Confirmed Trade: [CGY/EDM] James Neal for Milan Lucic (12.5% retained) and a 2020 conditional 3rd round pick Part 2

[JT Kreider]

The summer of 2016 is going to go down in history as one of the great turning points when it comes to how contracts are handled

 

[Snakepit]

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and who is that

He's on Sportsnet

She's a writer for the Calgary Herald and Calgary Sun

Both are very connected

 

[Canuck Luck]

Did looch waive his nmc for expansion?

 

[holy]

Oilers walking away from this trade like

 

[Rockmorton]

For anyone not following along, the deal is:

Milan Lucic @ 12.5% retained
Conditional 3rd round pick

for

James Neal

Any word on the conditions?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Friedman issuing 10%

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Treliving got fleeced and it didn't cost us Draisaitl + 1st + bouchard to get rid of Lucic like I read on here.

 

[theVladiator]

So Looch will cost the Flames 5.25M per.

In cap hit. I believe since Lucic's 3M bonus was just paid, he was due 4M average over the next 4 years.

So now I guess it's 5.25M cap hit and 3.25M in actual money for the Flames?

 

[malcb33]

So does this mean Lucic doesn’t have to be protected in the expansion draft as he waived to trade protection clause? If Calgary looses a protection spot because of him, that’s a huge loss.

 

[agent082]

Most were expecting at least a 1st

Really?

 

[Skolman]

So does this mean Lucic doesn’t have to be protected in the expansion draft as he waived to trade protection clause? If Calgary looses a protection spot because of him, that’s a huge loss.

I don't believe so, I think he still has to be protected. I could be wrong though

 

[DFF]

Most were expecting at least a 1st

Well James the faked deal kinda mess that up. He is garbage himself

 

[Snakepit]

So does this mean Lucic doesn’t have to be protected in the expansion draft as he waived to trade protection clause? If Calgary looses a protection spot because of him, that’s a huge loss.

Haven't read anything confirmed yet but supposedly that was the holdup from the trade being done when it was first rumoured earlier today. I'd imagine it was a huge sticking point for Calgary so interesting to see how that shakes loose

 

[Soundwave]

Any word on the conditions?

Probably becomes a 2021 3rd is the Oilers miss the playoffs.

 

[backburner]

Maybe lucic will be bought out?

 

[780il]

I'm very happy with this. Holland gets an A on the summer just for getting rid of Lucic.

We got the better player in return, dropped the NMC and only had to take on marginal retention/give up a low pick. Not to mention that the buyout on James Neal isn't toxic like Lucic's.

 

[RedBruin]

Treliving got fleeced and it didn't cost us Draisaitl + 1st + bouchard to get rid of Lucic like I read on here.

Both aren't NHLers at this point anymore. Nobody got fleeced.

 

[Seanaconda]

So does this mean Lucic doesn’t have to be protected in the expansion draft as he waived to trade protection clause? If Calgary looses a protection spot because of him, that’s a huge loss.

I don't think those details are out yet. Apparently there was a holdup waiting on Lucic on something to do with the nmc so I'll assume it was to see if he would waive for expansion but idk

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

The lesson to be learned here is, apparently, no contract is untradeable.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Have the conditions been announced yet?

I’m guessing the conditions on the pick have to do with Neal’s point/goal totals?

Hopefully the 3rd can turn into a 2nd for calgary’s sake....

Definitely like this deal more for Edmonton, if only because Neal’s contract is easier to buy out.

 

[Soundwave]

Both aren't NHLers at this point anymore. Nobody got fleeced.

I just don't think you can go from an NHL All-Star to "not an NHL player" in one year without some kind of major dehabilitating injury like an achilles tear or something in 12 months flat.

He had a bad season on a team he didn't mesh with. Lets see how he does with McDavid and Draisaitl.

 

[Ciao]

How is Kenny doing now?

Pretty darned good, I would say!

 

[McFlyingV]

So does this mean Lucic doesn’t have to be protected in the expansion draft as he waived to trade protection clause? If Calgary looses a protection spot because of him, that’s a huge loss.

Pretty sure NMCs are retained after trades unless the player chooses not to keep it (which I doubt anyone would agree to). However, I still think he'd be willing to waive in the expansion draft especially if he has another poor year in Calgary. Seattle is so close to Vancouver and he's wanted to be closer to home in recent years.

 

[Snakepit]

I'm very happy with this. Holland gets an A on the summer just for getting rid of Lucic.

We got the better player in return, dropped the NMC and only had to take on marginal retention/give up a low pick. Not to mention that the buyout on James Neal isn't toxic like Lucic's.

Huge win for the Oilers to drop the Lucic contract but neither is a better player. Lateral move for both sides as far as what happens on the ice

 

[blue_n_copper]

I am starting to think this Holland guy might know what he is doing.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Maybe lucic will be bought out?

I doubt it. His contract is pretty tough to buy out.

They’d have been better off just buying out Neal if that was the plan.