Says logic. In 2009, if Patrick Sharp doesn't lance Nicklas Lidstrom in the ballsack,
And if that one moron on the Yotes doesn’t try and decapitate Hossa, Kane would have had four Cups. See how much make believe works? Says logic?
Datsyuk gets 2 Cups to his name as a core player. Cups are a team accomplishment and using them to prop up any one player is completely moronic.
With this logic, Dats was a teamless player? Cups are what you play for in the NHL, yes? Show me where
any player ever drafted said “my dream is to hold a Selke trophy over my head instead of the Stanley Cup”and I’ll stop putting that much weight on Cups.
Team game? Welcome to 2022. Now be a great team mate and help put your name along with everyone else’s wearing the same crest on the Cup.
Was Ray Bourque a better player because he got dealt onto a holy shit stacked Colorado team to win a Cup?
He would have been the NHL version of Ernie Banks. Great player who never won the big one. Thankfully Boston threw him that bone as his career was winding down.
And WHAT? Datsyuk was given the torch to keep a winning tradition and was part of a COMPLETE turnover from the absurdly stacked 01-02 team that got decimated by age and by the salary cap and the Wings were prohibitive favorites for the Cup from 2006-2010.
And the Hawks wernt? That 2010 team would have kept on winning Cups if there wasn’t a salary cap. You know this, right? You just made Kane’s accomplishments look better then I ever could.
Datsyuk being around is why the Wings limped along into the playoffs from 2012-2015 after Lidstrom retired. Those teams were completely decrepit and had a couple supreme talents that kept them meandering along. 12-13 Wings gave your boy Kane and his team all they could handle as a MASSIVE underdog, due in large part to Pavel Datsyuk.
And still lost.
It’s like saying Rocky should get props for losing to Apollo. Golf clap?
Wings team that won in 2008 had six players in common with 2002... and let's be real. 2008 Chelios was NOT 2002 Chelios. 2008 Hasek was most certainly not 2002 Hasek. Same with McCarty. You could argue that Kris Draper was always gonna Kris Draper because he was an engine on skates. Dollar Bill Wirtz passing away and handing the team to Rocky may have had as much a change on the Blackhawks as anything else.
No,
winning had more to do with the Blackhawks then anything Rocky did. You really
think fans would have been selling out the UC if that team was a tire fire in a Bears/Cubs/Bulls dominant town?
Come on, bruh
I won't even disagree on Kane > Datsyuk. Mathematically, it's in black and white. But it's closer than you're going to give it credit for, because you're tossing out Datsyuk's major defensive advantage because "Kane wasn't drafted to be a defensive player". If Datsyuk was solely a wing and his only job was to score, his offensive stats would be higher than they are.
Sure
All the nonsense about "changing a franchise" is exactly that. Datsyuk was part of a complete turnover in Detroit after they had their salary limit cut literally in half. That's as much "changing a franchise" as coming in and making the shitty Blackhawks not shitty anymore. Which again, happened one hell of a lot more because they were able to displace Dollar Bill Wirtz who badly mismanaged the franchise for his son who let hockey people do hockey things.
Yeah, like allow a coach to assault a player?
Face it, the wires of the internet hockey community are messed up and this whole “points=greatness” trope needs to be scrapped.
Winning= greatness. Being a guy who was drafted to lead a team to a Cup, and it’s undeniable Kane had a huge part in bringing three Cups to Chicago in six years with a salary cap installed that castrates teams from pulling off dynasties like back in the day, is one of, if not the greatest accomplishment since the cap was installed. And I would say that if
any team pulled that off and hope the Bolts can chip that down a year or two and make things interesting.
Cups matter more then anything. Like it or not.
