Confirmed with Link: [CAR/AZ] Shayne Gostisbehere for a 2026 3rd round draft pick

[hbk]

Philli couldn't give the guy away for free 2 years ago and AZ was magically going to get a 1st rounder for him? Was that seriously someone's expectations here?

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

Im curious if we revisit signing him this offseason. He seems to like it here in AZ and likes coach Tourigny. He will be 30 next season. I think we might have the cap space.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Philli couldn't give the guy away for free 2 years ago and AZ was magically going to get a 1st rounder for him? Was that seriously someone's expectations here?

I'll be honest, I wanted the 3rd to be this year's draft and not three years from now.

The comparative value is what annoys me, not the round.

 

[hbk]

I'll be honest, I wanted the 3rd to be this year's draft and not three years from now.

The comparative value is what annoys me, not the round.

that's fair. BA either doesn't purposely want Carolina's 3rd in this years draft (it will be late) and/or he just wants to spread these suckers out over time. Either way he's not subscribing to the time value of money philosophy that you and I have been raised with.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

that's fair. BA either doesn't purposely want Carolina's 3rd in this years draft (it will be late) and/or he just wants to spread these suckers out over time. Either way he's not subscribing to the time value of money philosophy that you and I have been raised with.

Yeah, my brain gets it, but my gut still says that if he was going '26 he could have gotten a 2nd. Ah well.

 

[YotesFan47]

This is fine, I was hoping for a 2nd but a 3rd with no retention is fine. Ultimately, I'm sad to see him go, but I'm happy to add another selection in a future draft for him. Adding tons of picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds can add up to pretty good players if you get enough of them to hit.

 

[Kai Yo T]

this rebuild is stringing out 2 years longer than it should have or could have been.

How do you come to this assessment? Curious.

Edit: What's the date the rebuild should be done by?

 

[Jakey53]

Ghost doesn't prevent zone entries or hit. He's a PP specialist and a fairly expensive one at that, considering the Coyotes could take zero cap back. You are overvaluing this player and what he means to playoff teams.

Let's see how the Cane's utilize him. It was a hell of a deal for Carolina. A pick in the 80's range might be worth a roll of toilet paper.

 

[PHX FireBirds18]

Philli couldn't give the guy away for free 2 years ago and AZ was magically going to get a 1st rounder for him? Was that seriously someone's expectations here?

I must admit I don’t contribute here all that often but I have mad lurking skills. The way everyone is running around in circles, is surprising to me. Like haven’t we been eating cash for picks for a couple years now. Sucks we couldn’t do it with our prized asset but I’m very happy where the organizations at currently. The darker days are not lost on me. There’s actually something to be excited about here. The returns on this deadline are like a B but the overall picture is great!

 

[Jakey53]

AND the 1st round pick we got in the OEL deal might be the best player on the roster by the end of '23. If not, certainly top 3 or 4. Has Armstrong been perfect? Of course not but I think he's done a very good job setting the organization up to build a winner through the draft which is exactly what he said he wanted to do. In a couple years they will have a roster full of young talent and the cap room to add vets to put them over the top with what looks like the right coach to keep them playing winning hockey. I just hope it's here in AZ.

A couple of years? Funny man. What good is cap room when you can't use it? At least we will have young hungry players to watch. I wonder if we get more than a 1st. for Keller. Might get lucky and get a 1st. and a couple of 2nds. Maybe if we add a certain pizza franchise will entice someone.

 

[Jakey53]

Philli couldn't give the guy away for free 2 years ago and AZ was magically going to get a 1st rounder for him? Was that seriously someone's expectations here?

Ghost did MUCH better than I thought. Happy for him and where he landed. I'm ok we only got a 3rd. He has paid his dues. More of a favor to Ghost.

 

[Jakey53]

Yeah, my brain gets it, but my gut still says that if he was going '26 he could have gotten a 2nd. Ah well.

I just noticed it was a 3rd. in 2026. That could be worth a little more than a roll of toilet paper, but better than this year, god willing.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I just noticed it was a 3rd. in 2026. That could be worth a little more than a roll of toilet paper, but better than this year, god willing.

