Celtics/NBA Celtics/NBA 2018-2019 Regular Season II

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Tim Cabarrot dealt from OKC to Chicago for cash considerations

 

[Troublesome 85]

I just read some weird fantasy post on IG about a timeline this summer where they keep Irving, get AD and sign Cousins.................

 

[Troublesome 85]

Myself as well. The last few years have been real bad again. I am a playoff bandwagon fan for the Celtics and that's it.

Didn't Kyrie excitedly say he would be staying in Boston? A few months later and.... such drama. The entertainment is low to behind with.

NBA is low quality basketball anyways. Only March Madness is any fun now.

Stopped after the Celtics won their last chip. Bandwagon Celtics fans and tampering. Was getting back into it but all this soap opera drama

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

Since he got here last seasons, they win the vast majority of their home games he misses, largely due to playing poor competition, but look at their road record without Kyrie (it's bad).

They've also won exactly ONE road game without him in almost a year, and that was game 3 against Philly.

Criticize his comments all you want, it's a stupid thing to say, but they aren't going to be close to winning anything with Horford/Hayward/Tatum and whatever else if he leaves. They also aren't trading for Davis without Kyrie being here. They need him for the long haul.

If Ainge truly doesn't think he's re-signing, you'll see him dealt by the 7th.

First part is true. In home games the record without Kyrie is MUCH better. Road record is the opposite. But that is not unusual for a young team.

You are right, they are bviously not winning anything with the guys you mentioned, but if Danny is really high on Tatum and Brown, he can at least set back our window. Even with AD (and Kyrie) competing with the Warriors would be tough.

And the last part: If he knew, he would trade him, but while we all appreciate Danny, he's not some kind of magician. Why would he know? All he can do is taking Kyrie by his words. But make no mistake, if he think something is up, he will not hesitate to make a bold move. But I doubt he will. He always said that players like Kyrie and Davis are the endgame. He does not like young players just for the sake of them being young. He knows that those guys are not winning you anything. If his hands are forced, however...

If Irving were to be traded, I'd either trade him to the Nets for DAR/Harris or to the Knicks for Knox and unprotected future 1st rounder(s)

 

[smithformeragent]

I tried to like the Celtics growing up. I remember watching a handful of games a year in the early to mid 90s. Later on, was a fan of Antoine Walker. I tried again during the ‘04 NHL lockout and went to my only two games ever.

How can anyone enjoy this league?

You have very little parity.

You have GMs who make all of the right moves to build a contending team and then one prima dona can ruin the whole thing and hold the team hostage.

It has to be the worst league.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Kyrie says put egos and personalities aside. Watching last years playoffs i didn't see any egos. Sounds like your ego is the issue

 

[BostonBob]

I find it ironic as hell that Daddy is whining about the Celtics " loyalty " right after his son shows his loyalty by demanding a trade.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I find it ironic as hell that Daddy is whining about the Celtics " loyalty " right after his son shows his loyalty by demanding a trade.

Sure all true .

But at the same time Ainge has been pretty ruthless. From unloading Pierce and Garnett on the nets, to the Thomas deal. Certainly the deals have worked out for him.

But I could certainly see why an NBA player might look at Boston and think, trader Danny might be just as ruthless with them when the time comes

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

on court, 113-99 win, over the short-handed Knicks, due to the Porzingis trade, and here comes PG13/Westbrook et all, and the Thunder on ABC Sunday afternoon

 

[EverettMike]

I'd like to know what people think Ainge should have done with IT. He had one year left, was hurt, and they had a chance to get Kyrie Irving.

They were never, ever, ever giving him a big long term contract, so should they have kept him for one injury-shortened season and let him walk for free?

Was it ruthless to trade him when they did? Yes, obviously. But I don't really know what else the Celts were supposed to given the circumstances.

 

[chizzler]

Sure all true .

But at the same time Ainge has been pretty ruthless. From unloading Pierce and Garnett on the nets, to the Thomas deal. Certainly the deals have worked out for him.

