Confirmed Trade: [CGY/EDM] James Neal for Milan Lucic (12.5% retained) and a 2020 conditional 3rd round pick Part 2

[SI90]

This was quick lol

 

[Bond]

Sure feels like Tre lost this one.
Not a fan

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

So Edmonton pays 500k more + a 3rd to go from Lucic to Neal? To be honest, it's not really so much of a fleecing

 

[cyris]

I really don’t like this for Calgary.

Both are bad contracts but I have much more faith in Neal’s ability to have some kind of rebound season than I would Lucic.

Further more even if neither player can recover into something useful at least the Oilers can buyout Neal versus the Lucic contract which is almost buyout proof because of the signing bonuses. And lastly because of his NMC the Flames would have to protect Lucic in the expansion draft.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

But i thought it was going to take multiple firsts?

 

[BatVader]

I'm very happy with this. Holland gets an A on the summer just for getting rid of Lucic.

We got the better player in return, dropped the NMC and only had to take on marginal retention/give up a low pick. Not to mention that the buyout on James Neal isn't toxic like Lucic's.

Neal’s buyout is a lot more palatable...wow.
Who gave Chooch that contract?

 

[ZJuice]

No 1st round picks involved

 

[SI90]

Would anyone be shocked if Neal Scored 20+ goals this year? I wouldn’t

 

[DFF]

Both aren't NHLers at this point anymore. Nobody got fleeced.

Exactly... getting excited with Neal is quite pathetic to be honest

 

[JAK]

Assets in this deal ranked

Conditional 3rd Round Pick
12.5% Salary Retention
James Neal
Milan Lucic

 

[ZJuice]

Neal’s buyout is a lot more palatable...wow.
Who gave Chooch that contract?

Some people call him Toby but his real name is Peter

 

[ChaoticOrange]

That’s a sizeable win for Edmonton. Even if we do end up buying him out at the end of the season it’s worth it.

No first rounder. No high end prospect. No 50% retention. Suck it, every last one of you that said Edmonton would have to give up multiple high end assets to move him.

 

[780il]

Huge win for the Oilers to drop the Lucic contract but neither is a better player. Lateral move for both sides as far as what happens on the ice

Well Neal definitely has a higher chance of bouncing back. If Kassian can score 15 goals in ~40 games with Mcdavid/Draisaitl then Neal has potential for 20.

Even if he plays on the 2nd line with Nuge and puts up 15 goals + 35 points it's a huge win compared to what Lucic would have done for us.

 

[PensandCaps]

Great deal for Edm. Neal has a much better chance at being a postive player than Lucic. Shot at a fluke percentage last year. If Neal gets back to his career shooting% he'll be a for sure 20 goal guy next season.

 

[Snakepit]

I really don’t like this for Calgary.

Both are bad contracts but I have much more faith in Neal’s ability to have some kind of rebound season than I would Lucic.

Further more even if neither player can recover into something useful at least the Oilers can buyout Neal versus the Lucic contract which is almost buyout proof because of the signing bonuses. And lastly because of his NMC the Flames would have to protect Lucic in the expansion draft.

Bolded isn't known at this time. We know the trade was delayed because Calgary was trying to work that out. Hasn't been released where they landed on that

 

[RedBruin]

I just don't think you can go from an NHL All-Star to "not an NHL player" in one year without some kind of major dehabilitating injury like an achilles tear or something in 12 months flat.

He had a bad season on a team he didn't mesh with. Lets see how he does with McDavid and Draisaitl.

That's a fair enough point but that's universes away from saying that anybody got fleeced.

 

[Rockmorton]

Lucic (12.5% Ret) + Conditional 3rd for Neal

Wish KH would've only retained 5%-7% but Neal is by far the better player so makes sense.

In all seriousness, I’d temper your expectations. If he doesn’t find his scoring touch, Lucic is the better player.

(And yes I know how bad Lucic is)

 

[Soundwave]

Would anyone be shocked if Neal Scored 20+ goals this year? I wouldn’t

I wouldn't be stunned. He's scored at that rate for 9/10 years or something and now he gets to play with the best playmaking center on the planet and another high end passer in Draisaitl.

 

[MattySnipes]

So, Lucic with a salary of $6.0M and a Cap Hit/AAV of $6.0M is traded with 12.5% retention, Edmonton would continue to pay 12.5% of the $6.0M salary ($0.750M) and would continue to have a cap hit of $0.750M (12.5%) of the $6.0M Cap Hit for the next 4 years.

Imo, Holland's experience won this deal. Neal has much more to give than Lucic. $0.750M for 4 years is worth it.

 

[DFF]

No 1st round picks involved

No but u r stucked with the faked deal

 

[oilexport]

Seems like fair trade. Calgary gets tougher and edmonton gets more skill.

 

[780il]

This was quick lol

This is the first time I can truly say a Flames jersey looks beautiful!

 

[nabob]

So Edmonton pays 500k more + a 3rd to go from Lucic to Neal? To be honest, it's not really so much of a fleecing

We all know Lucic is nothing more than a 4th line plug at this point. The deciding factor will be if Neal can become anything decent.

 

[PensandCaps]

No 1st round picks involved

you're basically paying James neal 6+ mil. thats why no first round picks

 

[McFlyingV]

Huge win for the Oilers to drop the Lucic contract but neither is a better player. Lateral move for both sides as far as what happens on the ice

Statistically that is false though. In each of the past two seasons Neal produced at a better PPG and GPG. Lucic was given plenty of McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH time over that period. Last year when he lost the opportunity to play with McDavid and Drai, and a spot on the top PP his production fell off even more.