Confirmed Trade: [CAR/FLA] Vincent Trocheck for Erik Haula, Lucas Wallmark, Chase Priskie, and Eetu Luostarinen

[Dirty Dog]

Barkov is not a winner. Guy is a born loser with elite talent. If by some miracle we make the playoffs, we'll get torn to shreds with his papier mache heart.

Real low advanced stats regarding his heart

 

[kerrabria]

Eetu Luostarinen

• 22-years-old; RFA after 2y x $894k
• 13 GP; 2g; 4a; 6p
• 8 PIM; 12 Blocks; 15 Hits; 50.7% Face-Offs
• 13:18 TOI, 0:00 PP, 1:30 PK
• 8 vs 5 Takeaways vs Giveaways
• 39.4% vs 60.6% Off vs Def Zone Starts

Has been playing 3C on a great third line of Vatrano - Luostarinen - Tippett. They all compliment one another, and Eetu shows poise and playmaking abilities. Needs to work on his finishing, but he puts himself in positions to score. Quenneville has treated him as a traditional 3C who is trusted on defense, but can facilitate scoring from the Bottom 6.

Vincent Trocheck

• 27-years-old; UFA after 2y x $4.75m
• 12 GP; 6g; 7a; 13p
• 4 PIM; 10 Blocks; 24 Hits; 56.9% Face-Offs
• 18:35 TOI, 2:48 PP, 1:12 PK
• 7 vs 6 Takeaways vs Giveaways
• 47.8% vs 52.2% Off vs Def Zone Starts

Left Florida looking like his best days were behind him. Many thought that his relentless style of play relied too much on athleticism and pure hunger, so with Trocheck being older and more established in the league, his play plummeted. Now he appears to be putting up great numbers and impacting the game in all situations as Carolina's 2C.

 

[mydnyte]

Eetu Luostarinen

• 22-years-old; RFA after 2y x $894k
• 13 GP; 2g; 4a; 6p
• 8 PIM; 12 Blocks; 15 Hits; 50.7% Face-Offs
• 13:18 TOI, 0:00 PP, 1:30 PK
• 8 vs 5 Takeaways vs Giveaways
• 39.4% vs 60.6% Off vs Def Zone Starts

Has been playing 3C on a great third line of Vatrano - Luostarinen - Tippett. They all compliment one another, and Eetu shows poise and playmaking abilities. Needs to work on his finishing, but he puts himself in positions to score. Quenneville has treated him as a traditional 3C who is trusted on defense, but can facilitate scoring from the Bottom 6.

Vincent Trocheck

• 27-years-old; UFA after 2y x $4.75m
• 12 GP; 6g; 7a; 13p
• 4 PIM; 10 Blocks; 24 Hits; 56.9% Face-Offs
• 18:35 TOI, 2:48 PP, 1:12 PK
• 7 vs 6 Takeaways vs Giveaways
• 47.8% vs 52.2% Off vs Def Zone Starts

Left Florida looking like his best days were behind him. Many thought that his relentless style of play relied too much on athleticism and pure hunger, so with Trocheck being older and more established in the league, his play plummeted. Now he appears to be putting up great numbers and impacting the game in all situations as Carolina's 2C.

it took you a year to come to this conclusion? ...not a fan of year old thread bumpers

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Luostarinen looked good in his limited time in Carolina so it's not a surprise that he's doing well in Florida. Maybe that he's already an effective 3C is a bit of a surprise, but he looked like he belonged last year.

 

[kerrabria]

it took you a year to come to this conclusion?

Since the trade, Trocheck has played just 27 games for the Canes (20 since this thread was last bumped) and Luosterinen only became relevant for Florida a few weeks ago.

not a fan of year old thread bumpers

Yet here you are.

 

[Stubu]

it took you a year to come to this conclusion? ...not a fan of year old thread bumpers

The stats are not from a year ago though.

Of course it's always interesting to look at old trades and their outcomes as time has gone by. And using the old thread for that just makes sense.

Bumping a thread when there's absolutely nothing new to offer to the conversation, the classic necro-post, now there I'd agree.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Luostarinen looked good in his limited time in Carolina so it's not a surprise that he's doing well in Florida. Maybe that he's already an effective 3C is a bit of a surprise, but he looked like he belonged last year.

Yeah, most of us on the Florida board had him coming in as 4th line center next season. Boy were we wrong.

I'm happy for Tro. I think he just needed a wake up call.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yeah, most of us on the Florida board had him coming in as 4th line center next season. Boy were we wrong.

I'm happy for Tro. I think he just needed a wake up call.

I wonder if the extra time off helped Trocheck get healthier. He looks much faster than last year, but it could just be he’s more comfortable now with his teammates and system.

Gardiner is another one who looked slow and stiff last year after his back issues in Toronto. He looks totally different this year.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I wonder if the extra time off helped Trocheck get healthier. He looks much faster than last year, but it could just be he’s more comfortable now with his teammates and system.

Gardiner is another one who looked slow and stiff last year after his back issues in Toronto. He looks totally different this year.

It very well could be. Tro's legs have been through a lot since 2017.

 

[JT Kreider]

It very well could be. Tro's legs have been through a lot since 2017.

He probably rushed back from that gruesome leg injury in Ottawa. At first we all thought he would be gone for a year but I don't even think he missed more than 3 months.

 

[violaswallet]

I wonder if the extra time off helped Trocheck get healthier. He looks much faster than last year, but it could just be he’s more comfortable now with his teammates and system.

Gardiner is another one who looked slow and stiff last year after his back issues in Toronto. He looks totally different this year.

That’s probably the big thing: we noted improvement each offseason that he was off with his speed but his last season was rough: he’s try to make plays and was just a second too slow. Is that still going on?

I miss the guy: he was an unexpected part of the core. I’m guessing that Q suggested trading him for cultural reasons; I think he was too comfortable here

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I miss the guy: he was an unexpected part of the core. I’m guessing that Q suggested trading him for cultural reasons; I think he was too comfortable here

That would be twice now that Carolina greatly benefitted from Quenneville giving up on a player.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

That would be twice now that Carolina greatly benefitted from Quenneville giving up on a player.

I think your timing is off. Quenneville wasn’t the coach when the Canes got Babchuk.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

That’s probably the big thing: we noted improvement each offseason that he was off with his speed but his last season was rough: he’s try to make plays and was just a second too slow. Is that still going on?

I miss the guy: he was an unexpected part of the core. I’m guessing that Q suggested trading him for cultural reasons; I think he was too comfortable here

Canes play an up tempo game and he hasn’t had trouble keeping up. He’s on a line with Necas who is basically a horse on skates, so Trochek probably finds himself having to push the pace otherwise he’d be left a zone or two behind. Last year when we got him he definitely didn’t seem to quite have his legs under him. He was battling and trying to breakthrough the opposition but couldn’t quite find that extra gear. Now he looks hungry and able to do things at a higher speed and get to his spots a touch earlier than before.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Yay for a trade at least

NVM I forgot how old it is.... bumped thread