But I could certainly see why an NBA player might look at Boston and think, trader Danny might be just as ruthless with them when the time comes

Works both ways. He’s being ruthless on his team now. They’ve invested in him and are trying to build around him. Now he forcing a trade. Have a tough time watching the NBA.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

how is having that over AD, any different than the Bruins, folks?

 

[KrejciMVP]

Works both ways. He’s being ruthless on his team now. They’ve invested in him and are trying to build around him. Now he forcing a trade. Have a tough time watching the NBA.

Kyrie is not acting like a professional

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Kyrie is not acting like a professional

and the Oilers and Senators ownership is professional?

 

[KrejciMVP]

and the Oilers and Senators ownership is professional?

I dont know but I watched the game yesterday and read about his antics in the media. Talented yes but very me first. I think he bails in the offseason. its either win it all this year or deal him. From the 5th seed though hard to win 3 series on the road

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

and the Oilers and Senators ownership is professional?

Comparing a single individual to two different organizations in a completely different sport has got to be the GOAT of worse comparisons

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

I dont know but I watched the game yesterday and read about his antics in the media. Talented yes but very me first. I think he bails in the offseason. its either win it all this year or deal him. From the 5th seed though hard to win 3 series on the road

he's not bailing, he has already stated no Cleveland and no rebuilding outpost, the only reason AD cannot come until after 7/1, is the foolishness contract Dan Gilbert signed Kyrie, too, how are the Cavaliers relevant in the NBA NOW that LeFaker has bolted them twice?

 

[JRull86]

I'd like to know what people think Ainge should have done with IT. He had one year left, was hurt, and they had a chance to get Kyrie Irving.

They were never, ever, ever giving him a big long term contract, so should they have kept him for one injury-shortened season and let him walk for free?

Was it ruthless to trade him when they did? Yes, obviously. But I don't really know what else the Celts were supposed to given the circumstances.

Seriously.

Any GM in the position Ainge was in would've made the same move.

Complaining about loyalty in sports, from either side, is ironic. Players will leave the second they get a better offer as a UFA, as is their right. GM's will move on from a guy to improve their team as well. There is zero loyalty in sports for the most part. If a player, or a players relative cannot see or understand that, they are dumb.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Seriously.

Any GM in the position Ainge was in would've made the same move.

Complaining about loyalty in sports, from either side, is ironic. Players will leave the second they get a better offer as a UFA, as is their right. GM's will move on from a guy to improve their team as well. There is zero loyalty in sports for the most part. If a player, or a players relative cannot see or understand that, they are dumb.

totally agree, and if you want to go further back, how loyal was Danny to the Blue Jays who drafted him but instead who convinced him to land in Boston, THAT'S WHY Ainge went to Sacramento and Phoenix later in his playing career

 

[N o o d l e s]

Crying about loyalty when your son just requested a trade is pretty hilarious

 

[chizzler]

Crying about loyalty when your son just requested a trade is pretty hilarious

DOubt he even has pondered that.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

should the Fakers get AD... IT WILL COST THEM GUESS WHO ?

RONDO

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Seriously.

Any GM in the position Ainge was in would've made the same move.

I agree with this in the Irving trade.

Honestly the Loyalty case that could be held against Danny is the Pierce (and to a lesser degree Garnett) deal. Trading a HOF , number retired face of the franchise world champion nearing the end of his career away to a complete dumpster fire franchise, is not a move every GM would do. Especially when the C's were still a legit playoff team before the deal.

Some of course would argue it was the right thing to do, and no doubt some on this board would deal Chara for a #1 tomorrow, or would have gladly dealt him for a big package at the draft in 2015 to Chia's Dumpster fire in Edmonton if they could have gotten a piece in return

 

[JRull86]

should the Fakers get AD... IT WILL COST THEM GUESS WHO ?

RONDO

I thought Rondo wasn't ever getting traded though?