Canucks News, Rumours, & Fantasy GM | Waiver Time!

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Last one was over 1,000.

Canucks have placed G Spencer Martin on waivers today.

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[Vector]

Last one was over 1,000.

Canucks have placed G Spencer Martin on waivers today.

Ty Smith on waivers is crazy. Someone will grab him.

 

[wonton15]

Pens really gave up Marino for nothing. Should’ve been us

 

[arttk]

Ty Smith on waivers is crazy. Someone will grab him.

the legend of Hextal

 

[Josepho]

martin has to get loaned does he not

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

JR and Allvin are probably salivating at all those Penguins being available.

 

[MS]

JR and Allvin are probably salivating at all those Penguins being available.

I don't think any of them were Penguin property back then.

Ty Smith on waivers this early is crazy and he'll certainly be claimed. Whoever claims him can even get him into multiple preseason games which is unusual.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

martin has to get loaned does he not

One would have to think that's the plan if he clears (which he likely will, with the one-way deal). I believe the Canucks want to run Silovs and Tolopilo/Sawhcenko in Abbotsford.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Islanders should be all over Ty Smith

 

[arttk]

Islanders should be all over Ty Smith

Would be fun if we pick him up.

 

[credulous]

i don't think smith gets claimed. he's basically a less productive rathbone clone

people here pumped him up at the time of the marino trade to make it seem like vancouver couldn't have possibly have made that trade but he's been given tons of opportunity to make the nhl in the last three years and he's been very bad each time. the last time smith had value was in september 2021 before he struggled that season in limited minutes with jersey

 

[Szechwan]

I don't really see it with Ty Smith.

 

[StickShift]

Would be fun if we pick him up.

We already have too many depth 6-7-8 LD…

Wolanin
Irwin
Rathbone
Hirose
Brisebois

 

[Peen]

We already have too many depth 6-7-8 LD…

Wolanin
Irwin
Rathbone
Hirose
Brisebois

We do not.

Wolanin is fine as a 6-8 puck mover.

Rest should all be in the minors for various reasons.

They should be targeting two waiver wire guys here.

Hoglander should probably be dangled here if there's a higher value potential waiver guy upcoming.

 

[LemonSauceD]

i don't think smith gets claimed. he's basically a less productive rathbone clone

people here pumped him up at the time of the marino trade to make it seem like vancouver couldn't have possibly have made that trade but he's been given tons of opportunity to make the nhl in the last three years and he's been very bad each time. the last time smith had value was in september 2021 before he struggled that season in limited minutes with jersey

While Smith has had his struggles, he’s certainly not Rathbone level bad.

This is a case of a player being mis managed if anything. He was force fed into a terrible Devils team and then traded to a Pittsburgh who have Ryan Graves, Marcus Pettersson, POJ on the left side. Not mention Karlsson, Letang, and Ruhwedel on the right side, even if he could play on the right side.

Calling him Rathbone level bad is disingenuous.

 

[arttk]

We already have too many depth 6-7-8 LD…

Wolanin
Irwin
Rathbone
Hirose
Brisebois

He's better than Ratbone and Brisebois or at least have more upside. Hirose really should be in the AHL for a good chunk of the season to get his strength up so picking him up is really about making a decision between Irwin/Wol and Smith and Smith is younger and have more upside.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Remember when Ty Smith was the next great Devils dman? Good times.

 

[credulous]

While Smith has had his struggles, he’s certainly not Rathbone level bad.

This is a case of a player being mis managed if anything. He was force fed into a terrible Devils team and then traded to a Pittsburgh who have Ryan Graves, Marcus Pettersson, POJ on the left side. Not mention Karlsson, Letang, and Ruhwedel on the right side, even if he could play on the right side.

Calling him Rathbone level bad is disingenuous.

what makes him better than rathbone? he's played more nhl games but they were all on a new jersey team that also played pk subban, ryan murray and colton white. his ahl numbers are worse also. his only advantage over rathbone is he's a year younger but he's still old for a player that still needs to make massive improvements to have a solid nhl career

 

[moiderer]

With Vasilevskiy getting back surgery, Martin has to be good as gone. Can't see the TBL going with Jonas Johansson as a starter. Martin has experience in their org too.

Surprised we couldn't cut a super cheap deal for him though. Maybe a blessing we got DeSmith when we did?

 

[credulous]

Remember when Ty Smith was the next great Devils dman? Good times.

when the canucks traded for oel i thought trading hughes for a package including ty smith made some sense. whoops

 

[Vector]

Ducks, Coyotes, Bruins, Blackhawks, Avalanche, Panthers, Kings, Islanders, Flyers, Sharks, Blues, and Capitals should all have varying degree of interest in Smith. Claim him now and see if he can stick at the bottom of the roster over the other guys competing. He's only making the minimum.

 

[LemonSauceD]

We do not.

Wolanin is fine as a 6-8 puck mover.

Rest should all be in the minors for various reasons.

They should be targeting two waiver wire guys here.

Hoglander should probably be dangled here if there's a higher value potential waiver guy upcoming.

While I agree, I wouldn’t put a claim on Smith for several reasons.

1. Size (We have Hughes and Hronek in the top 4)
2. We have Hughes and Hronek.

He wouldn’t get nearly the same opportunities and is best served in a role where he’s not penciled in as a third pair defenseman. He needs his PP time, and certainly needs an environment where he can roam and quarterback.

He would be a misfit on our rather depth loaded defense.

 

[MS]

what makes him better than rathbone? he's played more nhl games but they were all on a new jersey team that also played pk subban, ryan murray and colton white. his ahl numbers are worse also. his only advantage over rathbone is he's a year younger but he's still old for a player that still needs to make massive improvements to have a solid nhl career

Rathbone is just crap. Not even close to being NHL-calibre defensively.

Smith is a pretty big step up in terms of how he processes the game.

 

[Peen]

While I agree, I wouldn’t put a claim on Smith for several reasons.

1. Size (We have Hughes and Hronek in the top 4)
2. We have Hughes and Hronek.

He wouldn’t get nearly the same opportunities and is best served in a role where he’s not penciled in as a third pair defenseman. He needs his PP time, and certainly needs an environment where he can roam and quarterback.

He would be a misfit on our rather depth loaded defense.

Yes. I agree. I think they'd be better off hedging and seeing who pops up. I'm sure they've got this stuff drawn up on Jim Benning's league wide depth chart board and have some names they think will pop up.

But if you think he defends his own zone at a level above Wolanin, I do think they should be picking this guy up. Because Wolanin and Hirose have something to prove there. And Rathbone just isn't that guy anyways.

 

[LemonSauceD]

what makes him better than rathbone? he's played more nhl games but they were all on a new jersey team that also played pk subban, ryan murray and colton white. his ahl numbers are worse also. his only advantage over rathbone is he's a year younger but he's still old for a player that still needs to make massive improvements to have a solid nhl career

Because Rathbone is just a worse player than Smith in pretty much every regard.

Smith is a better skater, puck mover, defender, and bigger than Rathbone. Smith processes the game levels above Rathbone.