Carter Hart to wear mask honoring Emery, features Holtby assault

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Ray Emery thread aside (because I know that would be a dumpster fire)


I look at that whole Holtby thing as being a really embarrassing thing for a league that was in the midst of learning about CTE at the time and did nothing to stop it or punish it. Even after he freely admitted it wasn't consensual (so much for the code):

"He didn't want a fight but I said basically protect yourself," said Emery, the former Blackhawks goalie. "I didn't really have much of a choice."




All that said. I can't even fathom a player trying a stunt like this in the old NHL where even the slightest perceived disrespect would earn you a merciless beatdown.


I don't know though, I'm bias, is this over the line?

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[K Fleur]

Which was the worse beatdown?; Emery fighting Holtby or the Flyers the other day on Holtby?

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Hockey is a weird sport. Ovechkin was a heel for his fire stick celebration a few years ago. But the nonconsensual beat down on a player? That's gravy.


Ironically it seems like rough and tumble 70s/80s/90s is the era where a guy wouldn't dream about even trying to wear this.

 

[Master P]

"assault"

 

[Sol]

Which was the worse beatdown?; Emery fighting Holtby or the Flyers the other day on Holtby?

Easily Holtby getting beat down. I've been so disgusted by a player. He didn't even try to stand up for himself. Pathetic on holtby. Lost a lot of respect for him that day.

 

[thefutures]

I see this as more of a tribute to Emery, Hart is young and I don't think he meant this as a shot a Holtby obviously.

 

[Clode]

Love it.

 

[Brownies]

Controversial (the Holtby part), but so fitting for the Broadstreet Bullies.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

"assault"

I mean what else would you call a non-consensual fight. Even hockey has a code, guys who don't break the code and don't want to fight are off limits.

 

[MattMartin]

Was a good clean fight, Emery was just bigger and stronger.

 

[Cheddabombs]

I see this as more of a tribute to Emery, Hart is young and I don't think he meant this as a shot a Holtby obviously.

This. Just take it as an awesome gesture to honour Emery.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Was a good clean fight, Emery was just bigger and stronger.

Not sure is serious or just needs a reminder

"He didn't want a fight but I said basically protect yourself," said Emery, the former Blackhawks goalie. "I didn't really have much of a choice."



Holtby literally leaves the crease to avoid the fight, doesn't drop his gloves at all, and the linesmen prevent skaters from stepping in. Not to mention all the rabbit punches as Holtby's on his knees...

 

[JackSlater]

Hockey is a weird sport. Ovechkin was a heel for his fire stick celebration a few years ago. But the nonconsensual beat down on a player? That's gravy.


Ironically it seems like rough and tumble 70s/80s/90s is the era where a guy wouldn't dream about even trying to wear this.

Sometimes fights happen in hockey, though I've rarely seen a consensual beat down. It's not a big deal. Looks good on Hart's helmet though and I like the gesture.

 

[Anisimovs AK]

Not sure is serious or just needs a reminder

"He didn't want a fight but I said basically protect yourself," said Emery, the former Blackhawks goalie. "I didn't really have much of a choice."



Holtby literally leaves the crease to avoid the fight, doesn't drop his gloves at all, and the linesmen prevent skaters from stepping in. Not to mention all the rabbit punches as Holtby's on his knees...

This is actually a non event in the grand scheme of things. Nice to see this Caps fan hasnt gotten over a moment from 7 years ago though.

Would it be less controversial to have the Biron beating on the helmet? Maybe?

He's honoring someone who was popular amongst teammates and a fan favorite who died tragically in his mid 30's, so does this gripe really matter?

 

[Cheddabombs]

Not sure is serious or just needs a reminder

"He didn't want a fight but I said basically protect yourself," said Emery, the former Blackhawks goalie. "I didn't really have much of a choice."



Holtby literally leaves the crease to avoid the fight, doesn't drop his gloves at all, and the linesmen prevent skaters from stepping in. Not to mention all the rabbit punches as Holtby's on his knees...

Man, I get your a Caps fan but that one portion of the mask really shouldn't be the takeaway from this.

 

[TripleNutz]

If anything it's on the refs/linesmen letting Holtby get beat to all hell, can't put that on Emery. Emery was a fighter and it's a good tribute.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Man, I get your a Caps fan but that one portion of the mask really shouldn't be the takeaway from this.

So why is it even there?


Like the argument of "it's really not a big deal" but also "it's a big enough deal to us fans to put it on the mask" doesn't jive. I don't know how Holtby feels about it, I probably would be kind of a peeved if I was him, I know if I was a teammate that'd send me up the wall.

 

[Advanced stats]

Yes Ray Emery, top notch role model...

 

[Cheddabombs]

Is it? Or is it actually a really polite way to lay out the facts. He statistically was an extremely average goalie. That fight comes in a 7-0 loss on his second to last season in the NHL where he finishes with some bad stats.


He was, even by the kindest of standards, a problematic guy.


Personally, I'll never understand the insistence to deify those who die young when their life is littered with casualties of others lives. To each their own I guess, if you want to tribute Emery that's fine, not my cup of tea as human beings go. But let's not sit here and whitewash his life, he was by the mentalist of narratives a "complex" guy and it'd be disrespectful to everyone in his past to simply try and brush that under the rug.

So why is it even there?


Like the argument of "it's really not a big deal" but also "it's a big enough deal to us fans to put it on the mask" doesn't jive. I don't know how Holtby feels about it, I probably would be kind of a peeved if I was him, I know if I was a teammate that'd send me up the wall.

I really don't know what to tell you you man. You're bringing up Emery's stats and the score from that game as if it matters at all.

This is a nice gesture, that's it.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Not sure is serious or just needs a reminder

"He didn't want a fight but I said basically protect yourself," said Emery, the former Blackhawks goalie. "I didn't really have much of a choice."



Holtby literally leaves the crease to avoid the fight, doesn't drop his gloves at all, and the linesmen prevent skaters from stepping in. Not to mention all the rabbit punches as Holtby's on his knees...

Yes. I absolutely love fighting but this was not a good moment.

 

[TripleNutz]

Yes Ray Emery, top notch role model...

despite certain behaviours he accomplished a lot in his short life.

 

[Advanced stats]

despite certain behaviours he accomplished a lot in his short life.

A cup and a Jennings...as a backup iirc

Anything else?

 

[ItWasJustified]

Who cares? Animosity is good for the league. More like this. Hart should wear it next time they play Caps and skate past Holtby while pointing towards his mask.

 

[John Johnson]

Who cares? Animosity is good for the league. More like this. Hart should wear it next time they play Caps and skate past Holtby while pointing towards his mask.

Oh yeah Carter Hart is gonna totally intimidate Holtby so bad with that...

 

[thefutures]

This is actually hilarious that people have a problem with a tribute mask.