healthy thab to flip him now for a 3rd round pick.

Even if he does suffer an injury next season as long as he's projected to be back in time for the playoffs some team would probably offer a 3rd at the TDL.

Anyways the point remains, trading Tanev at his lowest value would be bad asset management.
 

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If the Canucks can remove Chris Tanev and Ryan Spooner from the cap, they’d have nearly 40m in cap space to throw 14m at Karlsson. Could even probably afford to replace Alex Edler with Jake Gardiner for only a few more years in term rather than actual cap hit.
Instant revamp of the defence core and no more of this trash injury prone player
Gardiner is going to be a bad contract
 

VanJack

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Tanev isn't blocking anyone. I would much rather roll the dice and take a chance on him staying healthy thab to flip him now for a 3rd round pick.

Even if he does suffer an injury next season as long as he's projected to be back in time for the playoffs some team would probably offer a 3rd at the TDL.

Anyways the point remains, trading Tanev at his lowest value would be bad asset management.[/QUOTE

You realize of course that if Tanev is hurt again at next year's TDL and the Canucks can't deal him, then he can walk for nothing as a UFA on July 1st. Now that would be the ultimate in 'bad asset management'.

I suppose there's a chance somebody picks up Tanev at the TDL even if he's on IR. But teams aren't in the habit of giving up anything for injured d-men. They need more immediate help down the stretch.

In September, you know he's actually going to be healthy and be a contributor to the team that acquires him. And that's probably as good as it's going to get with this player.
 
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