Confirmed with Link: Canucks announce John Tortorella as Head Coach

[Alflives*]

Why is Kassian's conditioning such a polarizing subject?

My impression of him is that he's a gifted skater for a player his size but his energy level does seem to fluctuate a lot. That's the case with a lot of young players though. When he's able to go harder for longer his game will really come together as he has the vision and hands to make some nice plays. He just needs to initiate more battles more consistently and win them and I think that comes with the experience of being a pro. Also adjusting to the rigors of travel that come with play for the Canucks must account for some of his energy issues. I think his conditioning was not a strong point when he was acquired and I think having him train with the Sedins was an attempt to show him what he should be doing.

Nice post. It seems that Kassian has all the tools to be a top player. Hopefully, the new coach brings that out of him.

 

[luongo321]

I'm just watching the first part of the press conference because I missed it live. Man, Kesler looks so damn serious. I wonder what he is thinking. It's too bad Bieksa isn't there. I'd love to see the look on his face.

 

[Hodgy]

Because every single article out there talks about how committed Kassian is to conditioning and fitness. Even in Buffalo, he worked with all sorts of specialists all summer to try and improve. This isn't a guy that has ever slacked off. The only evidence to the contrary is one poster's rampant speculation and him being sent down to the AHL for a game.

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

 

[mrmyheadhurts]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

Such as?

 

[Tanevian*]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

There are several crappy newspapers looking to hire! BTW, are your "multiple sources" the same as most peoples? You know, the media.

 

[Tanevian*]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case.

Is it multiple sources or both? Or just two? Suggest? At least your name explains this delightful tripe.

It isn't a secret that he needs to apply himself, like many young players.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

I don't get all the talk of how Kass is a good skater, he looks awkward and slow over short distances and never makes full contact on hits. He misses guys and doesn't adjust quickly.

He is average, at best, even for his size.

 

[Dado]

Why is Kassian's conditioning such a polarizing subject?

Because he too often looks like he is lagging out there.

 

[Tanevian*]

Because he too often looks like he is lagging out there.

I think the question is, "Why is it so polarizing?"

 

[StringerBell]

Torts on OTR!

 

[Alflives*]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

Hold on. Making comment on 'perceived' fitness (or lack there of) is one thing, but to suggest that Kassian has more serious 'off ice' issues like you state here is wrong. We know he went out for a drink or two, maybe even more times than his coaches liked, but there is nothing illegal about that.

 

[ddawg1950]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

Sources?

From a guy who has been relentlessly against the Hodgy-Kassian trade from the beginning, I would think that ths violates a coupe of HF rules...like slander and anonymously sourced stuff.

I think you'll have to back this up.

 

[Alflives*]

I don't get all the talk of how Kass is a good skater, he looks awkward and slow over short distances and never makes full contact on hits. He misses guys and doesn't adjust quickly.

He is average, at best, even for his size.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, as we all are here. However, I would be surprised if there is one expert on evaluating skating, who would characterize Kassian's skating 'awkward, slow, or average'. Most would argue he is the opposite. I do agree that (sometimes) his 'body checking' technique is not that of a 'heavy' player. IMHO that is a function of fatigue.

 

[vannuckles]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

The irony here is good stuff. First off, your name says it all, and maybe the little boy (AND family AND player agent) Kassian was traded for, had even more head issues than Zack. Oh and the charges were dropped, so a moot point there. Who says he was not simply defending himself? you have ZERO idea, of what went on for him to get into trouble fighting.

 

[Toxic0n]

Honestly I know it's not kosher to suggest people are trolling, but Alflives would be the perfect routine for someone who wanted to get a reaction out of people.

Roll around the board posting hilarious inaccuracies and downright falsehoods, then retreat behind "hey I'm just a fan asking question" when called on it.. amazing.

Is there another poster that is quoted more often these days?

Haha, I've noticed this a while ago but did not want to say anything. Seems like 80% of his posts end with seemingly "innocent" but loaded questions. I even suspected it was a fan of another team coming in here to incite a reaction.
Although, it seems like the last few posts actually have content and generated some discussion so I was probably being paranoid

On topic:
Can't wait for the Tortorella era to start. I liked AV a lot despite his flaws but watching the press conference was a breath of fresh air. October can't come soon enough!

 

[BB6]

Sources?

From a guy who has been relentlessly against the Hodgy-Kassian trade from the beginning, I would think that ths violates a coupe of HF rules...like slander and anonymously sourced stuff.

I think you'll have to back this up.

The charge? bar fight http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Police+charge+Kassian+after+altercation/3104416/story.html

Some guy mouths off, Kassian punches him in the mouth for being a ****** bag and like most punks, charges him.

People need to learn there are consequences for running your mouth, this is a problem with today's society though, bunch of gutless whiners.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

Kassian wouldn't be the first young kid to have issues in junior hockey and take a little longer to mature. That Kane kid for Chicago was also called a head case. I'm not saying that Kassian is in the same class but people need to cut him a little slack for stuff that happened back then. According to the Canuck coaches and the more senior players the kid is willing to learn and works hard.

 

[Hammer79]

Torts on OTR!

Torts - I met one of the Sedins, I didn't use his first name because I didn't know which one I was talking to.

 

[Tanevian*]

Kassian wouldn't be the first young kid to have issues in junior hockey and take a little longer to mature. That Kane kid for Chicago was also called a head case. I'm not saying that Kassian is in the same class but people need to cut him a little slack for stuff that happened back then. According to the Canuck coaches and the more senior players the kid is willing to learn and works hard.

The same should be said for most GUYS between the age of 18-23. I'd bet most of us could have been charged with something at some time.

 

[thepuckmonster]

I have heard from multiple sources that Kassian's commitment to the game is not where it needs to be. In fact, both sources suggest Kassian is a head case. Of course this isn't all that surprising given that he was charged with assault in Windsor. Sure, the charges were dropped, but you are clearly doing something wrong if you get charged in the first place. Unless you are so naive to think that it was just a mistake...

You know this is libelous if you can't verify with legit sources, right? Aka against the rules.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Torts - I met one of the Sedins, I didn't use his first name because I didn't know which one I was talking to.

You can see the meeting here: it's hilarious, he greets everyone by name except Henrik (I think it's Henrik) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_qYwA_Fx5k

 

[Nuckles]

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