Didn't Atleti destroy Chelsea in the CL ?
Well they swapped Torres and Costa since....
Didn't Atleti destroy Chelsea in the CL ?
You're right. And they went from barely beating PSG to barely losing to PSG. Clearly, they're better.
Would be great to see Boga playing RB !
I get what you mean but the inferior club thing is very debatable.
Sorry but I have to argue this (BTW I hate Chelsea so I have no bias)
GK- Courtois vs. Moya; Winner: Courtois
LB- Azpilicueta vs. Filipe Luis; Winner: Filipe Luis
CB- Terry vs. Godin; Winner: Godin
CB- Cahill vs. Gimenez; Winner: Cahill
RB- Ivanovic vs Juanfran; Winner: Juanfran
LM- Hazard vs Ferreira; Winner: Hazard
CM- Fabregas vs Gabi; Winner Fabregas
CM- Matic vs Tiago Mendes; Winner: Matic
RM- Willian vs Coke; Winner: Willian
ST- Costa vs Griezmann; Winner: Costa
ST- Falcao vs Martinez; Winner: Martinez
Chelsea 7-4 Athletico Madrid
this is just imo
Its because Moaninho has never consistently had a long career at any club he's been at. He always performs like a top 10 manager in the world the first year, but his personality flaws get the better of him and he always does something stupid to lose the dressing room. This time around, how he treated a woman doctor had big implications on the season. He tried to justify his subpar start to a woman doctor who decided to come on the pitch and "waste time". Actually I have no problems if Moaninho wants a male doctor in an all male sport, but how he conducted it was truly tasteless (which is why the media had a field day with the story). Moaninho carries a lot of baggage and even if he is a top 10 manager the first year, his history and record speaks for itself for the years that follow, to the point that if you consider EVERYTHING, he really isn't a very good manager to big with. Yes he won some trophies here and there, but he doesn't even come close to Wenger's trophy cabinet (and everyone here knows my beef concerning Wenger as well). There are better managers out there which could do a better job consistently over Moaninho. Moaninho also destroyed this team by selling Schurrle and KdB, two players who could easily be better than the likes of Willian and Diving Oscar. Then he put all his money and transfer targets on only ONE CB, which Everton was never going to sell. Football is the most played sport with like 270 million active players, he can't find another CB?!You aren't going to get anyone better, so why fire Mourinho? How about the players just play better?
Yes he won some trophies here and there, but he doesn't even come close to Wenger's trophy cabinet (and everyone here knows my beef concerning Wenger as well).
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No dude. Wenger comes nowhere near close. Mourinho's won 8 leagues, 2 CL's, one UEFA Cup. Wenger's never won a single European trophy.
I'm not wrong. You just said that Wenger had a bigger set of trophies. I don't care where Wenger could have gone. He hasn't won more trophies. You are wrong.I knew that this would come up, but you're wrong. And I will tell you why, if we put Wenger of 6-8 years ago on Real Madrid or Barcelona, you're telling me that Wenger would have never won any Champion's Leagues? If he goes on already established clubs with the already talent placed on both of those teams, he would murder the La Liga and Europe. Wenger is his own worst enemy because he hates to spend due to him trusting too much of the players he already has. Put him on a club which had a prime Xavi, prime Inesita, prime Puyol, prime Alonso, young Messi, young Ronaldo, prime Kaka, prime Sneijder, and a prime van der Vaart. Wenger would do some serious damage.
I knew that this would come up, but you're wrong. And I will tell you why, if we put Wenger of 6-8 years ago on Real Madrid or Barcelona, you're telling me that Wenger would have never won any Champion's Leagues? If he goes on already established clubs with the already talent placed on both of those teams, he would murder the La Liga and Europe. Wenger is his own worst enemy because he hates to spend due to him trusting too much of the players he already has. Put him on a club which had a prime Xavi, prime Inesita, prime Puyol, prime Alonso, young Messi, young Ronaldo, prime Kaka, prime Sneijder, prime van der Vaart, Ibrah, and Robben. Wenger would do some serious damage.
I'm hearing tandem of Ancelotti and Makelele.
Former fired coach and coach who was fired from Bastia in a heartbeat after being awful.
Griezmann is the best forward in both teams.
Arguably better than hazard.
Koke is better than willian... and gimenez looks like a future top 5 cb
I knew that this would come up, but you're wrong. And I will tell you why, if we put Wenger of 6-8 years ago on Real Madrid or Barcelona, you're telling me that Wenger would have never won any Champion's Leagues? If he goes on already established clubs with the already talent placed on both of those teams, he would murder the La Liga and Europe. Wenger is his own worst enemy because he hates to spend due to him trusting too much of the players he already has. Put him on a club which had a prime Xavi, prime Inesita, prime Puyol, prime Alonso, young Messi, young Ronaldo, prime Kaka, prime Sneijder, prime van der Vaart, Ibrah, and Robben. Wenger would do some serious damage.
How many more lives does Jose Mourinho have until his time is up at Chelsea? Their latest performances have been abysmal. If he does get fired, who do you see coming in?
Coaching Replacement Possibilities:
-Carlo Angelotti
-Pep Guardiola (lol)
-Brendan Rodgers
-Diego Simone (lol)
-Guus Hiddink
If I were to make a joint Chelsea-Atleti squad:
Costa
Hazard - Koke - Griezmann
Matic - Fabregas
Filipe Luis - Godin - Gimenez - Azpilicueta
Courtois
Simeone has revamped Atelti during the last transfer window, he's built a team with an eye towards the future filled with offensive weapons, he now can go out an attack pretty much any team without feeling outgunned. This is the biggest test in his coaching career, can he guide a team that isn't all about structural defence and still win? That remains to be seen and I'd imagine he won't leave until he either succeeds or completely fails with this new group.
So does Zouma, and Cahill is better right now.
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No dude. Wenger comes nowhere near close. Mourinho's won 8 leagues, 2 CL's, one UEFA Cup. Wenger's never won a single European trophy. Can you math?