Chicago @ Ottawa | Hossa comes home for 1000

[Vesa Awesaka]

Both Lehner and Anderson have OT/Shootout losses where they posted .897 save percentages.

That is each their worst games this year, we still got a point and still both losses were nowhere near their fault.

9 games in and we're 5-2-2...thats great!

In our last 19 games going back to last season i believe were 13-3-3. Guys must have a bit of confidence right now

 

[Caeldan]

No more wrap around goals, please Andy.

We should have won the game, but I'll take a point. Be nice to wreck some ECHL goalie's **** once in a while I have to say.

McBackup lets us do that.

 

[aragorn]

I thought Anderson had a pretty good game although he did make a couple of mistakes. His defence & Karlsson specifically in the first two periods was terrible. He made some great saves at crucial times & basically kept the team in the game & gave them a shot to win including in overtime. I don't think you can blame the loss on Anderson because of a skill competition, that was a great goal by Sharp the veteran.

And speaking of Karlsson, his game tonight is why I don't think PM should ever play either Cowen or Wiercioch with him. They just don't react quit enough to cover for him so often. Methot seems to be the best defence partner for Karlsson, he seems to react quick enough to the Karlsson gaffs to prevent goals against. I expect this defence to be much better once Methot returns but then the question will be who plays & who doesn't between Boroweicki, Cowen & Wiercioch. Should be interesting.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Hopefully this goal awakens zib and he can meet my very realistic expectations for this year. Ryan bud. Pick. It. Up.
Cowen had another so-so game. He wasnt terrible. Wasn't spectacular but whatever. I personally feel that karlsson was atrocious for the first 50 minutes of the game. The last ten we went all out attack. A style if play that isn't sustainable for 60 minutes. This isn't biancosaurus "karlsson hater pay back to all spezza haters" speaking. This is real biancosaurus talking. Karlsson has to be better. I don't care if he gets a hundred points this season. He is a defenceman playing HUGE minutes. He has to be better in his own zone. Much much much better. Play like tonight is pathetic. He's playing like a second pairing PP specialist. Blame the injury all you want. But he was much better last year than this. He was our worst defenceman in the defensive zone tonight. I truly believe that. That is disgusting.

 

[aragorn]

Hopefully this goal awakens zib and he can meet my very realistic expectations for this year. Ryan bud. Pick. It. Up.
Cowen had another so-so game. He wasnt terrible. Wasn't spectacular but whatever. I personally feel that karlsson was atrocious for the first 50 minutes of the game. The last ten we went all out attack. A style if play that isn't sustainable for 60 minutes. This isn't biancosaurus "karlsson hater pay back to all spezza haters" speaking. This is real biancosaurus talking. Karlsson has to be better. I don't care if he gets a hundred points this season. He is a defenceman playing HUGE minutes. He has to be better in his own zone. Much much much better. Play like tonight is pathetic. He's playing like a second pairing PP specialist. Blame the injury all you want. But he was much better last year than this. He was our worst defenceman in the defensive zone tonight. I truly believe that. That is disgusting.

WOW ... welcome to the dark side .....

 

[18Hossa]

Hossa>>>>>>

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

The thing about Karlsson is he needs to run free without having to fear his defensive partner is weaker than him defensively. Or Karlsson needs to cover for his mistakes and his partner's.

Every time Karlsson has played with a legit partner, he's been a stellar defender. He especially needs a good one due to his crazy style of play which is hard to predict and only a defender with high IQ can match him. That can apply to almost anyone else in the league as well. I remember LA fans saying Doughty's poor play was cause he was dragging a bad partner.

Show me a top defender in the league who plays with worse partners than Karlsson.

Weber= Josi
McDonagh= Girardi
Pietrangelo = Bouwmeester
Keith= Seabrook
Subban = Markov/Yemelin
Suter= Brodin
Giordano= Brodie

Karlsson when he had Edler and OEL? Won best player in world. Karlsson when he had Methot? Best player in NHL. When he had Kuba? Norris.

It'll come, folks.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

The thing about Karlsson is he needs to run free without having to fear his defensive partner is weaker than him defensively. Or Karlsson needs to cover for his mistakes and his partner's.

Every time Karlsson has played with a legit partner, he's been a stellar defender. He especially needs a good one due to his crazy style of play which is hard to predict and only a defender with high IQ can match him. That can apply to almost anyone else in the league as well. I remember LA fans saying Doughty's poor play was cause he was dragging a bad partner.

Show me a top defender in the league who plays with worse partners than Karlsson.

