Friedman: Canucks are trying to find a market for OEL

[Vakarte]

If OEL is a good as you guys say he is, then the Canucks don't have a defensive core problem and they should easily make the playoffs next year, right??

 

[Cogburn]

If OEL is a good as you guys say he is, then the Canucks don't have a defensive core problem and they should easily make the playoffs next year, right??

We have two 7+ million, offensively minded and skilled, LHD, playing 25 minutes a night. Hughes made OEL redundant before he was acquired.

Take your ill informed, trolling comments back under your bridge.

 

[HolyGhost]

We have two 7+ million, offensively minded and skilled, LHD, playing 25 minutes a night. Hughes made OEL redundant before he was acquired.

Take your ill informed, trolling comments back under your bridge.

it is a fair observation. You need 6 D and and having two guys like Hughes and OEL would be viewed as a good thing. Unless OEL is not as good as people say he is

 

[Cogburn]

it is a fair observation. You need 6 D and and having two guys like Hughes and OEL would be viewed as a good thing. Unless OEL is not as good as people say he is

He's not as good as Hughes, and we have Hughes, OEL, Myers, Dermott and Rathbone that can move the puck in our system, with four of the five playing on the left side. Myers is also being shopped, but OEL's contract is the one we'd be looking to move based on the length and handedness. We are also right up against the cap, with Horvat, Kuzmenko and, if the other idiot comment being repeated ever other post is to be followed too, Miller that need to be resigned before next off season. Not to mention the fact that the reason Miller is available is he doesn't match the age for our window.

The comment was profoundly ignorant.

 

[PullHard]

So at this point we have heard that the Canucks are looking for markets for OEL, Myers, Dickenson, Pearson, and Miller? Are any of these guys going to get traded? These have been rumoured for about 6 months at this point, if not longer. What's the deal?

 

[BoHorvat 53]

29 points in 79 games played at that caphit is very bad. Maybe he was good defensively but he is still overpaid by a lot these days.

…he’s an offensive defenceman who isn’t getting power play minutes because we have Quinn Hughes. If he got Hughes’ PP minutes, he’s have 40 points at least, which still isn’t the best but it’s good. Inspite of how our season started and having tough deployment, he finished a +5 on our team. +/- isn’t everything, but I think it shows he was actually good last season

 

[604]

If OEL is a good as you guys say he is, then the Canucks don't have a defensive core problem and they should easily make the playoffs next year, right??

Only major problem on defense is that they have Luke Schenn playing as their top pair RD.

If that problem was solved, then yes, the Canucks should make the playoffs quite easily.

 

[deckercky]

it is a fair observation. You need 6 D and and having two guys like Hughes and OEL would be viewed as a good thing. Unless OEL is not as good as people say he is

Canucks left-hand depth is fine. OEL and Hughes are both solid enough (OEL is overpaid and term is too long, but he's a good player).

Canucks right-hand depth is so bad that Luke Schenn gets top pairing playtime with Hughes.

 

[604]

So at this point we have heard that the Canucks are looking for markets for OEL, Myers, Dickenson, Pearson, and Miller? Are any of these guys going to get traded? These have been rumoured for about 6 months at this point, if not longer. What's the deal?

The deal is the Vancouver media doesn't have any insider info and has resorted to making up rumors.

 

[bleedgreen]

Someone would take him at 50% retained. They won’t give you anything of value for it though.

 

[IceManCat]

Whats the goalie situation like in Vancouver?

I wonder if a Bobrovsky for OEL trade would work out assuming Bob and OEL both agreed to waive their NTC. Panthers have a glaring hole in the middle pairing.

 

[dellzor]

Whats the goalie situation like in Vancouver?

I wonder if a Bobrovsky for OEL trade would work out assuming Bob and OEL both agreed to waive their NTC. Panthers have a glaring hole in the middle pairing.

We have Demko why would we need Bob? LOL

 

[IceManCat]

We have Demko why would we need Bob? LOL

I really dont know hence why I asked the question -

Whats the goalie situation like in Vancouver?


It be great if you take the time to read things first.

 

[innitfam]

I really dont know hence why I asked the question -

Whats the goalie situation like in Vancouver?


It be great if you take the time to read things first.

Demko is signed for 4 more years at 5M. No want or need for Bobrovsky. There would need to be a third team involved

 

[Ace of Hades]

Then don’t trade him. But this assumption you have that he’s a good and valuable young player is invalid. He’s at best a question mark as a viable nhl player. He won’t have a long career if he plays like he did last season in this upcoming one. He’ll be sent back to the AHL.

