mightyquack
eggplant and jade or bust
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Still not a fan of the player, but can't argue with that price or term. Anaheim can cut ties pretty easily if it doesn't work out too which is good.
Great deal
Imo he replaces Beleskey on the second line and Hagelin will be on the 3rd line
Great off season so far. Stewart vs Lucic fights will definitely happen
Pretty much on target with all of this. The only thing I'd add to the Allen thing is that Allen is the reason why teams should be leery of on-ice stats as a primary selling point, since his shot blocking was a big reason why he was highly sought after that year.I think Heatley is the only one of those four you can apply that tag to(Penner being another). Allen wasn't on the decline at all, and for two years was pretty much exactly what he was the ten before that. I thought he played his role well enough, but the game kind of passed him. That leads us to Stoner, who I thought also played his role well, and while being a little overpaid, is still a quality bottom-pairing defenseman.
And then there's Souray, maybe the biggest "what might have been" about this team that no one talks about. If anything they were hoping he'd be healthy, and he wasn't, but even for Souray, there's no way anyone would have even thought of him having a career-ending injury after one season. It was a blessing in disguise, in the sense that it allowed Lindholm the opportunity to emerge, but you can't help but wonder what might've happened if he recovered from the initial injury. I thought he was great in that year here, and he might've been a big help in that LA series last year.
I'm surprised some people think if the price is right Stewart is a good acquisition. Regardless of price, Bob has once again brought in an under performing player, one with a reputation for being lazy and incredibly inconsistent. Just because he's not overpaid doesn't mean he is the solution to anything. Yeah, I know, he's all we're getting so I'm hoping he does well too. But hope isn't a plan, unless your name is Bob Murray.
Now all we need is for all our young guys to take a step forward next year and for Stewart to be the guy he's never been because he's chasing a ufa contract, and we will be golden. What could possibly go wrong with a plan like that?
I'm surprised some people think if the price is right Stewart is a good acquisition. Regardless of price, Bob has once again brought in an under performing player, one with a reputation for being lazy and incredibly inconsistent. Just because he's not overpaid doesn't mean he is the solution to anything. Yeah, I know, he's all we're getting so I'm hoping he does well too. But hope isn't a plan, unless your name is Bob Murray.
Now all we need is for all our young guys to take a step forward next year and for Stewart to be the guy he's never been because he's chasing a ufa contract, and we will be golden. What could possibly go wrong with a plan like that?
Great deal
Imo he replaces Beleskey on the second line and Hagelin will be on the 3rd line
Great off season so far. Stewart vs Lucic fights will definitely happen
Oh, stop. This is not about facing the inevitable. Stewart is a good add as a depth player. We pried open a hole at RW when we traded Palmieri, and Stewart is absolutely a better fit for the role that Kyle found himself in. Stewart isn't a reclamation project. No one is expecting him to be anything but depth scoring, which was needed.The point isn't whether he is worth his contract, the point is whether he is what we need or not. He isn't what we need (top 6 W), but since we aren't getting what we need, somebody still has to fill a roster spot so, it's him.
Once we knew Bels was leaving, how many people would have been happy to hear Bob tell us he was going to replace Beleskey with a $1.75M replacement? I'd venture to say nobody. But today, it's a great move? I don't understand that.
I do understand that facing the inevitable we can all try and figure out where he could be the most helpful, but that's not the same as being happy he's the big off season acquisition at forward.
The point isn't whether he is worth his contract, the point is whether he is what we need or not. He isn't what we need (top 6 W), but since we aren't getting what we need, somebody still has to fill a roster spot so, it's him.
Once we knew Bels was leaving, how many people would have been happy to hear Bob tell us he was going to replace Beleskey with a $1.75M replacement? I'd venture to say nobody. But today, it's a great move? I don't understand that.
I do understand that facing the inevitable we can all try and figure out where he could be the most helpful, but that's not the same as being happy he's the big off season acquisition at forward.
The point isn't whether he is worth his contract, the point is whether he is what we need or not. He isn't what we need (top 6 W), but since we aren't getting what we need, somebody still has to fill a roster spot so, it's him.
Once we knew Bels was leaving, how many people would have been happy to hear Bob tell us he was going to replace Beleskey with a $1.75M replacement? I'd venture to say nobody. But today, it's a great move? I don't understand that.
I do understand that facing the inevitable we can all try and figure out where he could be the most helpful, but that's not the same as being happy he's the big off season acquisition at forward.
Oh, stop. This is not about facing the inevitable. Stewart is a good add as a depth player. We pried open a hole at RW when we traded Palmieri, and Stewart is absolutely a better fit for the role that Kyle found himself in. Stewart isn't a reclamation project. No one is expecting him to be anything but depth scoring, which was needed.
The point isn't whether he is worth his contract, the point is whether he is what we need or not. He isn't what we need (top 6 W), but since we aren't getting what we need, somebody still has to fill a roster spot so, it's him.
Once we knew Bels was leaving, how many people would have been happy to hear Bob tell us he was going to replace Beleskey with a $1.75M replacement? I'd venture to say nobody. But today, it's a great move? I don't understand that.
I do understand that facing the inevitable we can all try and figure out where he could be the most helpful, but that's not the same as being happy he's the big off season acquisition at forward.
Everything Is Fine. Murray opened three holes and then he closed them, for cheap! If it wasn't cheap, how else could we afford Tagging Room when he's ready for the big time next season?
By that reasoning, I assume you think Dallas shouldn't have traded for Sharp? There's few teams that couldn't benefit from Stewart's services for under $2 million a year.
I don't follow your reasoning. I'm sure Dallas feels Sharp is what they needed. They certainly didn't acquire him because he was cheap.
My point was and is, go acquire what you need, not something you found on the sale rack as you went to make your original purchase.
You think Dallas, the team with the best offense last year, needed to acquire Sharp? No, GM Nill did it because the reward far outweighed the price. Same goes for GMBM signing Stewart. He'll likely be a fixture on our 3rd line, put up more than 30 points, and all for the small price of a one-year, $2 million contract.
That is an entirely separate argument, one that you're dragging into this thread for no particularly good reason. Yes, we needed a bottom six winger. Even if we had traded for Ovechkin, today, it would still make sense to grab a guy like Stewart to fill out the other hole that was in the lineup. Your particular argument in this case is unjustified.But we have a bigger need in the top 6. And I assure you there are people here who will be surprised and disappointed when Stewart doesn't fill that top 6 role with his "high ceiling" and that desire for a big ufa contrct.
He's 27 years old and joining his 5th team. He has a poor track record of fitting in anywhere. Nobody seems sorry to let him go. It's not just about the points he can score in a depth role.
Stewart is an upgrade over Etem, and while Palmieri is more skilled than Stewart, he was not as well suited to the role being given to him as Stewart is. Stewart adds some physical dimension that the team lost with Beleskey leaving. He doesn't have to fill the same roster spot to do that.Everything Is Fine. Murray opened three holes and then he closed them, for cheap! If it wasn't cheap, how else could we afford Tagging Room when he's ready for the big time next season?