Proposal: CGY/NJD

[Smitty426]

Yeah, I do agree that upgrades within the organization have to start with a head coach firing. Trading away pieces before you can figure it out isn't the smartest move at all.

Top D will still be an issue next yr
Luke and Simon WILL be great but not be enough until after next season.

 

[My3Sons]

NJ doesn’t need another soft defender. At this point NJ seems to be thr only team interested in Markstrom. Apparently NJ has already said no to a trade for Mercer.

 

[SnipeNCelly]

NJ doesn’t need another soft defender. At this point NJ seems to be thr only team interested in Markstrom. Apparently NJ has already said no to a trade for Mercer.

NJ needs more goals than they allow lol
A single tough d man won't get lord stanley

 

[My3Sons]

NJ needs more goals than they allow lol
A single tough d man won't get lord stanley

Neither will adding another soft defender

 

[SnipeNCelly]

Neither will adding another soft defender

That says more about NJ

 

[My3Sons]

That says more about NJ

Ok but it also says NJ shouldn’t trade for Hanifin. I’m not saying he is not talented or capable just that he isn’t a fit for them. He’d be great on a team with a heavy defense

 

[SnipeNCelly]

Ok but it also says NJ shouldn’t trade for Hanifin. I’m not saying he is not talented or capable just that he isn’t a fit for them. He’d be great on a team with a heavy defense

Well from what I see they need defense no? Whens dougie back? And don't they wanna make playoffs ? Hanifins been playing very good so that's why I think he would be a good addition

 

[My3Sons]

Well from what I see they need defense no? Whens dougie back? And don't they wanna make playoffs ? Hanifins been playing very good so that's why I think he would be a good addition

Let’s see NJ win a few games ina row before we talk about playoffs .

 

[SnipeNCelly]

Let’s see NJ win a few games ina row before we talk about playoffs .

Exactly why the trade proposal would help . Almost no defense and goaltending

 

[My3Sons]

Exactly why the trade proposal would help . Almost no defense and goaltending

And they are supposed to trade a first round pick plus for the privilege of missing the playoffs? That’s poor management. Let him go to the Bruins.

 

[Scintillating10]

J Markstrom 33%retained
N.Hanifin 50%retained( with extention in place)
M.Coronato

For

A.Holtz
2024 1st ( becomes 2025 1st if NJ makes eastern conference because of SJ trade)
D.Mercer
N.daws( flames flip)

Who says no ?

Devils don't make playoffs often. Be tempting for them.

A Lot their deals like this haven't worked out though. Meier, Hamilton been hurt a lot also.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Good lord absolutely not.

 

[Zubrus Coffee Maker]

As a Devils fan I don't understand the need to compete this year. We have one of the youngest cores in the NHL, let this year be a learning experience and use the off-season to fix the goaltending issue. I believe in our young guys, I think the defense will fix itself over time, rather than drop a couple of 22 year olds in the NHL for an aging goalie and another expensive long term deal for a Defenseman that doesn't improve the toughness of the squad. Markstrom and Hanifin are great NHL players having good seasons and both would improve the Devils a lot this year, but I dont get the rush to win right now,

I'm sure the value isnt there for Calgary judging from the responses in this thread and that's ok, I personally think teams that are further down their competitive window should be looking for Markstrom and Hanifin rather than the Devils.

I think the number 1 way the Devils can fumble the bag is to deal a ton of assets to compete now, when they can use those guys during the window. I think in a year or 2 when Luke and Nemec have (theoretically) improved is when the Devils should be throwing futures out for a run or two.

 

[crackdown44]

Hughes-Hamilton
Hanifin-Nemec

Top 4 would be kinda cool long term. First pair = heavy o-zone starts, try and play them with Jack as much as possible. 2nd pair = shutdown pair, get them out there with Nico matched against opponents top lines

 

[Forge]

As a Devils fan I don't understand the need to compete this year. We have one of the youngest cores in the NHL, let this year be a learning experience and use the off-season to fix the goaltending issue. I believe in our young guys, I think the defense will fix itself over time, rather than drop a couple of 22 year olds in the NHL for an aging goalie and another expensive long term deal for a Defenseman that doesn't improve the toughness of the squad. Markstrom and Hanifin are great NHL players having good seasons and both would improve the Devils a lot this year, but I dont get the rush to win right now,

I'm sure the value isnt there for Calgary judging from the responses in this thread and that's ok, I personally think teams that are further down their competitive window should be looking for Markstrom and Hanifin rather than the Devils.