You saying it does not make it invalid.

He already has a track record of being a promising young player during his rookie season, who went through a sophomore slump and lacked a lot of confidence with different coaches and a shitty environment to play in during the first half of last season.

He will be fine.

 

[Cogburn]

Whats the goalie situation like in Vancouver?

I wonder if a Bobrovsky for OEL trade would work out assuming Bob and OEL both agreed to waive their NTC. Panthers have a glaring hole in the middle pairing.

We're set on goalies. A trade for OEL won't cost as much as his on ice production should get, but we can't take a bad contract for a higher hit for longer. Maybe if a RHD came in with a similar cap hit/term to OEL, but we're stuffed with forwards, LHD and goalies.

 

[biturbo19]

If OEL is a good as you guys say he is, then the Canucks don't have a defensive core problem and they should easily make the playoffs next year, right??

OEL is fine. The problem with the Canucks defence corps, is that OEL and Hughes are the only Top-4 Caliber defencemen on the team. They also both happen to be LHD, and unfortunately have somewhat overlapping skillsets. But OEL was just fine in a more matchup-oriented role last year. Production suffered for lack of PP time, but that's fine. That was always going to be the case with anyone slotting in behind Hughes.

OEL is very much not the problem with the Canucks blueline. The fact he's one of only 2 guys slotted into an appropriate role is the problem. The fact Luke Schenn is pencilled in to play in our Top-4 alongside Hughes is the problem. The fact we're forced to deploy an expensive Chaos Giraffe on our "shutdown pairing" is the problem.

 

[McJedi]

You saying it does not make it invalid.

He already has a track record of being a promising young player during his rookie season, who went through a sophomore slump and lacked a lot of confidence with different coaches and a shitty environment to play in during the first half of last season.

He will be fine.

Maybe. And maybe not. he may top out as bottom six winger. Hard to say based on two seasons. One solid. One that was lacking.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Whats the goalie situation like in Vancouver?

I wonder if a Bobrovsky for OEL trade would work out assuming Bob and OEL both agreed to waive their NTC. Panthers have a glaring hole in the middle pairing.

goaltending is vancouver's biggest strength.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Weird, just yesterday a Canucks fan made a thread about the most goals coming from their centers this coming season and I swear one was selling that OEL was still an elite D forced to carry around that RD core.

weird..
large fan bases have some fans with terrible opinions

but, okay. super relevant here

 

[Ruthervin]

29 points in 79 games played at that caphit is very bad. Maybe he was good defensively but he is still overpaid by a lot these days.

For the role that OEL was asked to play (i.e. being an Alex Edler replacement, taking on tough match-ups, and freeing up Hughes' pairing), OEL was actually extremely good. One of the reasons why Hughes thrived last year was because of OEL's presence. OEL got Myers to step up as well (Myers had his best season as a Canuck last season largely due to OEL). For awhile there, the OEL-Myers pairing had some of the best 5 on 5 stats in the league.

 

[Ace]

So many teams must be bummed that Chuck Fletcher doesn’t have cap space.

 

[McDavid is too whiny]

So many teams must be bummed that Chuck Fletcher doesn’t have cap space.

Or that Benning isn’t around

 

[48MPHSlapShot]

With how valuable cap space is right now, it would likely cost an arm and a leg to move OEL. He's overpaid, but still most certainly a top 4 defenseman on any team. With how much it would cost to move his contract I'd rather just hold onto him. Our defense would be in absolute shambles without him and we don't have anyone in the system that can come close to replacing him.

Just hold onto him and hope he keeps up his current level of play for the remainder of his contract.

 

[Luck 6]

If he can hold up his currently level of play for the duration of his contract he’d only be slightly overpaid. I’d much rather OEL at his contract as opposed to someone like Nurse at his.

The thing that makes OEL a bad fit on the Canucks is that we have Hughes, so he is a bit of a redundant asset. He has done a good job of tailoring his play to more of a shutdown role, and as such has made the previous statement somewhat untrue, but still, he doesn’t get the top offensive minutes.

When Hughes was out of the line up last year, OEL had 8 points in 5 games playing top offensive minutes, so it’s not like he has forgot how to play that role. I would like to see them try OEL on the right side with Hughes, if it works that could be an amazing top pairing.