Player Discussion Charles Hudon

[jaffy27]

Hudon-Suzki-Evans

Ma parole

 

[26Mats]

Ma parole

Don't worry it will be either Lehkonen or Hudon with Suzuki and Armia, not Evans.

I will say, I've liked Evans on the wing so far. Didn't get to see him at center the other night. But my instincts tell me to start him off on the wing - in the top 9 - to get him used to the speed of the NHL game.

 

[sandysan]

I've always been a Hudon believer. Really hope he's able to figure it out in the NHL.

charlie brown, lucy is gonna pull the football away again this time, and next time as well

 

[ClasslessGuy]

He's probably trilled to play with weise and weal

And he's playing on the 4rth with Weise and Evans

 

[Schwang]

hopefully it's just the one game and he gets sent back down for Friday's game in Rochester (he wouldn't have to travel very far) or if he can make it back for Saturday's game vs Utica.

Good point. I guess we’ll see if there’s any concern about Laval making a playoff run.

 

[BLONG7]

Good AHL guy.....................can't do it in the NHL anymore...

 

[Fixxer]

Good AHL guy.....................can't do it in the NHL anymore...

Every time he gets an NHL opportunity, he can't shine. He did early on when he got called up the first time, a few years ago. Now that he's basically become an AHL regular, he seems to be holding his stick too tight, like he also did in training camp and last season. I find that he's even faster than I expected. I believe it's a matter of his (lack of) confidence in the NHL. Not having much icetime and knowing that he's one mistake away from being even used less, benched or sent back to Laval.

 

[26Mats]

Every time he gets an NHL opportunity, he can't shine. He did early on when he got called up the first time, a few years ago. Now that he's basically become an AHL regular, he seems to be holding his stick too tight, like he also did in training camp and last season. I find that he's even faster than I expected. I believe it's a matter of his (lack of) confidence in the NHL. Not having much icetime and knowing that he's one mistake away from being even used less, benched or sent back to Laval.

we know Lehkonen-Suzuki-Armia won't work. Why not try Hudon-Suzuki-Armia or Hudon-Suzuki-Lehkonen?

Honestly, Hudon-Plekanec-Lehkonen had some good moments together. I'd try Hudon-Suzuki-Lehkonen first. Can't put Armia on the 4th line? Yes, you can.

 

[BaseballCoach]

we know Lehkonen-Suzuki-Armia won't work. Why not try Hudon-Suzuki-Armia or Hudon-Suzuki-Lehkonen?

Honestly, Hudon-Plekanec-Lehkonen had some good moments together. I'd try Hudon-Suzuki-Lehkonen first. Can't put Armia on the 4th line? Yes, you can.

You can put Armia on the third line and Weal on the 4th

 

[peate]

After all the chances he got, it's obvious from watching him last night, the final step is too high for him. He 'll have to get claimed cause he ain't going any higher here.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Every time he gets an NHL opportunity, he can't shine. He did early on when he got called up the first time, a few years ago. Now that he's basically become an AHL regular, he seems to be holding his stick too tight, like he also did in training camp and last season. I find that he's even faster than I expected. I believe it's a matter of his (lack of) confidence in the NHL. Not having much icetime and knowing that he's one mistake away from being even used less, benched or sent back to Laval.

Don’t remember him ever getting much opportunity. The coaching staff don’t like him for whatever reason. I’m surprised, I thought he fit in with CJ. He’s an NHLer, he just needs to be given a real shot. Seasons over, give him some ice time and let him play. What do we have to lose at this point. It’s not like we can ruin his development. I think he’s good enough without a doubt.

I know a lot of people don’t feel the same way, but I think they are letting the coaches handling of him dictate the narrative. Come on Charles, prove everyone wrong.

 

[Fixxer]

Don’t remember him ever getting much opportunity. The coaching staff don’t like him for whatever reason. I’m surprised, I thought he fit in with CJ. He’s an NHLer, he just needs to be given a real shot. Seasons over, give him some ice time and let him play. What do we have to lose at this point. It’s not like we can ruin his development. I think he’s good enough without a doubt.

I know a lot of people don’t feel the same way, but I think they are letting the coaches handling of him dictate the narrative. Come on Charles, prove everyone wrong.

Him fanning on PP opportunities when being used at the right circle has been the thing hurting him the most. I remember it in pre-season and it happened in last night's game. He scores on these chances in the AHL. He can't afford to do less than get good scoring opportunities. Anyway, he's 25 and opportunities come in smaller samples by that age. I like him and I'd like if he was able to score a bit.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Him fanning on PP opportunities when being used at the right circle has been the thing hurting him the most. I remember it in pre-season and it happened in last night's game. He scores on these chances in the AHL. He can't afford to do less than get good scoring opportunities. Anyway, he's 25 and opportunities come in smaller samples by that age. I like him and I'd like if he was able to score a bit.

I think he knows his leash is short and he’s not playing his game. Take him aside and tell him he’s going to play even if he makes a mistake or two.

 

[26Mats]

You can put Armia on the third line and Weal on the 4th

I didn't see last game. But from the highlights, Weal was generating offense, no?

But really, I'd like to see:

Tatar Suzuki Hudon/Evans
Byron Domi Gallagher
Lehkonen Danault Armia (play against opposition's best offensive line)
Weise Evans/Weal Weal/Hudon

 

[sandysan]

Don’t remember him ever getting much opportunity. The coaching staff don’t like him for whatever reason. I’m surprised, I thought he fit in with CJ. He’s an NHLer, he just needs to be given a real shot. Seasons over, give him some ice time and let him play. What do we have to lose at this point. It’s not like we can ruin his development. I think he’s good enough without a doubt.