Smarter/more in-touch people with regards to the next five drafts will have to chime in and clarify value. I only know that everyone thinks this year is an amazing draft, that next year could be even better, and beyond that I know absolutely nothing.

 

[Jakey53]

Smarter/more in-touch people with regards to the next five drafts will have to chime in and clarify value. I only know that everyone thinks this year is an amazing draft, that next year could be even better, and beyond that I know absolutely nothing.

My thinking was that Caroline won't be as good then.

 

[Kai Yo T]

I must admit I don’t contribute here all that often but I have mad lurking skills. The way everyone is running around in circles, is surprising to me. Like haven’t we been eating cash for picks for a couple years now. Sucks we couldn’t do it with our prized asset but I’m very happy where the organizations at currently. The darker days are not lost on me. There’s actually something to be excited about here. The returns on this deadline are like a B but the overall picture is great!

That's true. We have been paying cash for assets for a couple seasons now. Probably shouldn't be surprised there was a limit on how much BA would allow and for how long he'd agree to do it. I'll just be glad he was able and willing to do it at all with the state of the team right now.

 

[PHX FireBirds18]

I just noticed it was a 3rd. in 2026. That could be worth a little more than a roll of toilet paper, but better than this year, god willing.

Time flies friend. Next thing you know we will be trading for a ghost with that 3rd and everyone will be saying how did they get him for that and we got fleeced blah blah… It’s only because they’re a joke of a franchise! We all know how it goes. We were destined to lose the deadline no matter what.

 

[Jakey53]

That's true. We have been paying cash for assets for a couple seasons now. Probably shouldn't be surprised there was a limit on how much BA would allow and for how long he'd agree to do it. I'll just be glad he was able and willing to do it at all with the state of the team right now.

He has to do it again this year. We will need players to hit the cap floor. Not sure what the cap floor is though. It won't be as drastic as last year that's for sure.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

We can re-sign Ghost if we want. We received a 2nd,3rd, 7th for Ghost and we lost the trade? He was a free asset! Dudas and Lipkin are already great prospects in and of themselves. We needed to retain to get a better pick. That’s it. Instead of a 2nd we got a 3rd.

Van can’t give away Garland for free these days (or OEL for that matter)

Post of the thread, thus far…. Thank you!

 

[TheLegend]

We can re-sign Ghost if we want. We received a 2nd,3rd, 7th for Ghost and we lost the trade? He was a free asset! Dudas and Lipkin are already great prospects in and of themselves. We needed to retain to get a better pick. That’s it. Instead of a 2nd we got a 3rd.

Van can’t give away Garland for free these days (or OEL for that matter)

Ghost was the gift that gave coming AND going.

Won’t be surprised if he returns either.

 

[TheLegend]

How do you come to this assessment? Curious.

Edit: What's the date the rebuild should be done by?

Depends on which prior rebuild he wants to start from.

 

[TheLegend]

Nice article if you can read it….

Shayne Gostisbehere embraces familiarity and unfamiliarity in 'weird' Hurricanes debut against former team

After being traded Wednesday by the Coyotes, Gostisbehere scored his first goal with the Canes in a 6-1 victory in familiar Mullett Arena.

theathletic.com

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Nice article if you can read it….

Shayne Gostisbehere embraces familiarity and unfamiliarity in 'weird' Hurricanes debut against former team

After being traded Wednesday by the Coyotes, Gostisbehere scored his first goal with the Canes in a 6-1 victory in familiar Mullett Arena.

theathletic.com

Being a Floridian...How on earth did I never hear his dad was Basque French and played jai alai?

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Well, glad Ghost is making the most of his opportunity in Carolina 1+1 already today. Seems like a great fit for them and should help propel their offense even further and with that forecheck Carolina has, wow, they should be extremely dangerous in the playoffs.

 

[Baby Doaner]

Well, glad Ghost is making the most of his opportunity in Carolina 1+1 already today. Seems like a great fit for them and should help propel their offense even further and with that forecheck Carolina has, wow, they should be extremely dangerous in the playoffs.

I hope he comes back next year. (Or is he signed for another year…I forget. Haha)

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

Ghost with a goal and 2 assists today. It's been a regular Lee Stempniak trade so far.