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Its probably a gamble. If they win, thry get a free Suban. If they lose, they get “slightly” worse. The timming can’t be better. Its a small gamble.
Waived: Calvin Pickard placed on waivers by Vegas. (Cleared)
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UnleashRasmus
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Hmmm, this is a perplexing move. He's a solid back up. He has his shortcomings like any mid twenties goalie, but this should be a claim.
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And yet, Pickard finished with a .904 save percentage. And had a .922 save percentage the year before, whereas Varlamov had a .914. Pickard has outplayed Varlamov every year he's been in the league.
Just maybe playing for Colorado wasn't conductive to developing a goaltender that only had 36 career games before last season. Maybe playing in front of one of the worst teams in the history of the league (statistically speaking) made him look bad and effected his confidence and performance.
UnleashRasmus
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Subban has done nothing that proves he can handle even semi regular work in the NHL.
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Many people have a hard time understanding wtf GMGM is doing. Is the man a genious that is so far ahead or a complete blunding idiot?
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I don't get this move by Vegas. Subban is bad enough that he warranted them putting him on waivers over Khudobin, yet he is good enough to backup Fleury in Vegas, over Pickard, makes no sense. Haven't seen Subban's play, but everyone that has and talks about him, say his play has been underwhelming to say the least. Strange. Then again, Vegas could have actually had a decent team, but instead chose to pick crappy players instead.
How is not selecting Dumba versus what they got in return going to pay off? (They get Erik Haula and Alex Tuch, and they had to give up a 3rd rounder and not take Dumba)???
Could have taken Marc Methot, and didn't. (His trade value is certainly higher than anything they currently have on D)
Could have had DeHaan or Pulock, or Brock Nelson, and didn't. (Plus they have actually have to pay Grabovski to not play)(I know they got a 1st rounder, but it will be mid pack at best)
Could have taken Grubauer who looks pretty good from what I have seen. (Instead they now have Subban as backup)
I know there are a few more I am forgetting.
If they want to finish bad, fine, point is, most of the players they made trades to not take, would have gotten them more in trades at the deadline or earlier in my opinion, then the current roster can.
How is not selecting Dumba versus what they got in return going to pay off? (They get Erik Haula and Alex Tuch, and they had to give up a 3rd rounder and not take Dumba)???
Could have taken Marc Methot, and didn't. (His trade value is certainly higher than anything they currently have on D)
Could have had DeHaan or Pulock, or Brock Nelson, and didn't. (Plus they have actually have to pay Grabovski to not play)(I know they got a 1st rounder, but it will be mid pack at best)
Could have taken Grubauer who looks pretty good from what I have seen. (Instead they now have Subban as backup)
I know there are a few more I am forgetting.
If they want to finish bad, fine, point is, most of the players they made trades to not take, would have gotten them more in trades at the deadline or earlier in my opinion, then the current roster can.
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I'd love the Flames to waive/demote Freddie Hamilton and claim him. I'd much rather Pickard over Lack
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Okay, the Ducks claim him. Then when Miller comes back from injury, the Ducks put him back on waivers and Vegas claims him back. In the meantime, McPhee makes a move or two to shuffle up the roster, injuries occur, and Pickard goes straight to the AHL (unless another team puts in a claim).
We see this every year, when a "name" player goes on waivers and everyone assumes he'll get claimed. I know there's a chance it could happen, but I'm not going to pretend to be surprised if/when he clears tomorrow. Too many teams already have their tandems set, unless an injury occurs tonight or - like you said - if the Ducks decide to claim him to ease the burden on Gibson while Miller is out. But then the Ducks have three more goalies under contract AFTER Berra, that I'm not even sure if they'll put in a claim.
KarmaPolice
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I think I'd rather have Pickard over Brossoit on the Oilers. But I think it would be smart for a couple other teams ahead of us on the waiver wire order to pick him up, so doubt he gets to us. I think he's much more proven than Brossoit, and after Talbot we have no NHL goalie with any real NHL experience. Pickard would bring that. Brossoit probably also clears.
Leafs will get Pickard cause their backup stinks
I’d take him as a ranger fan but doubt they do that to Pavelec
I’d take him as a ranger fan but doubt they do that to Pavelec
MaritimeHockeyNut
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wow. subban over pickard? I think they are clearly going on potential here and not on actual skill. Interesting move by Vagas. Pickard gets claimed here for sure. hes better then 5+ teams backup right now including bostons.
It's not like Vegas needs to win now anyways. They are clearly tanking hard for Dahlin/Svechnikov.
BlueBaron
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I'm pretttttty sure Vegas doesn't want to put a team out there that's to be as bad as possible. An untested market with the goal of being the worst team in the league is a marketing nightmare, one that they may never pull out of once the NFL shows up.
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ROFL, I love how people think the team with the least talent in the NHL needs to dump a back up goalie to ensure being bad.
What's wrong with that scenario? It gives Anaheim a reliable back-up for zero assets until Miller is healthy, with a guarantee he'll be claimed when he's put back on waivers (given he doesn't stink it up). At worst, his contract ends at the end of the year. I'm not quite sure why the other goalie contracts have any bearing on claiming Pickard for the Ducks, as Berra would still be starting in the AHL if Miller was healthy.
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I really don't understand a lot of the stuff McPhee has done. It started with his moves leading up to, and including, the expansion draft, and has continued up until now.
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I can sort of see what McPhee is trying to do there. It's the right time of year to slip a backup goaltender through waivers, if ever there is one.
But it seems like a complete fools errand and an unnecessary risk on account of Malcolm Subban having shown absolutely nothing that indicates he's an NHL calibre goaltender right now, on track to becoming a quality NHL starting goaltender any time soon. And especially not if he's expected to "develop" in the NHL, behind an AHL team that is going to get its doors blown off regularly.
There's just no upside to it. It's like some twisted pedantic version of "asset management" trying to hoard all 3 goalies, without being able to send the worst of them to the AHL.
I'd wager there's a decent chance Pickard actually does clear waivers. He's really nothing special. But it's a bizarre risk to take with a guy that McPhee seemed pretty high on previously and is at very least, a capable NHL backup with a bit of upside.
But it seems like a complete fools errand and an unnecessary risk on account of Malcolm Subban having shown absolutely nothing that indicates he's an NHL calibre goaltender right now, on track to becoming a quality NHL starting goaltender any time soon. And especially not if he's expected to "develop" in the NHL, behind an AHL team that is going to get its doors blown off regularly.
There's just no upside to it. It's like some twisted pedantic version of "asset management" trying to hoard all 3 goalies, without being able to send the worst of them to the AHL.
I'd wager there's a decent chance Pickard actually does clear waivers. He's really nothing special. But it's a bizarre risk to take with a guy that McPhee seemed pretty high on previously and is at very least, a capable NHL backup with a bit of upside.
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NHL Waivers aren't like fantasy hockey. Waiver priority is based on standings. It doesn't rotate based on who claimed a guy last or anything.
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