I know a lot of people don’t feel the same way, but I think they are letting the coaches handling of him dictate the narrative. Come on Charles, prove everyone wrong.

If Charles hudon is the answer, we are asking the wrong goddamned questions

 

[Andrei79]

Don’t remember him ever getting much opportunity. The coaching staff don’t like him for whatever reason. I’m surprised, I thought he fit in with CJ. He’s an NHLer, he just needs to be given a real shot. Seasons over, give him some ice time and let him play. What do we have to lose at this point. It’s not like we can ruin his development. I think he’s good enough without a doubt.

I know a lot of people don’t feel the same way, but I think they are letting the coaches handling of him dictate the narrative. Come on Charles, prove everyone wrong.

I tend to side with the coaches on this one. I don't see an NHLer in Hudon. He's not fast, strong or skilled enough. Guys with his one timer are everywhere in the NHL, we keep laughing at Galchy, but he had an even better one. His offense can't make up for all the one on ones he loses or his weak possession game. It's just too modest and it's limited even more by his size and strength. I hope I'm wrong about the kid because I like him too, but he's that typical guy that's too good for the AHL, but not enough for the NHL.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

If Charles hudon is the answer, we are asking the wrong goddamned questions

You clearly didn’t read my post.

 

[Asamu]

The question is still why we signed him in the first place when he was out of the portrait anyway? He's still ''un petit gars de chez nous'' and I'll always be from Saguenay after all. I've never seen a 5th rounder had that amount of chances to prove himself. He got a good wrister against AHL goalies and to me, his potential capped 3 years ago.

 

[26Mats]

The question is still why we signed him in the first place when he was out of the portrait anyway? He's still ''un petit gars de chez nous'' and I'll always be from Saguenay after all. I've never seen a 5th rounder had that amount of chances to prove himself. He got a good wrister against AHL goalies and to me, his potential capped 3 years ago.

He's a minor league injury replacement. Even if he's "overpaid", his salary counts 0 against the cap when he's in laval and close to the league minimum when he's in Montreal.

He's had a good season in Laval and in particular has been a good linemate for KK. Of all the moves and non-moves Bergevin has and hasn't made, this isn't one I spend a quarter of a second thinking negatively about.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I tend to side with the coaches on this one. I don't see an NHLer in Hudon. He's not fast, strong or skilled enough. Guys with his one timer are everywhere in the NHL, we keep laughing at Galchy, but he had an even better one. His offense can't make up for all the one on ones he loses or his weak possession game. It's just too modest and it's limited even more by his size and strength. I hope I'm wrong about the kid because I like him too, but he's that typical guy that's too good for the AHL, but not enough for the NHL.

He's a minor league injury replacement. Even if he's "overpaid", his salary counts 0 against the cap when he's in laval and close to the league minimum when he's in Montreal.

He's had a good season in Laval and in particular has been a good linemate for KK. Of all the moves and non-moves Bergevin has and hasn't made, this isn't one I spend a quarter of a second thinking negatively about.

It's possible that Hudon won't cut it in the NHL no matter who he is played with, but perhaps he could be tried with KK and Armia. KK obviously likes feeding him, and Armia makes up for some of the things Hudon lacks.

Suzuki is struggling a bit at C right now and could use a bit less defensive responsibility so that he can create, like Kane, Radulov and other all-round wingers.

With Drouin hurt, I might try:

Tatar-Domi-Suzuki (Suzuki takes draws on right side)
Byron-Danault-Gallagher
Hudon-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Lehkonen-Evans-Weal

I think that first line could be really productive when Max is playing well.

 

[Fixxer]

He's a minor league injury replacement. Even if he's "overpaid", his salary counts 0 against the cap when he's in laval and close to the league minimum when he's in Montreal.

He's had a good season in Laval and in particular has been a good linemate for KK. Of all the moves and non-moves Bergevin has and hasn't made, this isn't one I spend a quarter of a second thinking negatively about.

Hudon is about at the same spot as Peca was. In the .. 17-18 season, Hudon was up all year, something Peca never had the chance to in his career. What I mean by that is that Peca knows he's going up and down but a guy like Hudon thought he made the NHL during that 17-18 season. Then he decided to get bigger and he lost some speed and he didn't have much else to offer. This season he got leaner, but he couldn't make the most of his opportunities in the big league. We'll see when he plays again and I wish him good luck. And yeah, he needs to loosen up instead of forcing things, but he has limited opportunities these days, so it leads to that.

 

[sandysan]

You clearly didn’t read my post.

I most certainly did

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I most certainly did

I don’t wish to engage with people who misconstrue posts and create strawman arguments. If you think I said Charles Hudon was the answer in any of my posts that I have ever wrote then your reading comprehension is lacking or you’re lying. I don’t think it’s lack of comprehension. I’d prefer not to discuss this with you any further.

 

[SOLR]

I think he knows his leash is short and he’s not playing his game. Take him aside and tell him he’s going to play even if he makes a mistake or two.

I would sign him for next year so we can tank in peace.

 

[Whitesnake]

Insane that this guy is here and not helping Laval. Same with Evans. Awesome vision that GM has....