Confirmed Trade: [CAR/MIN] Nino Niederreiter for Victor Rask

[Dr Jan Itor]

I made a bad trade proposal three seasons ago involving Boeser for Niederreiter. Minnesota fans laughed at me and told me to GTFO. Now look.

3 seasons ago when Nino scored 25 goals, Boeser was still in college, and we actually had some deep playoff run aspirations?

 

[Kamiccolo]

Lot of posters here haven't watched Wild i see. Nino has been trash for two seasons now while getting to play with guys like Staal,Koivu and Granlund. He has lost his skating and shot.

Wait until you see Rask...

 

[DRW204]

Fair enough. Skinner and Lindholm are also playing with two of the best players in the league but yeah I see your point

It's a joke mate. Hence the I don't expect Rask to do much and I think Carolina got the better player here

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Wtf Fenton?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Thinking it over more, this probably adds more credence to the speculation that Ferland is on the way out.

They are saying Ferland's asking price is in the range of Evander Kane's contract last season. So yeah he is probably getting traded lol

 

[AKL]

not a hockey trade. seems like a trade by minny to salvage value for a guy who was not getting out of the doghouse with the current coach.

Not the doghouse, he’s been flat out terrible for two years.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

The main thing people are missing in this thread is that Niederrieter is a superb defensive player. People are looking at his scoring going down and scoffing but he remains very very strong at preventing shots against.

And he’s also, you know, a far superior offensive player to Victor Rask?

 

[ref19]

Minnesota has players a “lot better” than Aho and Teravainen?

Seems like a bit of an exaggeration.

Over the course of his six years in Minnesota he certainly did.

 

[MoPucks]

"Trade is one for one"

 

[Nizdizzle]

Teams trying to figure out if their team is a playoff team who needs a poke or a non playoff team before the deadline so they can plan appropriately .

I mean yeah, but why not last week or next week? We have no trades since January 3rd, and then in the span of 6 days we had 10 trades. Seems like a domino fell or something for all these moves to happen this week.

 

[Cor]

Nino Niederreiter's reputation seems to exceed him.

He's a 35 to 40 point player realistically, so he's a middle 6 winger.

Issue is, I'm not sure what Fenton saw when looking at Rask to say "this is the one we trade Nino for".

It's a win for Carolina, but it's not like a steal of any sort.

 

[Michoulicious]

Oh. That's a fleecing by Carolina.

An overpaid bottom six C for a top 6 50 point winger who provides grit.

Return is not that bad for Minnesota, especially when you consider that the last time Nino was traded, it was for a Clutterbuck.

 

[57special]

The main thing people are missing in this thread is that Niederrieter is a superb defensive player. People are looking at his scoring going down and scoffing but he remains very very strong at preventing shots against.

He really isn't though. Not bad, by any means, but he isn't that good in the D zone. Tough to play against in the O zone, though. He could easily blow up for the Canes and start scoring again. He's got the talent.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Over the course of his six years in Minnesota he certainly did.

The best forward of Minnesota over the years would've been at best on par with Aho this season.

 

[JackFr]

Rask - 0.48 PPG
Nino - 0.46 PPG

?!?!

2018-19:
Rask: 0.23 PPG
Nino: 0.5 PPG

2017-18:

Rask: 0.43 PPG
Nino: 0.51 PPG

2016-17:

Rask: 0.55 PPG
Nino: 0.69 PPG

 

[Roboturner913]

I'm confused by this, and I actually like Rask. But Rask has been very below average the last two seasons even when he was fully healthy. He doesn't look at all like the 45-50 point player he was a while back.

There must be salary angle here we're not seeing. Or Minnesota has some inside reason to think they can rehab his career. But wow, I just don't get this at all.

 

[AKL]

I have no problem with this because:

1) If both players return to form from 2+ years ago, it’s a wash
2) I’m not holding Rasks production against him yet, just look at the last three forwards to escape Carolina (Staal, Skinner, Lindholm)
3) Wild save a little bit of money
4) Nino was pretty much done on this roster

 

[Kamiccolo]

Aho would be the top scorer on Minnesota by a good margin so who is this "lot better talent"?

Aho won't get any respect until the Canes make the playoffs and people actually decide to watch their games. His growth the last two years has been insane.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

NN is better, but Rask is cheaper and plays the more valuable position. That's the trade logic.

 

[BusQuets]

And he’s also, you know, a far superior offensive player to Victor Rask?

4th liner in NHL is better offensively than 4th liner in AHL. Wouldn't still jump for joy if my team trades the AHLer for NHLer. Seriously expecting Nino being legit scoring forward is not something Carolina should count on. Maybe he can leech off points from Aho and Teuvo but that probably wouldn't make Carolina better team.

 

[Pandaman11]

Wtf is Minnesota doing? Starting to tank?

 

[AKL]

I'm confused by this, and I actually like Rask. But Rask has been very below average the last two seasons even when he was fully healthy. He doesn't look at all like the 45-50 point player he was a while back.

There must be salary angle here we're not seeing. Or Minnesota has some inside reason to think they can rehab his career. But wow, I just don't get this at all.

Plot twist: so has Nino

 

[McDNicks17]

I feel like both teams lose this trade somehow.

 

[57special]

Watching him play the last 2 seasons. Nino is also very average defensively even though his corsi stats seems good. Probably more to do with the fact that he always got to play with strong possession players. Also Nino was probably the only Wild forward in the top-9 who never got any short-handed time.

I do like Nino's upside, though, and he's strong around the opponents crease.

 

[Roboturner913]

A cap dump for a cap dump? Maybe GMs just need to stop signing bad contracts.

Neither contract is bad if you look at what those players were doing at the time they signed them.