Weber= Josi
McDonagh= Girardi
Pietrangelo = Bouwmeester
Keith= Seabrook
Subban = Markov/Yemelin
Suter= Brodin
Giordano= Brodie

Karlsson when he had Edler and OEL? Won best player in world. Karlsson when he had Methot? Best player in NHL. When he had Kuba? Norris.

It'll come, folks.

...if Methot ever finds his way out of the Bermuda Triangle. Seriously, where the heck is he??

 

[YOW]

I guess I'm gonna reserve judgement...........if we're ******** the bed against Buffalo, Arizona, Carolina and Edmonton then everyone is on notice. Until then it's a team game and we just stole a point against Chicago FFS.
I'm taking this point and running in oct.

 

[starling]

Fun fact: sens had just 1(one) shot on goal from their defence during entire game. Chicago had 14.
They need to work on that powerplay. That broken record with Turris-Karlsson passing on the blue line was hard to watch.

 

[YOW]

The thing about Karlsson is he needs to run free without having to fear his defensive partner is weaker than him defensively. Or Karlsson needs to cover for his mistakes and his partner's.

Every time Karlsson has played with a legit partner, he's been a stellar defender. He especially needs a good one due to his crazy style of play which is hard to predict and only a defender with high IQ can match him. That can apply to almost anyone else in the league as well. I remember LA fans saying Doughty's poor play was cause he was dragging a bad partner.

Show me a top defender in the league who plays with worse partners than Karlsson.

Weber= Josi
McDonagh= Girardi
Pietrangelo = Bouwmeester
Keith= Seabrook
Subban = Markov/Yemelin
Suter= Brodin
Giordano= Brodie

Karlsson when he had Edler and OEL? Won best player in world. Karlsson when he had Methot? Best player in NHL. When he had Kuba? Norris.

It'll come, folks.

This should be bolded and pinned........Karlsson is not a golf or tennis player. How have the Sens management supported him to succeed? By giving him derp as a defensive partner? The guy is good but seriously do you expect him to cook your hot dog at intermission too? What has he got to work with?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The thing about Karlsson is he needs to run free without having to fear his defensive partner is weaker than him defensively. Or Karlsson needs to cover for his mistakes and his partner's.

Every time Karlsson has played with a legit partner, he's been a stellar defender. He especially needs a good one due to his crazy style of play which is hard to predict and only a defender with high IQ can match him. That can apply to almost anyone else in the league as well. I remember LA fans saying Doughty's poor play was cause he was dragging a bad partner.

Show me a top defender in the league who plays with worse partners than Karlsson.

Weber= Josi
McDonagh= Girardi
Pietrangelo = Bouwmeester
Keith= Seabrook
Subban = Markov/Yemelin
Suter= Brodin
Giordano= Brodie

Karlsson when he had Edler and OEL? Won best player in world. Karlsson when he had Methot? Best player in NHL. When he had Kuba? Norris.

It'll come, folks.

Run free without worrying about his defensive partner/duties? Does that sound like a number 1 defencman to anyone here????? That sounds like a liability. I trust all those players in their own zone more so than karlsson. It's not even D zone play. Well it is. It's that he's getting beat one on one. FORGET his partners defensive mistakes. Who cares about his partners. He can't even take care of himself right now!

 

[Sun God Nika]

Just wait for Methot guys... everything will be ok.

 

[aragorn]

This should be bolded and pinned........Karlsson is not a golf or tennis player. How have the Sens management supported him to succeed? By giving him derp as a defensive partner? The guy is good but seriously do you expect him to cook your hot dog at intermission too? What has he got to work with?

So it's his partner's fault when he gets schooled by Versteeg? It's not his partner's fault if he gives the puck away, or gets it taken off his stick or he can't stop a player from going to the net. Sometimes it's his fault. Just because he is this board's favourite player doesn't mean he is above criticism. If Cowen had played like Karlsson did tonight this board would be going crazy to trade him. He played like crap tonight & deserves to be criticized for it like every other player.

BTW Methot is a very good defenceman & deserves a little bit more credit for covering Karlsson's ass when he is in the lineup. The majority around here used to think that one of Cowen or Wiercioch would be top pairing defencemen by now but they are not for whatever reason. They are still young, there is still a chance one of them improves but it could take a while longer. Which defenceman is available who BM can trade a couple of our scratched players for who can play with Karlsson & cover his ass & make him better than he showed tonight?

 

[Super Cake]

Well that ****ing sucked.