I think the number 1 way the Devils can fumble the bag is to deal a ton of assets to compete now, when they can use those guys during the window. I think in a year or 2 when Luke and Nemec have (theoretically) improved is when the Devils should be throwing futures out for a run or two.

I have no inclination to buy rentals or make moves like Markstrom right now. Getting Hanifin and extending him at least makes sense if they are interested. He's a good player, so at least I understand why they want him and if they want him, that does have to be done now (unlike Markstrom, if they were only trading for the goaltender). So if they ultimately made a Markstrom + hanafin move, I'm not going to be upset or anything. That's not a win now move, that's a win now + into the future move.

 

[SnipeNCelly]

I have no inclination to buy rentals or make moves like Markstrom right now. Getting Hanifin and extending him at least makes sense if they are interested. He's a good player, so at least I understand why they want him and if they want him, that does have to be done now (unlike Markstrom, if they were only trading for the goaltender). So if they ultimately made a Markstrom + hanafin move, I'm not going to be upset or anything. That's not a win now move, that's a win now + into the future move.

Sp in other words you're content with less than mediocre goaltending? You also fail to realize Hamilton is on LTIR so money is off books for playoffs . They instantly become better with markstrom and hanifin ..

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Sp in other words you're content with less than mediocre goaltending? You also fail to realize Hamilton is on LTIR so money is off books for playoffs . They instantly become better with markstrom and hanifin ..

thank you for telling Devils fans that Hamilton is on LTIR, we did not realize!!

 

[Forge]

Sp in other words you're content with less than mediocre goaltending? You also fail to realize Hamilton is on LTIR so money is off books for playoffs . They instantly become better with markstrom and hanifin ..

They aren't going anywhere this season, Markstrom or no. So no, I'm in no hurry to trade for Markstrom on his own. I don't think the price is higher in the off season and there are other options that may present themselves and more information available regarding potential options. I see very few ways in which they would regret waiting until the off season to make a move on a goalie at this juncture.

 

[thaman8765678]

I mean they were close to a deal and it fell apart twice. Likely because of Murray Edward's.

So, while I want some of these Devils assets, hard to see them trying a 3rd time.

 

[SnipeNCelly]

I'll circle back to this March 8th

 

[Smitty426]

Ok but it also says NJ shouldn’t trade for Hanifin. I’m not saying he is not talented or capable just that he isn’t a fit for them. He’d be great on a team with a heavy defense

When Bahls crushing it as our nasty guy

 

[Internazionale]

Horrible for the Flames.

 

[wetcoast]

If this was offered, it would've been accepted by now lol. But no

The thing is that New Jersey has been sleeping on a trade and their playoff aspirations probably went away today with their 4th loss in 6 games and to TB a team they are now 7 points behind and sure they have 2 games in hand but their season is slipped away.

 

[Forge]

The thing is that New Jersey has been sleeping on a trade and their playoff aspirations probably went away today with their 4th loss in 6 games and to TB a team they are now 7 points behind and sure they have 2 games in hand but their season is slipped away.

Yep. I do think they'll make the play this offseason for someone. I assume big game hunting

 

[Double Dion]

Yep. I do think they'll make the play this offseason for someone. I assume big game hunting

I've seen this quite a bit from NJD fans. I'm genuinely curious and trying to figure out the logic. Is there a goalie you think will shake loose in the offseason that fixes it? Is it that you think you can get it done for less assets in the offseason? Is it that you aren't sure which assets are keepers and which you should make available yet? I don't understand flushing the season with a good club that can't get a save THEN going and fixing it. Why not fix it now when you have the LTIR space and see if you can grab a playoff spot? The top of the East is very vulnerable, there's no team it would be a "waste of 8 days" against for NJ.