Tatum is having just as good a year as Lauri, if not even better. 48% FGs and 46% threes. GOAT shooter Lauri is at 43% and 36%.
Tatum has only 3,1 3pt attempts per game, Lauri has 6,4.
Hoisting more and missing more.
Oh, so now the only [/] thing McDavi has accomplished doesn't matter? I mean, it's the one thing anybody can say to his defense, he done did lead the league in scoring. Well, Markkanen shattered the 3 point made record in such a short amount of time for a rookie it's practically unbreakable now. Did McDavid break anything that impressive besides his collar bone?At what point did I say that was the requirement? Oh nowhere you're just making up more rubbish to argue against to pretend you're on top here but fooling nobody except your tag partner.
Who is looking down on Markannen doing that? Provide examples or is it more crap you're making up.
One has proven he can be the highest scorer in his league over a full season. One has proven he can be the 53rd best over half a season lol.
It seems you have some big issues with McDavid, maybe take it to the main board I couldn't care less about him.
No, you can't argue 15ppg is equivalent to ppg lol. Currently 27 people are at ppg in the NHL, including guys who have played 5 and 2 games. Far cry from 53. Most won't even sustain it, last year only 11 did it come end of season, including two guys who played 1 game.
What ppeopl hype in America is so far removed from the point, just seems to be another thing you're bitter about lol.
Oh, so now the only [/] thing McDavi has accomplished doesn't matter? I mean, it's the one thing anybody can say to his defense, he done did lead the league in scoring. Well, Markkanen shattered the 3 point made record in such a short amount of time for a rookie it's practically unbreakable now. Did McDavid break anything that impressive besides his collar bone?
I mean, McDavid lead the league in scoring his second year. He did it.
Markkanen destroyed the rookie 100 three points made in half a year. He did it.
While averaging 15 points a game on possibly the weakest team in the NBA.
Ouch. I mean, let's not gloss over the honest fact that the Oilers were a Cup favorite this year because of McDavid, and there looking to be right where the Bulls will hopefully be in the draft lottery. Hopefully, because even on a bad team, the Bulls, with Markkanen being a huge reason why, are playing too good with him on the court and have been embarrassed with him off the last two games. But hey, it's not like the Oilers are losing big without McD, they're losing big with him and all the points he gets, right?
Toews never lead the league in scoring. Is he not a franchise player?
Magic never lead the league in scoring. Him too?
Kris Bryant won the MVP and a title. I've been told he's not a franchise player.
What is it?
(I will be back later to prove more points. I have ribs in the oven)[/I]
Wait, so breaking a rookie record that was just covered by...oh, everyone including the NBA is now suddenly "ridiculous"? Tell me, if it was ridiculous, then calling Curry when he did it was ridiculous also? Of course it's ridiculous to you, because Markkanen was the one who crushed it. Context says somebody every year will lead the league in scoring, but not every rookie will ever come close to touching the record Markkanen just destroyed.Lol at trying to put breaking that three point record on the same level as leading the league in scoring, you get more ridiculous by the post.
Please show me where I said leading the league in scoring is required to be a franchise player. I'll wait. I did say if Markannen can do it then sure. Will seem reasonable for me to give Markannen that label if he can do that.
Hell, even show me where I said McDavid is a franchise player. I'll wait for that too.
What I did point out is that it's ridiculous comparing "Lauri" at this point to a guy who won the Art Ross.
Come back when you can do better than putting words in my mouth then trying to argue them. It's weak and boring.
Unless you can show me where I said you need to lead the league in scoring to be a franchise player your response is nothing more than made up crap. Perhaps English is not your first language and you need to go back and read the posts again?
Yes. By trying to talk Bulls.Keep posting KBIB. That hole you are digging is getting bigger with every post.
Wait, so breaking a rookie record that was just covered by...oh, everyone including the NBA is now suddenly "ridiculous"? Tell me, if it was ridiculous, then calling Curry when he did it was ridiculous also? Of course it's ridiculous to you, because Markkanen was the one who crushed it. Context says somebody every year will lead the league in scoring, but not every rookie will ever come close to touching the record Markkanen just destroyed.
Ouch.
But let's get into the whole "franchise" label. If Markkanen can lead the league, he is one, but, all of a sudden, McDavid isn't for doing just that. Then, while obviously triggered, you go off on how you never called McD a franchise player yet, give Markkanen the definition of what it would take for him to be considered one in your opinion.
I can't even make this up. The spin cycle is at full ultra rotation.
I get it. Coming into a pro Bulls thread where Bulls fans are actually happy with a trade that was picked apart by mis-informed pundits, aka; the hottest thread in this entire BB forum, is far too temping to come in and derail. I don't see any Bulls fans in this thread saying anything bad about Butler or the Wolves outside of it was the time for him to go. What i do see, is the randoms here jumping all over pro-Bulls fans with negativity similar to what killed the baseball forum here and what's ruining the major forums. The fact it's always the same five or six posters ruining every thread on account of it's not "forum correct" to actually cheer on your team is astounding.
Since Asia is my "tag team partner" and with his Finnish education,you know, one of the best education structures in the entire world, sorry if I take what he says a little more to heart then one of the same old stand bys who post everywhere offering a negative opinion in every forum they post. Actually, the same Bulls homers have all been extremely critical of the Bulls in general yet have seen what Markkanen has done and see the potential in the guy that's suddenly a strict taboo.