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Well that ****ing sucked.

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

lol, that works with your avatar so well

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

The thing about Karlsson is he needs to run free without having to fear his defensive partner is weaker than him defensively. Or Karlsson needs to cover for his mistakes and his partner's.

I see the opposite really. I see his partner or a forward covering for him a lot of the time.

He get's beaten one on one more often than not and his positioning on the ice is not due to having an inadequate partner, its on him.

 

[YOW]

Run free without worrying about his defensive partner/duties? Does that sound like a number 1 defencman to anyone here????? That sounds like a liability. I trust all those players in their own zone more so than karlsson. It's not even D zone play. Well it is. It's that he's getting beat one on one. FORGET his partners defensive mistakes. Who cares about his partners. He can't even take care of himself right now!

I'd be so bold to say if it was an individual sport he'd be doing quite nicely because he'd know it's all on him. As it is he has to play with his teammates and that's where the scrubs- rubber meets the road. Give him a quality partner not a Phillips or anyone else you might think works kinda guy........with that we're just wasting EK65's prime years. The guy won a Norris with Kuba. We're just missing the guy that complements him.

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

Guys, we're not talking enough about the Lazar Line....sweet gravy we got something incredibly special there. and the centre on that line is 19!!!

I've never seen a Sens line in so long that had such amazing combo of hockey IQ, speed and skill. And they're fierce on both ends of the ice!

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

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I'd be so bold to say if it was an individual sport he'd be doing quite nicely because he'd know it's all on him. As it is he has to play with his teammates and that's where the scrubs- rubber meets the road. Give him a quality partner not a Phillips or anyone else you might think works kinda guy........with that we're just wasting EK65's prime years. The guy won a Norris with Kuba. We're just missing the guy that complements him.

He won the Norris (for the most part) because of his offence

 

[YOW]

So it's his partner's fault when he gets schooled by Versteeg? It's not his partner's fault if he gives the puck away, or gets it taken off his stick or he can't stop a player from going to the net. Sometimes it's his fault. Just because he is this board's favourite player doesn't mean he is above criticism. If Cowen had played like Karlsson did tonight this board would be going crazy to trade him. He played like crap tonight & deserves to be criticized for it like every other player.

BTW Methot is a very good defenceman & deserves a little bit more credit for covering Karlsson's ass when he is in the lineup. The majority around here used to think that one of Cowen or Wiercioch would be top pairing defencemen by now but they are not for whatever reason. They are still young, there is still a chance one of them improves but it could take a while longer. Which defenceman is available who BM can trade a couple of our scratched players for who can play with Karlsson & cover his ass & make him better than he showed tonight?

Yes, you are right, IMHO. Karlssson would be much better off with a healthy Methot who had training camp with him. but that's not the way its gone down. Right now in the here and now Karlsson is being left out to hang and dry because Methot isn't healthy to give it. I'd love Methot to be right there with EK65. We'd be better for it and Karlsson wouln't be trying to do it all himself and looking like bollocks. I get your angle but it's not for EK's lack of trying.

 

[ottawa]

Just got back from the game, easily the most exciting sens game I've been too. Probably not the outcome most of you wanted but sens were lucky to come out with even a point. Anderson had a pretty good game and so did the offense, especially Turris and Ryan. Defense was awful for the most part, not sure how Cowen looked on TV but he looked good there.


edit: Zibby with his first too

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Just got back from the game, easily the most exciting sens game I've been too. Probably not the outcome most of you wanted but sens were lucky to come out with even a point. Anderson had a pretty good game and so did the offense, especially Turris and Ryan. Defense was awful for the most part, not sure how Cowen looked on TV but he looked good there.


edit: Zibby with his first too

He looked steady. Had an active stick and his pivots and speed look alot better. He could've been much stronger on the Toews goal though

 

[OgieO]

One of Cowen or PW have to pick it up. Both show some good then some bad.

Kids deserve more time - Ceci, Stone, Hoffman, Lazar. Let them play and push the vets

Get Legwand off the PP. I know they want a LHS out there but he is not the answer. Hoffman would work well in that spot.

 

[ottawa]

He looked steady. Had an active stick and his pivots and speed look alot better. He could've been much stronger on the Toews goal though

Didn't watch the preseason but from what I remember hearing he wasn't good. He looked great last game I saw of his and tonight he was definitely one of the better ones. Hope this is a trend, one of my fave sens.

Ceci is also pretty damn awesome...kid went to my school (a year younger) but it was great to see him play in person for the first time.