But alas, you just can't reap praise on a player here. And that's a shame. The hive mind has been broken as easily as LM shoots a three. Seemless. Effortless. Without challenge only because defending Markkanen is easy. The guys a star. A franchise player. I mean, who is any of the randoms trying to convince? Me? A different Bulls "Homer"? It's not working. As somebody who has actually watched every minute to every Bulls game (waves hand) me, I take full responsibility in everything I have stated about LM. It's ok, click Basketball reference and bring up stats that, when compared to Connor "generational" McDavid are not only similar, but Markkanens might be just a tad better in terms of impact, nobody who wants to refer to LM as "just a guy" wants to hear that. Especially from a Bulls fan.
I really don't see myself in any thread that isn't Bulls related. Even in the baseball forum, I rarely reply to people, just post a positive about the Cubs and watch the hive tear it apart. It's ok. Vent. Tell everyone just how bad things are and I'll just keep on posting the positive which, is what the dedicated fans in this thread have been doing.
Positives, as in, just how horrible the Bulls have been with Markkanen out and how they will look with him back tomorrow.
Do keep posting tho. Surely Lauri isn't done proving my points for me.
He also has the most points ever scored by a Finnish basketball player in the NBAFastest player to hit 100 3 pointers. (41 games) Most 3 pt made in game by 7 footer (8 3pts, tied with Dirk)
He is 81st this year in 3p%.It's not that simple. If rookie scores 15 PPG it tells about talent. If rookie scores 15 PPG and shoots 3s better than anyone on the history, it tells about something more.
What if he turns out to be best long range shooter ever seen on NBA?
He did if you look at PPG, which is how you judge basketball scoring.McDavid sure didn't finish in the top 50 in his rookie season, am I right? Granted, he was injured, but then again, Markkanen played injured for almost an entire month.
Tatum has only 3,1 3pt attempts per game, Lauri has 6,4.
He also has the most points ever scored by a Finnish basketball player in the NBA
He is 81st this year in 3p%.
better than anyone in history? Not even better than 80 players in this league, including a plethora of big men (Mirotic, KAT, Horford, Olynyk, for example).
Mirotic has more 3 attempts and a much higher shooting percentage.
Nor does it take too long to surpass 7 footers.Yes he does, didn't take too long to surpass Hannu Möttölä.
I mean better than any rookie at the history. 3p% will raise in future & Ovechkin is also 66st at shooting percentage.
Yes that's true but he has been almost 4 years in NBA. Lauri has better numbers as a rookie.
Nor does it take too long to surpass 7 footers.
He is in fact 8th in 3P% amongst rookies. This year. He has also not made the most 3Ps among rookies. This year. Not sure about historically cause that doesn’t make sense when he’s not leading this year alone.
Comparing Markkanen’s shooting percentage to Ovechkin’s ignores fundamental differences between the importance of efficiency in hockey and basketball as well as differences in defensive strategy. For an obvious example, there’s no goalie in basketball
You will admit Kyle Kuzma is better than Markkanen, then, right?
Kuzma is a better passer than Markkanen and outscores/outshoots him. He’s become a better defender and Markkanen is bigger and thus should outrebound him. You’re constantly moving the goalposts to save your beloved Markkanen. But I’m sorry, if you shoot at a better percentage in the NBA, that means you’re a better shooter. Inefficiency matters
I mean better than any rookie at the history. 3p% will raise in future & Ovechkin is also 66st at shooting percentage.
We can compare Markkanen to other freshman and he outscores every single one with wide margin. That is more than enough.
You are full of it lol. Lillard in his rookie year shot just as good as Lauri. As for this year Tatum is shooting much better % than Lauri.
More rubbish. Tatum is a year younger than Lauri and has been every bit as good. Also has 43-36% advantage in 3-point %.
Yeah his shooting percentage could get better but it isn’t now. Tatum’s could get better. Markkanen’s could get worse. You can’t just speculate and state it as fact. The fact is that Markkanen is 8th best in shooting threes in this rookie class alone, not to mention historically.Full of what? I was done with whole discussion before someone bring this up. His shooting % could be better at the moment, but that doesn't mean it will continue same way in future.
Lauri is outscoring Tatum with way more rebounds, assists are even & Lauri plays in Chicago. He has advantage in 3-point % & Lauri has advantage 3p made per game. Can't say much about him, because stats doesn't tell enough. Does he have any kind of playmaking abilities?
Do you think Kuzma will have better career than Markkanen? Kuzma is 2 years older & has way more experience against good competition, but gets still burned at defense and does more turnovers than Markkanen. Markkanen is freshman coming from College. Two years ago he was playing in Finnish second division against amateurs (doesn't get any money about it), while Kuzma was already in his second year at College. I know you don't understand the difference in experience at all, but can you even try?
We can compare Markkanen to other freshman and he outscores every single one with wide margin. That is more than enough.
Full of what? I was done with whole discussion before someone bring this up. His shooting % could be better at the moment, but that doesn't mean it will continue same way in future.
Lol did you just use putting up stats on a bad team as an argument FOR your guy?& Lauri plays in Chicago.
Yeah his shooting percentage could get better but it isn’t now. Tatum’s could get better. Markkanen’s could get worse. You can’t just speculate and state it as fact. The fact is that Markkanen is 8th best in shooting threes in this rookie class alone, not to mention historically.
Tatum is also on a team where he’s the third option typically but yes he has playmaking abilities.
Ah so once again we move the goalposts? It’s now down to only rookies who were one and dones? If you keep narrowing the field, of course Markkanen will be better.
Kuzma has a better assist to turnover ratio than Markkanen
Lol did you just use putting up stats on a bad team as an argument FOR your guy?
He's a good rookie playing on a rubbish team. He should be putting up stats. Harder to do on a good team.